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Honestly, at this point, I don't even need any story details. I would be thrilled with even an estimated release date. "We're aiming for a 2057 release, stay tuned!"

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Schmooples' Den! The DA News Discussion Thread Oct 17, 2019 19:02:25 GMT PCthug, roselavellan, and 5 more like this

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Post by midnight tea on Oct 17, 2019 19:02:25 GMT

Oct 17, 2019 16:44:51 GMT Hanako Ikezawa said:

Oct 17, 2019 1:46:02 GMT colfoley said:

Sure that would be my preference too, but I just don't think its practicable given how hostile the general gamers (or at least a vocal minority) is getting when it comes to these games and publishers. Virtually everything that publishers do causes some manner of controversy...so while I understand that games these days are constantly evolving and adding new content all the way up to (and even after) launch...most people don't seem to. And this is in addition to the doezens of controversies that gamers tend to pitch a fit over.

So because of a vocal minority who are going to hate anyway, everyone else gets punished? As I’ve said with other things, developers need to just ignore those kinds of people and focus on the fans and those who are potential fans.

The problem is that we've seen many outlets pick up what vocal minority has to say and make things a bigger deal than they actually are, or present a skewed picture that is then fed to the wider public.

I suppose having something like a dev diary could cut some of the wild speculations and rumors, however we saw time and time again (for BW games or else) how showing even a tiny sliver of a legit thing can be blown out of proportion or made into an expectation from the final product, regardless whether there were blinking red letters informing everyone "this is work-in-progress! Things might look different!" on top of what we're shown.

I personally don't have an answer to that conundrum - I'd love to know more, especially given all the years we've already waited for the next game, but I'm unsure what could be done or revealed, especially at this point in time. Right now, I guess the major source for figuring out where things are going story-wise (aside from stuff like teaser or half-official twitter chatter) is observing what is being published in auxillary materials, because these are largely things that are supposed to be bridges between past and future games.

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Schmooples' Den! The DA News Discussion Thread Oct 17, 2019 19:02:34 GMT Solas, AlleluiaElizabeth, and 1 more like this

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Post by OhDaniGirl on Oct 17, 2019 19:02:34 GMT

Oct 17, 2019 19:00:34 GMT AlleluiaElizabeth said:

Honestly, at this point, I don't even need any story details. I would be thrilled with even an estimated release date. "We're aiming for a 2057 release, stay tuned!"

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Lol, omg, "Xbox Blurple"...

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Schmooples' Den! The DA News Discussion Thread Oct 17, 2019 19:54:33 GMT via mobile AlleluiaElizabeth, OhDaniGirl, and 1 more like this

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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Oct 17, 2019 19:54:33 GMT

Honestly, at this point, I don't even need any story details. I would be thrilled with even an estimated release date. "We're aiming for a 2057 release, stay tuned!"

I just need to know the protagonist really.
If the Inquisitor, then I can wait for more info even though I’d prefer how they used to do things.
If not the Inquisitor, well then I know to stop wasting my time waiting for it and move on.

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Schmooples' Den! The DA News Discussion Thread Oct 17, 2019 21:57:12 GMT Hrungr, Rascoth, and 3 more like this

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Post by mfr001 on Oct 17, 2019 21:57:12 GMT

Oct 17, 2019 18:34:34 GMT Rascoth said:

Oct 17, 2019 18:12:56 GMT AlleluiaElizabeth said:

I think the real problem with the lack of DA4 news isn't so much that they're possibly not gonna give any till the game is 6 months out. Its that it's been 84 years since the last game.

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Schmooples' Den! The DA News Discussion Thread Oct 18, 2019 2:49:23 GMT via Tapatalk FireAndBlood, Solas, and 21 more like this

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Post by Avejajed on Oct 18, 2019 2:49:23 GMT

To put it into perspective I’ve created three tiny humans since Inquisition came out. THREE.

I created THREE ACTUAL HUMAN BEINGS OUT OF MY OWN FLESH and I’m still waiting on DA4.

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Schmooples' Den! The DA News Discussion Thread Oct 18, 2019 3:11:54 GMT

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Post by Sartoz on Oct 18, 2019 3:11:54 GMT

Oct 17, 2019 19:54:33 GMT Hanako Ikezawa said:

Honestly, at this point, I don't even need any story details. I would be thrilled with even an estimated release date. "We're aiming for a 2057 release, stay tuned!"

I just need to know the protagonist really.
If the Inquisitor, then I can wait for more info even though I’d prefer how they used to do things.
If not the Inquisitor, well then I know to stop wasting my time waiting for it and move on.

Hm...

I'm thinking DA4 will have a solo campaign and everything else is MP. As to the Inquisitor... personally I really doubt it. Bio would be hiring the same voice actors (if available) m/f, English and Brit, if memory serves.

Bio now has hard experience with Anthem and how brutally players chew up content. EA+Bio better rethink the frequency and quality of new content, creation of new vanity items, load screens, loot, grind and game progression.

Maybe it's best they say nothing until the above core design issues are ironed out properly.

