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When devs have nothing to say they just post inane things to show the studio is "alive". Nothing about possible "secret" IPs, DA4, maybe ME reboot(s).... repeating their pre-Anthem launch teaser tweets.
They can't come out and say X game exists primarily because they're a publicly traded company, and making comments about a game - that hasn't yet been disclosed to investors - would likely cause big problems for BioWare. As for DA4, new IP's, or a ME reboot, they probably in the prototyping (or pre-production stage - with DA4) phase right now, so they likely can't say much more than we already know (technically, we already know another ME game is in the works). I get you're frustrated with the company, as I'm sure a number of people are, but I'm not gonna begrudge them for posting light-hearted posts on Twitter. If anything, they probably need to lay low for right now considering their reputation isn't exactly in good standing right now.
Post by dadithinkimgay on Sept 24, 2019 22:24:51 GMT
Well, the song is about Grey Wardens- and Hawke, if alive, did go to Weisshaupt after the end game. Given that the other #BardSongs at least have an image/video that relates to the subject of the song, it is... curiously particular.
Hawke has had dealings with the Grey Wardens since DA2, and based off the epilogue slide I mentioned above, is still having dealings with them going into DA4. I wonder why?
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Well, the song is about Grey Wardens- and Hawke, if alive, did go to Weisshaupt after the end game. Given that the other #BardSongs at least have an image/video that relates to the subject of the song, it is... curiously particular.
Hawke has had dealings with the Grey Wardens since DA2, and based off the epilogue slide I mentioned above, is still having dealings with them going into DA4. I wonder why?
Doesn’t Varric’s Trespasser slide indicate Hawke returned to Kirkwall (if alive)?
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When devs have nothing to say they just post inane things to show the studio is "alive". Nothing about possible "secret" IPs, DA4, maybe ME reboot(s).... repeating their pre-Anthem launch teaser tweets.
They can't come out and say X game exists primarily because they're a publicly traded company, and making comments about a game - that hasn't yet been disclosed to investors - would likely cause big problems for BioWare. As for DA4, new IP's, or a ME reboot, they probably in the prototyping (or pre-production stage - with DA4) phase right now, so they likely can't say much more than we already know (technically, we already know another ME game is in the works). I get you're frustrated with the company, as I'm sure a number of people are, but I'm not gonna begrudge them for posting light-hearted posts on Twitter. If anything, they probably need to lay low for right now considering their reputation isn't exactly in good standing right now.
Hm...
Given the quality of the last game... you have a point. Given what mgt said about Anthem vs what was delivered... I'll wait until the game is actually out. Cinematics trailers/teaser are so BS.
You know, Cyberpunk 2077 has a good chance to set a new standard for aRPG games. DA4, when it comes out will be measured against it. With Bio's record, that will be tough. and the game may suffer from it.
Unless DA4 is not the aRPG we all wish for.
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Post by AlleluiaElizabeth on Sept 24, 2019 23:37:09 GMT
You know, we know virtually nothing about the founding of the Grey Wardens. What if they, as an order, are a long game by one of the Evanuris/Evanuris' followers? Basically the "The archdemons are the seals that keep the Evanuris imprisoned." theory, but with the Grey Wardens actually having been purposefully set up to deal with Blights this way, instead of their blind stumbling just happening to play in to the Evanuris' hands.
Well, the song is about Grey Wardens- and Hawke, if alive, did go to Weisshaupt after the end game. Given that the other #BardSongs at least have an image/video that relates to the subject of the song, it is... curiously particular.
Hawke has had dealings with the Grey Wardens since DA2, and based off the epilogue slide I mentioned above, is still having dealings with them going into DA4. I wonder why?
Doesn’t Varric’s Trespasser slide indicate Hawke returned to Kirkwall (if alive)?
Yes. They cut/didn't bother with telling us what happened. it's still a mystery, I don't care if Hawke/Warden isn't in it, I just want to know what happened
You know, we know virtually nothing about the founding of the Grey Wardens. What if they, as an order, are a long game by one of the Evanuris/Evanuris' followers? Basically the "The archdemons are the seals that keep the Evanuris imprisoned." theory, but with the Grey Wardens actually having been purposefully set up to deal with Blights this way, instead of their blind stumbling just happening to play in to the Evanuris' hands.
