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Post by OhDaniGirl on Jul 13, 2019 23:52:56 GMT
idk about the VA tease from AWR tbh, last time this happened it wasn't for DA and there are elves and bears in most every fantasy game. #doubt what's the timeline for this sort of thing in game development anyway? with DA4's recent reboot, eeeh I kinda feel like it's too early at this stage for voicework? ...Only the DA 'reboot' wasn't recent. It was in 2017. Almost two years ago. Also, we have no idea what this 'reboot' entailed. It's possible they were able to keep a good portion of what they had done up until that point.
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Post by Solas on Jul 14, 2019 0:02:20 GMT
thats true, been so long now all the years startin to blend together lmao. I guess the publishing of that Schreier article makes it seem more recent than it actually was, like my brain is thinking of a few months ago when the article itself was posted rather than the time before that it actually refers to in the text. certainly HOPE it's for DA4, I'm just so wary of freaking out about it tho cuz last time it had nothing to do with BioWare.
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Post by colfoley on Jul 14, 2019 0:18:32 GMT
Plus if they have been working on it for two years they Could be fairly late in development.
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Post by midnight tea on Jul 14, 2019 0:24:04 GMT
thats true, been so long now all the years startin to blend together lmao. I guess the publishing of that Schreier article makes it seem more recent than it actually was, like my brain is thinking of a few months ago when the article itself was posted rather than the time before that it actually refers to in the text. certainly HOPE it's for DA4, I'm just so wary of freaking out about it tho cuz last time it had nothing to do with BioWare. Yea, I think Schreier's article, which was mostly a re-hash of what he's already reported months/years ago makes the reboot seem more recent than it actually is. ...Which is why I can't wait for all those 'they've rushed DA!' takes if we get a release date anytime soon ...Only the DA 'reboot' wasn't recent. It was in 2017. Almost two years ago. Also, we have no idea what this 'reboot' entailed. It's possible they were able to keep a good portion of what they had done up until that point. That's true. The name Morrison suggests the projects are, at the very least, similar - both artists performed at the exact same time, were about as popular and, sadly, died young.
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Post by colfoley on Jul 14, 2019 0:25:39 GMT
thats true, been so long now all the years startin to blend together lmao. I guess the publishing of that Schreier article makes it seem more recent than it actually was, like my brain is thinking of a few months ago when the article itself was posted rather than the time before that it actually refers to in the text. certainly HOPE it's for DA4, I'm just so wary of freaking out about it tho cuz last time it had nothing to do with BioWare. Yea, I think Schreier's article, which was mostly a re-hash of what he's already reported months/years ago makes the reboot seem more recent than it actually is. ...Which is why I can't wait for all those 'they've rushed DA!' takes if we get a release date anytime soon Also, we have no idea what this 'reboot' entailed. It's possible they were able to keep a good portion of what they had done up until that point. That's true. The name Morrison suggests the projects are, at the very least, similar - both artists performed at the exact same time, were about as popular and, sadly, died young. yeah that's going to be...annoying.
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Post by Hrungr on Jul 14, 2019 0:32:04 GMT
thats true, been so long now all the years startin to blend together lmao. I guess the publishing of that Schreier article makes it seem more recent than it actually was, like my brain is thinking of a few months ago when the article itself was posted rather than the time before that it actually refers to in the text. certainly HOPE it's for DA4, I'm just so wary of freaking out about it tho cuz last time it had nothing to do with BioWare. It's worth noting that only a small team (Mike called it a "skeleton crew") has been on DA4 until Anthem launched. And how many DA leads were also moved over to Anthem? So the team has only been ramping up since March-ish. I think it's still too early for VA-ing on DA, unless it's for some promotion.
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Post by Solas on Jul 14, 2019 0:39:55 GMT
aaaah I see. a promo was not something I had considered
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Post by midnight tea on Jul 14, 2019 0:55:38 GMT
thats true, been so long now all the years startin to blend together lmao. I guess the publishing of that Schreier article makes it seem more recent than it actually was, like my brain is thinking of a few months ago when the article itself was posted rather than the time before that it actually refers to in the text. certainly HOPE it's for DA4, I'm just so wary of freaking out about it tho cuz last time it had nothing to do with BioWare. It's worth noting that only a small team (Mike called it a "skeleton crew") has been on DA4 until Anthem launched. And how many DA leads were also moved over to Anthem? So the team has only been ramping up since March-ish. I think it's still too early for VA-ing on DA, unless it's for some promotion. It's worth noting that there are certain individuals on the forum that made it quite apparent a skeleton crew can accomplish more than we think. The major question now is whether the ramping up means that the serious work is just getting started or do those re-joining the team are there to basically finish the game. Given that the core team had about as much time to work on Morrison as they did on Joplin (and we have hints that there may be a lot of Joplin in Morrison) at a time they began ramping up, I'm not sure we can tell where exactly they are or how their work is scheduled.