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Schmooples' Den! The DA News Discussion Thread Oct 18, 2019 3:15:41 GMT

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Post by Sartoz on Oct 18, 2019 3:15:41 GMT

To put it into perspective I’ve created three tiny humans since Inquisition came out. THREE.

I created THREE ACTUAL HUMAN BEINGS OUT OF MY OWN FLESH and I’m still waiting on DA4.

Don't be surprised if you get creative again. :whistle:

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Schmooples' Den! The DA News Discussion Thread Oct 18, 2019 3:43:55 GMT

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Post by Sartoz on Oct 18, 2019 3:43:55 GMT

Oct 17, 2019 1:46:02 GMT colfoley said:

Oct 17, 2019 0:39:49 GMT Hanako Ikezawa said:

I don’t. I like following with them along the journey of development like they used to. For example with BioWare I liked DAIs marketing a lot more than MEAs.

Sure that would be my preference too, but I just don't think its practicable given how hostile the general gamers (or at least a vocal minority) is getting when it comes to these games and publishers. Virtually everything that publishers do causes some manner of controversy...so while I understand that games these days are constantly evolving and adding new content all the way up to (and even after) launch...most people don't seem to. And this is in addition to the doezens of controversies that gamers tend to pitch a fit over.

Ah.. the never ending good deeds from pubs and dev studios that never go unpunished. Gamers are totally ungrateful.

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Schmooples' Den! The DA News Discussion Thread Oct 18, 2019 3:58:04 GMT via mobile

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Post by colfoley on Oct 18, 2019 3:58:04 GMT

Oct 18, 2019 3:43:55 GMT Sartoz said:

Oct 17, 2019 1:46:02 GMT colfoley said:

Sure that would be my preference too, but I just don't think its practicable given how hostile the general gamers (or at least a vocal minority) is getting when it comes to these games and publishers. Virtually everything that publishers do causes some manner of controversy...so while I understand that games these days are constantly evolving and adding new content all the way up to (and even after) launch...most people don't seem to. And this is in addition to the doezens of controversies that gamers tend to pitch a fit over.

Ah.. the never ending good deeds from pubs and dev studios that never go unpunished. Gamers are totally ungrateful.

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Schmooples' Den! The DA News Discussion Thread Oct 18, 2019 4:32:31 GMT

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Post by AlleluiaElizabeth on Oct 18, 2019 4:32:31 GMT

To put it into perspective I’ve created three tiny humans since Inquisition came out. THREE.

I created THREE ACTUAL HUMAN BEINGS OUT OF MY OWN FLESH and I’m still waiting on DA4.

Upside, it'll come out just when they're ready for school at this rate. I dunno your setup, but that might give you some free time to play?

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Post by Avejajed on Oct 18, 2019 4:40:10 GMT

Oct 18, 2019 4:32:31 GMT AlleluiaElizabeth said:

To put it into perspective I’ve created three tiny humans since Inquisition came out. THREE.

I created THREE ACTUAL HUMAN BEINGS OUT OF MY OWN FLESH and I’m still waiting on DA4.

Upside, it'll come out just when they're ready for school at this rate. I dunno your setup, but that might give you some free time to play?

Oooh true. And actually they probably will be just going into school when da4 comes out. I definitely don’t get much playing done of anything now (or sleeping, or eating hot food, or basically anything I ever enjoyed before 😂), so it’s probably good I haven’t had a new dragon age game I only get to play the three minutes I have to myself between their bedtime and when I inevitably pass out.

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Schmooples' Den! The DA News Discussion Thread Oct 18, 2019 12:08:38 GMT

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Post by SirSourpuss on Oct 18, 2019 12:08:38 GMT

The problem is that we've seen many outlets pick up what vocal minority has to say and make things a bigger deal than they actually are, or present a skewed picture that is then fed to the wider public.

First of all, you have no way of quantifying that. Secondly, a vocal minority of a silent majority that is dissatisfied by your games is just as valid a base as any other. Thirdly, why are you blaming people for not liking what you like? And lastly, if your supposed vast majority is so correct, why are Bioware games getting abandoned even by the people that bought them?

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Post by doggiesnores on Oct 18, 2019 15:36:33 GMT

To put it into perspective I’ve created three tiny humans since Inquisition came out. THREE.

I created THREE ACTUAL HUMAN BEINGS OUT OF MY OWN FLESH and I’m still waiting on DA4.

I made one, too! Might can squeeze in another before DA4 comes out at this rate.
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Schmooples' Den! The DA News Discussion Thread Oct 18, 2019 16:30:59 GMT Hanako Ikezawa, smilesja, and 6 more like this

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Post by midnight tea on Oct 18, 2019 16:30:59 GMT

Oct 18, 2019 12:08:38 GMT SirSourpuss said:

The problem is that we've seen many outlets pick up what vocal minority has to say and make things a bigger deal than they actually are, or present a skewed picture that is then fed to the wider public.

