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Post by colfoley on Dec 9, 2019 1:06:13 GMT
We shouldn't really see anything until six months before release anyways. Last years GA trailer was horribly mistimed, if we see anything at this GA I will be (pleasently) surprised. I dunno if “horribly mistimed” is accurate. Though i suppose that is dependent on the release date and really will be something hindsight decides. Well the way things should've gone since they released a trailer last December for the game we should've had it in June. Honestly if the game is out in 2022 then we shouldn't hear anything at this year's VGA, at the absolute earliest the first we should've heard about this game would be next years VGA but probably even more preferably the year after that.
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Post by midnight tea on Dec 9, 2019 2:10:51 GMT
I dunno if “horribly mistimed” is accurate. Though i suppose that is dependent on the release date and really will be something hindsight decides. Well the way things should've gone since they released a trailer last December for the game we should've had it in June. Honestly if the game is out in 2022 then we shouldn't hear anything at this year's VGA, at the absolute earliest the first we should've heard about this game would be next years VGA but probably even more preferably the year after that. ....I can't imagine the amount od speculation, especially of bad faith kind, if the trailer didn't happen tho.
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Post by colfoley on Dec 9, 2019 2:13:32 GMT
Well the way things should've gone since they released a trailer last December for the game we should've had it in June. Honestly if the game is out in 2022 then we shouldn't hear anything at this year's VGA, at the absolute earliest the first we should've heard about this game would be next years VGA but probably even more preferably the year after that. ....I can't imagine the amount od speculation, especially of bad faith kind, if the trailer didn't happen tho. that is the other side of the argument... Though it's hardly stopped the negative speculation.
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Post by Hrungr on Dec 9, 2019 3:32:28 GMT
I dunno if “horribly mistimed” is accurate. Though i suppose that is dependent on the release date and really will be something hindsight decides. Well the way things should've gone since they released a trailer last December for the game we should've had it in June. Honestly if the game is out in 2022 then we shouldn't hear anything at this year's VGA, at the absolute earliest the first we should've heard about this game would be next years VGA but probably even more preferably the year after that. This. They're still in pre-production, so what could they even show outside another vague teaser like last time? And while those teasers are kinda neat, it doesn't alter the fact THE GAME IS STILL 3 YEARS AWAY! Who knows how much will change between pre-prod and the final game...
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 9, 2019 3:52:34 GMT
Well the way things should've gone since they released a trailer last December for the game we should've had it in June. Honestly if the game is out in 2022 then we shouldn't hear anything at this year's VGA, at the absolute earliest the first we should've heard about this game would be next years VGA but probably even more preferably the year after that. This. They're still in pre-production, so what could they even show outside another vague teaser like last time? And while those teasers are kinda neat, it doesn't alter the fact THE GAME IS STILL 3 YEARS AWAY! Who knows how much will change between pre-prod and the final game... They can give some basic information, since they should at the very least have that down by this point.
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Post by Hrungr on Dec 9, 2019 4:15:40 GMT
This. They're still in pre-production, so what could they even show outside another vague teaser like last time? And while those teasers are kinda neat, it doesn't alter the fact THE GAME IS STILL 3 YEARS AWAY! Who knows how much will change between pre-prod and the final game... They can give some basic information, since they should at the very least have that down by this point. Any info they could hand out would only waken the fandom to pester the devs for even more info and endless "clarifications". And they would have to hope what info they did give out... didn't change by the final game. Even "basic" information like "Will there be multiple races for the PC?" changed late in production on DA:I.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 9, 2019 4:20:10 GMT
They can give some basic information, since they should at the very least have that down by this point. Any info they could hand out would only waken the fandom to pester the devs for even more info and endless "clarifications". And they would have to hope what info they did give out... didn't change by the final game. Even "basic" information like "Will there be multiple races for the PC?" changed late in production on DA:I. If they didn't want that, then they shouldn't have released the teaser last year or post constant tweets teasing about the game. Follow the release with "Items are subject to change" or something then.