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Post by Hrungr on Jul 14, 2019 1:21:00 GMT
It's worth noting that only a small team (Mike called it a "skeleton crew") has been on DA4 until Anthem launched. And how many DA leads were also moved over to Anthem? So the team has only been ramping up since March-ish. I think it's still too early for VA-ing on DA, unless it's for some promotion. It's worth noting that there are certain individuals on the forum that made it quite apparent a skeleton crew can accomplish more than we think. The major question now is whether the ramping up means that the serious work is just getting started or do those re-joining the team are there to basically finish the game. Given that the core team had about as much time to work on Morrison as they did on Joplin (and we have hints that there may be a lot of Joplin in Morrison) at a time they began ramping up, I'm not sure we can tell where exactly they are or how their work is scheduled. I remember, but I didn't take his comments to mean that their small team could crank out an entire game of this scope (the "volume of content"), just that they could do more than what was implied by the person he was answering. Typical AAA (RPG) games take hundreds-thousands of devs years to make. That's a lot dev-hours when you add it all up.
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Post by colfoley on Jul 14, 2019 1:26:16 GMT
The way I see it with DA 4s development only two scenarios are likely. They assume that to make a good tripple A game these days takes right about three years of dev time, no matter the genre*.
1. The game started development in 2017 and the Skeleton crew was able to get enough of the ball rolling that we can expect a 2020 (likely delayed to 2021) release.
2. The game only really started development after Anthem finished in which case we can expect a 2022 release date (likely delayed to 2023).
The only ancilliary evidence I have to support one over the other is that they did decide to tease the game at the GAs last year and...at least to the best of my recollection...as long as I have been following BioWare their pattern is pretty much release vague teaser then one year later release an actual trailer which is more or less the start of the media blitz until release. I also find it a bit...unlikely...that BioWare would just decide to release a trailer then wait for over an entire year before we get anymore teasers or trailers or media of any kind. BioWare is probably in a rock and a hard place but I can't imagine any scenario where people wouldn't become concerned if the next we hear about the game isn't going to be till...what? 2021 or 22?
The only two things we don't have an answer for which could effect this is:
A. How much has the 'skeleton crew' gotten accomplished in the two years of dev time already given?
B. How much of 'Joplin' is surviving in 'Morrison'?
Either of these questions could really effect the dev time and eventual release.
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Post by Hrungr on Jul 14, 2019 1:37:17 GMT
The way I see it with DA 4s development only two scenarios are likely. They assume that to make a good tripple A game these days takes right about three years of dev time, no matter the genre*. 1. The game started development in 2017 and the Skeleton crew was able to get enough of the ball rolling that we can expect a 2020 (likely delayed to 2021) release. 2. The game only really started development after Anthem finished in which case we can expect a 2022 release date (likely delayed to 2023). The only ancilliary evidence I have to support one over the other is that they did decide to tease the game at the GAs last year and...at least to the best of my recollection...as long as I have been following BioWare their pattern is pretty much release vague teaser then one year later release an actual trailer which is more or less the start of the media blitz until release. I also find it a bit...unlikely...that BioWare would just decide to release a trailer then wait for over an entire year before we get anymore teasers or trailers or media of any kind. BioWare is probably in a rock and a hard place but I can't imagine any scenario where people wouldn't become concerned if the next we hear about the game isn't going to be till...what? 2021 or 22? The only two things we don't have an answer for which could effect this is: A. How much has the 'skeleton crew' gotten accomplished in the two years of dev time already given? B. How much of 'Joplin' is surviving in 'Morrison'? Either of these questions could really effect the dev time and eventual release. There was also the guy who gave us the heads-up we'd get a no-title DA trailer in the last GA. At the same time he mentioned that the game was still at least 3 years away (late 2021).
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Post by colfoley on Jul 14, 2019 1:47:06 GMT
The only real problem in waiting is that the longer I have to wait, while I can wait 'pateintly' (more or less) my wife may kill me if we have to wait for the game to come out in 2023 and all my references of 'I Can't wait for the next Dragon Age'. Which of course I am already hyped for the game and the 'media blitz' hasn't really begun yet. I mean I'd try and find something to take my mind off of it but the trouble is *everything* reminds me of DA pretty much these days in one way or another. Play Mass Effect? Its done by BioWare. Play Assassin Creed Odyssey? 'Fantasy' RPG with swords and bows. (and a few GP tropes I hope they utilize for four to boot) Watch Game of Thrones? Epic dark fantasy. Watch Arrow? More bows. So yes, I am truly doomed.
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Post by midnight tea on Jul 14, 2019 2:01:49 GMT
It's worth noting that there are certain individuals on the forum that made it quite apparent a skeleton crew can accomplish more than we think. The major question now is whether the ramping up means that the serious work is just getting started or do those re-joining the team are there to basically finish the game. Given that the core team had about as much time to work on Morrison as they did on Joplin (and we have hints that there may be a lot of Joplin in Morrison) at a time they began ramping up, I'm not sure we can tell where exactly they are or how their work is scheduled. I remember, but I didn't take his comments to mean that their small team could crank out an entire game of this scope (the "volume of content"), just that they could do more than what was implied by the person he was answering. Typical AAA (RPG) games take hundreds-thousands of devs years to make. That's a lot dev-hours when you add it all up. My comment didn't mean to suggest that the game is basically half-done - but if DA4, unlike MEA or Anthem, indeed had a robust pre-production period where they maybe worked out most of the kinks, we can't be sure what their schedule looks like and when VO is being done for the game. I mean... if the story is basically done, the VA may as well already be recording simultaneously with the rest of the team building all the volume of content needed to ship the game. Plus, they're moving to a new building. I guess it'd be a good time to perhaps focus on stuff that ain't actually made/recorded in Edmonton.
