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Post by Gilli on Mar 14, 2019 15:31:08 GMT
In german the Fade is "Nichts" (Nothing) but.. it's not nothing... (ok, Elder Scrolls isn't better, instead of Oblivion we get "Leere" (Void) ) Surely in a language which allows you to make "Lower Danube Steamship Company Employees Sport Club" into one word there must be some way of creating an appropriate expression. Of course, it doesn't help that "Fade" is not being used in the normal sense here. Yeah, honestly looking at the dictionary I can't even think of a "better" translation for the Fade. There's a german "Fade" (Fah-deh) but that means stale/flavorless/boring
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Post by Hrungr on Mar 14, 2019 15:39:35 GMT
John Epler @eplerjc I wonder if we wear out our apostrophe keys on DA more quickly than on other AAA franchises.
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Post by mfr001 on Mar 14, 2019 16:14:51 GMT
Surely in a language which allows you to make "Lower Danube Steamship Company Employees Sport Club" into one word there must be some way of creating an appropriate expression. Of course, it doesn't help that "Fade" is not being used in the normal sense here. Yeah, honestly looking at the dictionary I can't even think of a "better" translation for the Fade. There's a german "Fade" (Fah-deh) but that means stale/flavorless/boring Fade seems a fairly accurate description! Unless you meet the more interesting residents, so how about Spinneheim?
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Post by midnight tea on Mar 14, 2019 16:19:17 GMT
Surely in a language which allows you to make "Lower Danube Steamship Company Employees Sport Club" into one word there must be some way of creating an appropriate expression. Of course, it doesn't help that "Fade" is not being used in the normal sense here. Yeah, honestly looking at the dictionary I can't even think of a "better" translation for the Fade. There's a german "Fade" (Fah-deh) but that means stale/flavorless/boring Same here. It's not something that is easy to translate to Polish, but I can think of better substitutes than different words denoting nothingness or emptiness since... well... Fade's not something that is empty (and even if there's the Void, it's distinct enough from regular Fade to not be considered one and the same). It's even funnier in Inquisition when one of things that happens often is Solas mentioning/trying to convince people this empty place is full of wonderful things >.> Dunno - maybe the idea is that the translated name is ironic in nature?
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Post by Hrungr on Mar 14, 2019 16:35:17 GMT
John Epler @eplerjcI wonder if we wear out our apostrophe keys on DA more quickly than on other AAA franchises. Pronk On mel_f_lemShot across the bow, @patrickweekes Patrick Weekes @patrickweekesH'ur'tful John Epler @eplerjcTo be -fair-, these aren't your apostrophes. Pronk On @ mel_f_lemWait someone is out-apostropheing Patrick? Where is the emergency hotline I call for this
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Post by ladyiolanthe on Mar 14, 2019 17:02:33 GMT
John Epler @eplerjcI wonder if we wear out our apostrophe keys on DA more quickly than on other AAA franchises. Pronk On mel_f_lemShot across the bow, @patrickweekes Patrick Weekes @patrickweekesH'ur'tful John Epler @eplerjcTo be -fair-, these aren't your apostrophes. Pronk On @ mel_f_lemWait someone is out-apostropheing Patrick? Where is the emergency hotline I call for this seb hanlon @hanlspIN CASE OF APOSTROPHE “BREAK” “GLASS”
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Post by Gilli on Mar 14, 2019 17:19:24 GMT
Yeah, honestly looking at the dictionary I can't even think of a "better" translation for the Fade. There's a german "Fade" (Fah-deh) but that means stale/flavorless/boring Fade seems a fairly accurate description! Unless you meet the more interesting residents, so how about Spinneheim? You know, thinking about it, "Geisterwelt" (Spirit World) wouldn't be such a wrong translation for the Fade. That said: Spirit and Ghost get both translated to "Geist" in german. Mind too... Yeah, honestly looking at the dictionary I can't even think of a "better" translation for the Fade. There's a german "Fade" (Fah-deh) but that means stale/flavorless/boring Same here. It's not something that is easy to translate to Polish, but I can think of better substitutes than different words denoting nothingness or emptiness since... well... Fade's not something that is empty (and even if there's the Void, it's distinct enough from regular Fade to not be considered one and the same). It's even funnier in Inquisition when one of things that happens often is Solas mentioning/trying to convince people this empty place is full of wonderful things >.> Dunno - maybe the idea is that the translated name is ironic in nature? Right? Oooh! Btw I nearly forgot, Sera's greatest fear is "Nothingness" right? How did they translate that? "Nichts" Now imagine me, playing DAI for the first time, in german and seeing her gravestone, that said "Nichts". me: /I know she's afraid of the Fade/