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Post by Hrungr on Dec 9, 2019 4:43:52 GMT
Any info they could hand out would only waken the fandom to pester the devs for even more info and endless "clarifications". And they would have to hope what info they did give out... didn't change by the final game. Even "basic" information like "Will there be multiple races for the PC?" changed late in production on DA:I. If they didn't want that, then they shouldn't have released the teaser last year or post constant tweets teasing about the game. Follow the release with "Items are subject to change" or something then. I think last year's teaser was to counter the doom 'n gloom talk that was running pretty rampant at the time. Let people know they're still making RPGs. But as I've always said, the fandom is like a sleeping beast. Once you rouse it, it wants to be fed - constantly. And can get ornery if it's left to go hungry again. Best just let it sleep. And disclaimers like "pre-alpha", "subject to change" never quite work in reality. If you say it/show it, fans are going to hold you to it. Gaming sites have a field day with this. Tweets are... I guess a love/hate thing? People will either find them amusing or just find the endless teasing annoying. But they don't give out details, at least nothing people could hold them to.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 9, 2019 4:49:24 GMT
If they didn't want that, then they shouldn't have released the teaser last year or post constant tweets teasing about the game. Follow the release with "Items are subject to change" or something then. I think last year's teaser was to counter the doom 'n gloom talk that was running pretty rampant at the time. Let people know they're still making RPGs. But as I've always said, the fandom is like a sleeping beast. Once you rouse it, it wants to be fed - constantly. And can get ornery if it's left to go hungry again. Best just let it sleep. And disclaimers like "pre-alpha", "subject to change" never quite work in reality. If you say it/show it, fans are going to hold you to it. Gaming sites have a field day with this. Tweets are... I guess a love/hate thing? People will either find them amusing or just find the endless teasing annoying. But they don't give out details, at least nothing people could hold them to. They could have done that without the trailer. Again, if they didn’t want to stir the pot then they should have kept that locked up. It’s not like the trailer showed that it was going to be a RPG anyway. If they have nothing they can actually talk about, it’s just a jerky thing to do to constantly go “Oh this is cool. Bet you wish you could see this.”
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Post by Hrungr on Dec 9, 2019 5:01:34 GMT
I think last year's teaser was to counter the doom 'n gloom talk that was running pretty rampant at the time. Let people know they're still making RPGs. But as I've always said, the fandom is like a sleeping beast. Once you rouse it, it wants to be fed - constantly. And can get ornery if it's left to go hungry again. Best just let it sleep. And disclaimers like "pre-alpha", "subject to change" never quite work in reality. If you say it/show it, fans are going to hold you to it. Gaming sites have a field day with this. Tweets are... I guess a love/hate thing? People will either find them amusing or just find the endless teasing annoying. But they don't give out details, at least nothing people could hold them to. They could have done that without the trailer. Again, if they didn’t want to stir the pot then they should have kept that locked up. It’s not like the trailer showed that it was going to be a RPG anyway. If they have nothing they can actually talk about, it’s just a jerky thing to do to constantly go “Oh this is cool. Bet you wish you could see this.” I wonder if they were inspired by Bethesda's E3 presentation... Hey, if they can tease ES6 this far out from launch, why can't we??
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Post by midnight tea on Dec 9, 2019 5:07:15 GMT
They could have done that without the trailer. Again, if they didn’t want to stir the pot then they should have kept that locked up. It’s not like the trailer showed that it was going to be a RPG anyway. If they have nothing they can actually talk about, it’s just a jerky thing to do to constantly go “Oh this is cool. Bet you wish you could see this.” I wonder if they were inspired by Bethesda's E3 presentation... Hey, if they can tease ES6 this far out from launch, why can't we?? Well, in case of Bethesda the general opinion was that TES6 teaser was aired to assuage fears that the franchise is basically dead, or that Beth is changing course in game-making after F76. I thought we came to relatively similar conclusions with DA4 teaser? That wasn't long before Anthem's release and not only Bioware wanted to ensure the public that DA4 is actively worked on, but it was part of the subtle campaign of 'yo, we're still developing our classic RPGs'.