Well, it's not like they didn't already prove that they are susceptible to external influences, be it from Taint itself or playing on their fears/emotions and sense of duty...
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You know, we know virtually nothing about the founding of the Grey Wardens. What if they, as an order, are a long game by one of the Evanuris/Evanuris' followers? Basically the "The archdemons are the seals that keep the Evanuris imprisoned." theory, but with the Grey Wardens actually having been purposefully set up to deal with Blights this way, instead of their blind stumbling just happening to play in to the Evanuris' hands.
Well, it's not like they didn't already prove that they are susceptible to external influences, be it from Taint itself or playing on their fears/emotions and sense of duty...
I'm just wondering who was the crazy one willing to say, "F**k it. I'm just gonna guzzle some Darkspawn blood and see what happens."
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Well, it's not like they didn't already prove that they are susceptible to external influences, be it from Taint itself or playing on their fears/emotions and sense of duty...
I'm just wondering who was the crazy one willing to say, "F**k it. I'm just gonna guzzle some Darkspawn blood and see what happens."
To provide a serious reply, I’m guessing a blood mage caged some ghouls for study and noticed they could sense other darkspawn, and so proceeded to try and develop a way to get the benefits without the debilitating effects.
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I'm just wondering who was the crazy one willing to say, "F**k it. I'm just gonna guzzle some Darkspawn blood and see what happens."
To provide a serious reply, I’m guessing a blood mage caged some ghouls for study and noticed they could sense other darkspawn, and so proceeded to try and develop a way to get the benefits without the debilitating effects.
The wiki touches on this a little bit, but we don't have definitive answer...
The Joining ritual was created in the early days of the Order, during the First Blight. It is unknown exactly how the Grey Wardens developed this ritual, although many theories exist.[2] According to most records, Nakiri of The Donarks was the one who first suggested imbibing the blood of the darkspawn, as his people were known to consume the blood of their enemies to absorb their power. The first Grey Wardens consulted many Tevinter mages, who confirmed that there was power in blood, as blood magic was a common practice in the Imperium at the time. It is also said that elven slaves also contributed ancient knowledge from Arlathan. This was in return for being treated as equals in the order and with the intention that, after the Blight was ended, they would concentrate on freeing the elves.[3]
Well, it's not like they didn't already prove that they are susceptible to external influences, be it from Taint itself or playing on their fears/emotions and sense of duty...
I'm just wondering who was the crazy one willing to say, "F**k it. I'm just gonna guzzle some Darkspawn blood and see what happens."
Eh, considering that the First Blight seemed like a fight with no end, one could see how some people would grow desperate enough to try virtually anything. I guess it could be compared to Solas's Veil, if it indeed turned out to be the last resort in a hopeless fight against stronger opponent/potential end of the world. So I can't blame people for that.
What I'm more curious about is why it seems that - after centuries - the Wardens don't appear to know that much about Blight or even the nature of the Joining? At the very least the lower rank don't give much of an impression that they know more than uninitiated Blackwall, or what we've learned as unguided, rookie Wardens in DAO.
I guess it could be argued that Wardens don't live long enough and their ranks aren't that numerous (during times when they can focus on more than hacking away at darkspawn) for those who could conduct in-depth research to learn that much about the Blight and related matters. But given their treatment of Corypheus something tells me is that - like many other organizations - they have a tendency for keeping secrets or sweeping more problematic things under the rug and pretending they aren't there.
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Doesn’t Varric’s Trespasser slide indicate Hawke returned to Kirkwall (if alive)?
Yes. They cut/didn't bother with telling us what happened. it's still a mystery, I don't care if Hawke/Warden isn't in it, I just want to know what happened
I'm guessing it had something with the internal strife we hear about in the game over the future of the Order. And that happens regardless of how you deal with the Wardens in the south.
It sounds like they're trying to give themselves as much room to shift the narrative around on that as possible.