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Post by midnight tea on Mar 14, 2019 18:00:08 GMT
Fade seems a fairly accurate description! Unless you meet the more interesting residents, so how about Spinneheim? You know, thinking about it, "Geisterwelt" (Spirit World) wouldn't be such a wrong translation for the Fade. That said: Spirit and Ghost get both translated to "Geist" in german. Mind too... You know, I wouldn't be surprised if Solas approved of that... (we also have the same word for 'spirit' and 'ghost', mind is separate tho). I wonder if this is German translators being cheeky
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Post by Gilli on Mar 14, 2019 19:14:24 GMT
You know, thinking about it, "Geisterwelt" (Spirit World) wouldn't be such a wrong translation for the Fade. That said: Spirit and Ghost get both translated to "Geist" in german. Mind too... You know, I wouldn't be surprised if Solas approved of that... (we also have the same word for 'spirit' and 'ghost', mind is separate tho). I wonder if this is German translators being cheeky True, I bet he'd like that. Who knows What they need to change, is how they translate friend. I know in english "friend" is kinds ambigous, sadly because of that they've translated it "wrong" twice in DAI and confused the hell out of me. in german: Freund - male friend / boyfriend Freundin - female friend / girlfriend (depending on context) now to example 1: in Jaw of Hakkon we got "No one could know. Orlais had to stay flawless, without the fear, to fail. "Please, beloved (dearest?) friend. For both our people." <--- they used the female friend/girlfriend translation, making it sound like this conversation was between Ameridan and Telana, instead of Emperor Drakon and Ameridan. (it also makes it sound like Ameridan is human ) Example 2: one of Cole's cryptic comments in Trespasser. The english text says: "His friend had to die. Because he thought they were people. A slow arrow breaks in the sad wolf's jaws." the german text is the same, but again they used the female friend/girlfriend translation. Making it sound like Solas killed Briala as punishment for Felassan.
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Post by pessimistpanda on Mar 14, 2019 21:45:27 GMT
Lol. "His friend had to die. Because he thought they were people." Is a pretty severe indictment of Solas and his position.
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Post by midnight tea on Mar 14, 2019 21:52:34 GMT
Lol. "His friend had to die. Because he thought they were people." Is a pretty severe indictment of Solas and his position. Solas: You fought the Tal-Vashoth for a long time, Iron Bull, did you not? Iron Bull: Every day. Iron Bull: I'd kill some of them, they'd kill some of my guys, and then I'd kill them some more. Solas: No man can kill so many people without breaking inside. To survive... those you fight must become monsters. Iron Bull: The ones that kill innocent people, yeah. The rest... I don't know. Solas: The mind does marvelous things to protect itself.
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Post by wright1978 on Mar 14, 2019 21:55:33 GMT
Felassan got what he deserved.
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Post by pessimistpanda on Mar 14, 2019 21:58:52 GMT
Lol. "His friend had to die. Because he thought they were people." Is a pretty severe indictment of Solas and his position. Solas: You fought the Tal-Vashoth for a long time, Iron Bull, did you not? Iron Bull: Every day. Iron Bull: I'd kill some of them, they'd kill some of my guys, and then I'd kill them some more. Solas: No man can kill so many people without breaking inside. To survive... those you fight must become monsters. Iron Bull: The ones that kill innocent people, yeah. The rest... I don't know. Solas: The mind does marvelous things to protect itself. But Felassan was his friend. That's my point. He killed his friend for having compassion for people suffering in a situation that Solas created.