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Post by Solas on Dec 9, 2019 19:34:35 GMT
I'm commissioning a scientific study into what percentage of Hanako's 14,402 posts are on the subject of whether/wanting the Inquisitor will/to return as PC in DA4
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 9, 2019 21:52:36 GMT
I'm commissioning a scientific study into what percentage of Hanako's 14,402 posts are on the subject of whether/wanting the Inquisitor will/to return as PC in DA4
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Post by themikefest on Dec 9, 2019 22:22:32 GMT
I'm commissioning a scientific study into what percentage of Hanako's 14,402 posts are on the subject of whether/wanting the Inquisitor will/to return as PC in DA4 Then when it's confirmed that the Inquisitor won't return, how many posts will Hanako Ikezawa create saying Bioware is wrong and won't buy the game?
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Post by Serza on Dec 9, 2019 23:29:54 GMT
They could show concept art.
Any reasonable person will think "Oh, this is nice, but there's no guarantee it will make it past concept stage."
They also give us SOME information. While avoiding repeating the Crestwood screw up.
I'm commissioning a scientific study into what percentage of Hanako's 14,402 posts are on the subject of whether/wanting the Inquisitor will/to return as PC in DA4 Then when it's confirmed that the Inquisitor won't return, how many posts will Hanako Ikezawa create saying Bioware is wrong and won't buy the game?
Way too many.
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Post by colfoley on Dec 9, 2019 23:42:23 GMT
They could show concept art.
Any reasonable person will think "Oh, this is nice, but there's no guarantee it will make it past concept stage."
They also give us SOME information. While avoiding repeating the Crestwood screw up.
Then when it's confirmed that the Inquisitor won't return, how many posts will Hanako Ikezawa create saying Bioware is wrong and won't buy the game?
Way too many.
I wonder how much information they can give at this stage without avoiding the crestwood situation.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 9, 2019 23:46:44 GMT
I'm commissioning a scientific study into what percentage of Hanako's 14,402 posts are on the subject of whether/wanting the Inquisitor will/to return as PC in DA4 Then when it's confirmed that the Inquisitor won't return, how many posts will Hanako Ikezawa create saying Bioware is wrong and won't buy the game? A lot less than you, Serza, and the others like to complain.
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Post by Frost on Dec 10, 2019 1:32:25 GMT
They could have a teaser trailer that shows the Inquisitor with a new prosthetic arm.
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Post by Avejajed on Dec 10, 2019 1:39:38 GMT
Y'all are sure getting chippy.
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Post by doggiesnores on Dec 10, 2019 1:46:35 GMT
I really wish they would show concept art. I remember the print they released of DAI before we knew much about it with the special edition of WOT Vol.1. It has Varric in it. I was so freaked out and excited to see him back lol
I want concept art, a Dev Diary, and maybe some looks at 3D models of creatures, monsters and NPC’s. It can be all in one video, but it’s been a year and...the beast has been awoken and not greeted with any coffee.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 10, 2019 2:32:15 GMT
They could have a teaser trailer that shows the Inquisitor with a new prosthetic arm. Really they’d just need to show the prosthetic left hand since everyone would know who it is.
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Post by Serza on Dec 10, 2019 8:44:27 GMT
Then when it's confirmed that the Inquisitor won't return, how many posts will Hanako Ikezawa create saying Bioware is wrong and won't buy the game? A lot less than you, Serza , and the others like to complain.
When was the last time I complained about anything to do with the game?
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Dec 10, 2019 9:09:21 GMT
A lot less than you, Serza , and the others like to complain. When was the last time I complained about anything to do with the game?
You never shut up about how it ignores Slavic lore...oh...sorry, wrong game.
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Post by AlleluiaElizabeth on Dec 10, 2019 16:19:26 GMT
They could show concept art.
Any reasonable person will think "Oh, this is nice, but there's no guarantee it will make it past concept stage."
They also give us SOME information. While avoiding repeating the Crestwood screw up.
Way too many.
I wonder how much information they can give at this stage without avoiding the crestwood situation. Well one would think they'd know who the protagonist of the game is by this point. Lol crestwood was a matter of a set piece ending up different not “does the main character have the anchor?”
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Post by alanc9 on Dec 10, 2019 16:32:23 GMT
Hey, can someone remind me what we're talking about with Crestwood? It's been a while.
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