First of all, you have no way of quantifying that. Secondly, a vocal minority of a silent majority that is dissatisfied by your games is just as valid a base as any other. Thirdly, why are you blaming people for not liking what you like? And lastly, if your supposed vast majority is so correct, why are Bioware games getting abandoned even by the people that bought them?

First of all - you're accusing me of making assumptions while making many assumptions about me or my opinion, apparently without bothering to look at the rest of my comment or what I've responded to... that ain't the best look, mate.

Second - this is a general issue for games (something I've pointed out in previous comment) and beyond, even if some companies (like BW) are more scrutinized than others and have been for years. Like... you realize that both the person I replied to and person before talked about more than just Bioware? The funniest thing is that I wasn't just talking about 'negative' vocal minorities, lol.

Third - I wasn't talking in context of supposed "dissatisfaction with BW" :huh:

Like... is it that hard to read just one full comment? Or are you THAT dedicated in trying to find ANYTHING to skew the discussion into yet another Bioware bash-fest?

Like, seriously: the fact that you're trying to make this about supposed dissatisfaction or abandonment of Bioware speaks way more of your own bias towards BW than it does about me or 'blaming people for not liking what I like'.

Go back to actual discussion - what could be a satisfactory roll-out of information about upcoming title in an online environment we have today? - or expect to be ignored.

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Schmooples' Den! The DA News Discussion Thread Oct 18, 2019 16:47:49 GMT

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Post by SirSourpuss on Oct 18, 2019 16:47:49 GMT

First of all - you're accusing me of making assumptions while making many silly assumptions about me or my opinion, apparently without bothering to look at the rest of my comment or what I've responded to... that ain't the best look, mate.

I don't care about the rest of your comment, mate. This is the part that rubbed me in a wrong way.

Second - this is a general issue for games (something I've pointed out in previous comment) and beyond, even if some companies (like BW) are more scrutinized than others and have been for years. Like... you realize that both the person I replied to and person before talked about more than just Bioware? The funniest thing is that I wasn't even talking about 'negative' vocal minorities, lol.

The second point isn't about Bioware, though. It is a general observation.

Third - I wasn't talking in context of supposed "dissatisfaction with BW" :huh:

Like... is it that hard to read just one full comment?

Yes, it is. Nobody owes you the time for it. For example, you didn't own me a rebuttal, but you gave one, nonetheless.

Or are you THAT dedicated in trying to find ANYTHING to try and skew the discussion to yet another Bioware bash-fest?

Still not about Bioware.

Like, seriously: the fact that you're trying to make this about supposed dissatisfaction or abandonment of Bioware speaks way more of your own bias towards BW than it does about me or 'blaming people for not liking what I like'.

Which brings us to the last point, which is about Bioware, yet it is a simple example, relative to the company whose unofficial forum we currently inhabit and its latest game suffers from abandonment. You are the one that made the almost entire comment "anti-Bioware bias", while completely rejecting it as an example.

Go back to actual discussion - what could be a satisfactory roll-out of information about upcoming title? - or expect to be ignored.

I would be satisfied with just knowing when they are getting out of pre-production. Getting stuck in it till way inti 2021 will be yet another example of a mismanaged game. If it gets out of pre-production today, they might be able to hit a holiday 2022 release, though I would rather have them work on it till holiday 2023, for much needed polish and meaningful side content. Again, provided they left pre-production today. They need to REALLY hit this one out of the park.

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Schmooples' Den! The DA News Discussion Thread Oct 18, 2019 18:59:31 GMT via mobile midnight tea, Heimdall, and 6 more like this

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Post by colfoley on Oct 18, 2019 18:59:31 GMT

Oct 18, 2019 16:47:49 GMT SirSourpuss said:

First of all - you're accusing me of making assumptions while making many silly assumptions about me or my opinion, apparently without bothering to look at the rest of my comment or what I've responded to... that ain't the best look, mate.

I don't care about the rest of your comment, mate. This is the part that rubbed me in a wrong way.

Second - this is a general issue for games (something I've pointed out in previous comment) and beyond, even if some companies (like BW) are more scrutinized than others and have been for years. Like... you realize that both the person I replied to and person before talked about more than just Bioware? The funniest thing is that I wasn't even talking about 'negative' vocal minorities, lol.

The second point isn't about Bioware, though. It is a general observation.

Third - I wasn't talking in context of supposed "dissatisfaction with BW" :huh:

Like... is it that hard to read just one full comment?

Yes, it is. Nobody owes you the time for it. For example, you didn't own me a rebuttal, but you gave one, nonetheless.

Or are you THAT dedicated in trying to find ANYTHING to try and skew the discussion to yet another Bioware bash-fest?

Still not about Bioware.

Like, seriously: the fact that you're trying to make this about supposed dissatisfaction or abandonment of Bioware speaks way more of your own bias towards BW than it does about me or 'blaming people for not liking what I like'.

Which brings us to the last point, which is about Bioware, yet it is a simple example, relative to the company whose unofficial forum we currently inhabit and its latest game suffers from abandonment. You are the one that made the almost entire comment "anti-Bioware bias", while completely rejecting it as an example.