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Post by midnight tea on Mar 14, 2019 22:09:33 GMT
Solas: You fought the Tal-Vashoth for a long time, Iron Bull, did you not? Iron Bull: Every day. Iron Bull: I'd kill some of them, they'd kill some of my guys, and then I'd kill them some more. Solas: No man can kill so many people without breaking inside. To survive... those you fight must become monsters. Iron Bull: The ones that kill innocent people, yeah. The rest... I don't know. Solas: The mind does marvelous things to protect itself. But Felassan was his friend. That's my point. He killed his friend for having compassion for people suffering in a situation that Solas created. From perspective of a commander doing something he and his people (as is Felassan, at least to a point) believe is more important than anybody's life (including his own) and may yet be of paramount importance to the world itself, what Felassan did was a betrayal, so in that regard he's little different than Leliana ordering to kill her spy (despite being friends once) or Inquisitor vowing to stop Solas even if it means killing him (even if they're friends). And I think we may have a lengthy discussion about whether Solas has "created" the situation or prevented something worse from happening by whatever means were available to him.
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Post by NotN7 on Mar 14, 2019 22:20:19 GMT
Surely in a language which allows you to make "Lower Danube Steamship Company Employees Sport Club" into one word there must be some way of creating an appropriate expression. Of course, it doesn't help that "Fade" is not being used in the normal sense here. Yeah, honestly looking at the dictionary I can't even think of a "better" translation for the Fade. There's a german "Fade" (Fah-deh) but that means stale/flavorless/boring Isn't there a word regardless of language that means to slowly disappear? because to me that's what the Fade to me in all of the DA games is to slowly disappear
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Post by Gilli on Mar 14, 2019 22:45:48 GMT
Yeah, honestly looking at the dictionary I can't even think of a "better" translation for the Fade. There's a german "Fade" (Fah-deh) but that means stale/flavorless/boring Isn't there a word regardless of language that means to slowly disappear? because to me that's what the Fade to me in all of the DA games is to slowly disappear Sure, there are verbs for it, but a Noun? At least a noun that would mean what the DA Fade is? No. In this online dictionary are a few translations for Fade, BUT they're mostly very specific (fade-out, fade-in, etc) and there where it isn't, they use an english word. Okay, you could maybe say "Das Verschwinden" but that means something totally different (the Vanishing, only used in context of someone going missing)
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Post by Hrungr on Mar 14, 2019 22:59:52 GMT
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Post by NotN7 on Mar 14, 2019 23:07:50 GMT
Isn't there a word regardless of language that means to slowly disappear? because to me that's what the Fade to me in all of the DA games is to slowly disappear Sure, there are verbs for it, but a Noun? At least a noun that would mean what the DA Fade is? No. In this online dictionary are a few translations for Fade, BUT they're mostly very specific (fade-out, fade-in, etc) and there where it isn't, they use an english word. Okay, you could maybe say "Das Verschwinden" but that means something totally different (the Vanishing, only used in context of someone going missing) Ah I see knowing only English Fade to me is to slowly I guess become transparent to disappear to be forgotten etc.
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Post by midnight tea on Mar 14, 2019 23:28:21 GMT
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Post by OhDaniGirl on Mar 14, 2019 23:40:48 GMT
What kind of game is this!?!
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Post by midnight tea on Mar 14, 2019 23:46:52 GMT
What kind of game is this!?! Hey - ham that tastes like despair has to be made out of something.
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Post by ladyiolanthe on Mar 15, 2019 0:04:13 GMT
What kind of game is this!?! Hey - ham that tastes like despair has to be made out of something. It's made out of long pig.
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Post by ellawyn on Mar 15, 2019 6:32:50 GMT
In fairness, they had Alexis Kennedy do a bit of free-lance writing, and anyone familiar with his work knows that cannibalism comes up with a... disconcerting frequency.
Frankly I'll be disappointed if there isn't any in the game. Ideally in a coat of stuffy British humor.
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Post by mfr001 on Mar 15, 2019 12:08:52 GMT
What kind of game is this!?! One where food supply is not going to be an issue. "Solas, old boy, would you like to try out this new bath we've designed. Don't worry about the vegetables, they have been chosen to make sure you develop a fine fragrance."
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Post by UutIVvdPw7END0Ef on Mar 15, 2019 13:58:52 GMT
Ghouls, people possessed by Hunger demon, and Broodmothers engage in cannibalism.
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