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That is possibly one of the coolest podiums I've ever seen.
I always assumed that the first ones to try the joining were also probably people who were tainted already, so what was a bit more gonna do? How they figured out that it required a bit of Archdemon blood to work, I have no idea. I sincerely doubt that was managed on a first try. If it was, then I definitely call shenanigans.
And why even does archdemon blood make it work, anyway? Darkspawn don't need the Archdemon's blood to tap into the hivemind. Maybe its b/c pure blight kills too quickly, ala Daveth? And the archdemon blood boosts certain people's immune systems, protecting against the blight's effects spreading too quickly? Maybe its the physicality of the dragon that does that? Since dragons' bodies naturally work to seal the blight away into cysts when they encounter it in the wild.
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That is possibly one of the coolest podiums I've ever seen.
I always assumed that the first ones to try the joining were also probably people who were tainted already, so what was a bit more gonna do? How they figured out that it required a bit of Archdemon blood to work, I have no idea. I sincerely doubt that was managed on a first try. If it was, then I definitely call shenanigans.
And why even does archdemon blood make it work, anyway? Darkspawn don't need the Archdemon's blood to tap into the hivemind. Maybe its b/c pure blight kills too quickly, ala Davath? And the archdemon blood boosts certain people's immune systems, protecting against the blight's effects spreading too quickly? Maybe its the physicality of the dragon that does that? Since dragons' bodies naturally work to seal the blight away into cysts when they encounter it in the wild.
This is pure speculation based on the most tenuous 'evidence' from games and books as well as real-world science about pregnancy, but I've never actually been satisfied by the idea from David Gaider's The Calling that the amulets that protect the Grey Wardens from being sensed by the darkspawn are what led to Fiona being cured of the taint. After all, several other Grey Wardens, including Duncan, also wore those amulets and were not, to our knowledge, cured of the taint. I think that what cured Fiona was actually the blood of Calenhad that ran in Maric and therefore in Alistair. The real world science about pregnancy is that cells from developing fetuses do cross through the placenta and the umbilical cord and have been found in the birth mothers' tissues.
My speculation is that the Qunari story of Calenhad is not wrong, in that he drank a dying dragon's blood that conferred great power on him. The Qunari hold that the strength Calenhad gained from that dragon's blood was passed down to his descendants. And due to fetal cells passing to the mother, Fiona got some of the Calenhad blood and that's what cured her. This means also that it's possible that Alistair may in fact be cured of the taint himself someday. (But, as Warden Alistair does hear the false Calling in DAI, this remains to be seen, of course.)
Anyway, like I said, it's very flimsy (one gaping hole in the speculation is that Alistair clearly IS a Grey Warden since he senses darkspawn, has the bad dreams, etc. like our HoFs - if Calenhad's dragon blood confers immunity to darkspawn taint, then how did Alistair become a Grey Warden in the first place?) but it would tie in nicely to your idea that the Archdemon's blood is the ingredient that keeps Grey Wardens from simply becoming ghouls like other living beings who have been exposed to darkspawn blood. Dragons are magic, y'all. And so is blood, as we're often reminded in Dragon Age games and books.
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Anyway, like I said, it's very flimsy (one gaping hole in the speculation is that Alistair clearly IS a Grey Warden since he senses darkspawn, has the bad dreams, etc. like our HoFs - if Calenhad's dragon blood confers immunity to darkspawn taint, then how did Alistair become a Grey Warden in the first place?) but it would tie in nicely to your idea that the Archdemon's blood is the ingredient that keeps Grey Wardens from simply becoming ghouls like other living beings who have been exposed to darkspawn blood.
A further theory: what saved Fiona wasn't just carrying Alistair, but that in combination with some other quality she possesses and he doesn't. She's a woman, an elf and a mage, so I'd start with one or more of those. Were it even possible to experiment which, alas, it isn't. There aren't any untainted Theirin heirs that we know of, and Alistair being a Warden might skew the results. (Assuming you could get him to impregnate female elf mage Grey Wardens for science in the first place. Although he agrees to the Dark Ritual if the Warden talks him into it, so maybe?)