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Post by Hrungr on Jul 14, 2019 4:36:00 GMT
Dumped, Drunk, and Dalish 🐺 ⬆️ @drunkdalish I love Dalish. I've also thought, from time to time, that she would be an incredible double agent for Fen'Harel. And that Bull would even approve, to some extent.
Holly March [ThornbackQuaintrelleVirago] @marcherwitch i havs wondered! i can see him both embraci g and being utterly baffled bh her!
Patrick Weekes @patrickweekes At one point, we considered adding Dalish to DAI multiplayer. We were going to have one of her talent trees be filled with all kinds of spells and just label it “Archery.”
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Post by Zemgus on Jul 14, 2019 7:00:13 GMT
Dumped, Drunk, and Dalish 🐺 ⬆️ @drunkdalishI love Dalish. I've also thought, from time to time, that she would be an incredible double agent for Fen'Harel. And that Bull would even approve, to some extent. Holly March [ThornbackQuaintrelleVirago] @marcherwitchi havs wondered! i can see him both embraci g and being utterly baffled bh her! Patrick Weekes @patrickweekesAt one point, we considered adding Dalish to DAI multiplayer. We were going to have one of her talent trees be filled with all kinds of spells and just label it “Archery.” I don't get the fascination. She repeats one joke over and over and that's the entire character. Didn't like the Bull's Charger's in general though. They end up dead in most of my playthroughs anyway.
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Post by apollexander on Jul 15, 2019 3:25:14 GMT
Let's see if they get a robust pre-alpha version for this Christmas.
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Post by Sartoz on Jul 15, 2019 16:37:21 GMT
Came across a pic of Leliana. Bio changed her face again. Seeing as the studio is using the same engine, I can't understand the need to change face.
Anyway the new face and her philtrum, nose and lips remind of an actress but can't remember who.
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Post by Hrungr on Jul 15, 2019 16:59:38 GMT
Came across a pic of Leliana. Bio changed her face again. Seeing as the studio is using the same engine, I can't understand the need to change face.
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Post by midnight tea on Jul 15, 2019 17:04:00 GMT
Came across a pic of Leliana. Bio changed her face again. Seeing as the studio is using the same engine, I can't understand the need to change face.
Anyway the new face and her philtrum, nose and lips remind of an actress but can't remember who. This is the Next-Gen Sartoz... Next-Gen! Next-Gen cosplay?
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Post by Sartoz on Jul 15, 2019 17:07:24 GMT
Came across a pic of Leliana. Bio changed her face again. Seeing as the studio is using the same engine, I can't understand the need to change face.
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LOL!!!
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Post by gervaise21 on Jul 15, 2019 17:56:22 GMT
Dumped, Drunk, and Dalish 🐺 ⬆️ @drunkdalishI love Dalish. I've also thought, from time to time, that she would be an incredible double agent for Fen'Harel. And that Bull would even approve, to some extent. I always thought her cover story was a bit iffy even if they had introduced the idea of the Dalish restricting the number of mages per clan because they were afraid of possession. Cleary she is a capable mage and reached adulthood without problems, so if her clan had too many, why not simply wait for the next Arlathven and she could join another clan that was lacking? Instead her Keeper kicks her out to "see the world". I don't buy it personally. Either there had been a big falling out between them or maybe she wasn't a Dalish at all.
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Post by gervaise21 on Jul 15, 2019 18:00:21 GMT
Came across a pic of Leliana. Bio changed her face again. Seeing as the studio is using the same engine, I can't understand the need to change face. So is Bioware really behind this or is it just someone else's mod? There seems even less reason to change her face considering the epilogue to Trespasser definitely has her handing over the reins of her spy network to her protégées, so why would she even appear?
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Post by Hrungr on Jul 15, 2019 18:10:29 GMT
Came across a pic of Leliana. Bio changed her face again. Seeing as the studio is using the same engine, I can't understand the need to change face. So is Bioware really behind this or is it just someone else's mod? There seems even less reason to change her face considering the epilogue to Trespasser definitely has her handing over the reins of her spy network to her protégées, so why would she even appear? (When your cosplay is so on-point people think it's a mod...)
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Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Mass Effect Andromeda, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
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Post by AlleluiaElizabeth on Jul 15, 2019 18:12:18 GMT
What Hrungr said. That's a photo, guys. lol
Would love it if DA4's graphics were that good. Though it'd mean I'd need to upgrade my pc again. *grumbles*
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