Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, Anthem, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
What characters say in DAO definitely seem to refer to the remoteness of the HQ. Communication in DAO was implied to be very slow and thus it might take weeks for HQ to even be aware of what had happened to the Wardens in Ferelden.
I have not followed the whole discussion, but this kept coming up in the research I have been doing recently so I wanted to reinforce it. What I read in TWoT2 regarding the duties of the wardens indicated that due to the slow down of communication after the loss of the griffins, the Warden Commanders are effectively expected to act autonomously for the most part with little direction from the First Warden to the point where the First Warden is seen as a bit of a figurehead outside the Anderfels. It seems that apart from an annual report written to the Chamberlain of the Grey, communication is infrequent.
BioWare Brand Ambassador: 20% off of BioWare merch purchased at the BioWare Gear Store with this code: TBU
MistressTrevelyan @muirnara All hands meeting you say?
Emily (aka Domino) Taylor pentapod It's a regular thing, don't get too excited No sexy gloomy tree romances were discussed
Imperator Furiåsa @devilkitten If you want to get picky, we did mention the gloomy tree romance in the slack channel. Or at least @norseartemis did.
Gabe Heiland @norseartemis The fans said they wanted the treemance and my job is to stand up for the data. So.
Imperator Furiåsa @devilkitten It's not JUST the fans. Give a BioWare dev a romance option and.... you know. I just hope our dear writers are prepared for dendrophiles.
Sheryl Chee @sherylchee We're always prepared. The writing team celebrates love in all its myriad forms.
John Epler @eplerjc Our writing team is never afraid to branch out.
Gabe Heiland @norseartemis Dammit, you woke the writers again! We just stemmed the tide of puns.
Destroyer of Fictional Worlds! And so damn tired. @arone_le_bray It's okay, their bark is worse than their bite.
MistressTrevelyan @muirnara All hands meeting you say?
Emily (aka Domino) Taylor pentapod It's a regular thing, don't get too excited No sexy gloomy tree romances were discussed
Imperator Furiåsa @devilkitten If you want to get picky, we did mention the gloomy tree romance in the slack channel. Or at least @norseartemis did.
Gabe Heiland @norseartemis The fans said they wanted the treemance and my job is to stand up for the data. So.
Imperator Furiåsa @devilkitten It's not JUST the fans. Give a BioWare dev a romance option and.... you know. I just hope our dear writers are prepared for dendrophiles.
Sheryl Chee @sherylchee We're always prepared. The writing team celebrates love in all its myriad forms.
John Epler @eplerjc Our writing team is never afraid to branch out.
Gabe Heiland @norseartemis Dammit, you woke the writers again! We just stemmed the tide of puns.
Destroyer of Fictional Worlds! And so damn tired. @arone_le_bray It's okay, their bark is worse than their bite.
Romanceable Sylvan companion confirmed?
How much abundance the world carries If every fistful of sand Is an eternity of mountains.
Jos Hendriks @sjosz In a shocking twist, I have found a level design problem I might solve *without* explosions. I will, of course, still add explosions anyway to avoid my co-workers' suspicions.
(this is a joke tweet both because not nearly as many level design problems are solved with explosions, AND because solving level design problems without explosions is great and a completely valid approach)
Karin (West) Weekes @karinweekes You know I am sad if a minimum explosion level is not maintained...
Jos Hendriks @sjosz Karin I would never deprive you or any other explosion-oriented individual.
Anonymous asked: Hi, I just wanted to say how much I adored Knight Errant! Vaea and Aaron are just an amazing duo and I can't wait to see what's ahead with them! I also want to thank you for how you treated Sebastian. I find a lot of the content around him (from Bioware and fans alike) just dismiss and mock him so it was refreshing to see him not being constantly shit on. XO
Christina Weir & Nunzio DeFilippis: We’re quite fond of Sebastian. We wanted to make sure to do him justice in Knight Errant.
Glad you liked the mini. We hope you like the next few minis - Deception and Blue Wraith. And we hope you read through to what we have coming next, because that will bring things full circle with Knight Errant in some ways.
What? No mention of the Fex? If the Executors are a new race (I don’t think they are, or at least they accept other races into their ranks), I think the Fex have a better shot than the Kossith.
If they do introduce a new race, I wonder if they’ll look Asian. I know David Gaider and some of the others said that would be how they introduced new ethnicities into the game since humans came from other continents to Thedas.
What? No mention of the Fex? If the Executors are a new race (I don’t think they are, or at least they accept other races into their ranks), I think the Fex have a better shot than the Kossith.
If they do introduce a new race, I wonder if they’ll look Asian. I know David Gaider and some of the others said that would be how they introduced new ethnicities into the game since humans came from other continents to Thedas.
I do think there is some wiggle room there too. The word 'race'could just mean 'foreign...whatever'
Patreon (for my writing, posting chapters of my novel)
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Mass Effect Andromeda, Mass Effect Legendary Edition Prime Posts: 1,348 Posts: 368 Likes: 805
What? No mention of the Fex? If the Executors are a new race (I don’t think they are, or at least they accept other races into their ranks), I think the Fex have a better shot than the Kossith.
If they do introduce a new race, I wonder if they’ll look Asian. I know David Gaider and some of the others said that would be how they introduced new ethnicities into the game since humans came from other continents to Thedas.
Basically, Jade Empire. I wouldn't mind though. As an asian, it would make my day.
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights Posts: 12,921 Likes: 30,609
Member is Online
I'd mention here that I think Iron Bull saying that the Kossith were very different from the Qunari relates more to their mentality and beliefs rather than their physical appearance, or he is just plain wrong. Ogres are sufficiently similar to Qunari that you can see a common ancestor and that would appear to be the Kossith who landed in southern Ferelden just before the First Blight.
It does seem strange that the Executor's face was completely covered as though not wanting it to be seen, although that could just be a cultural thing rather than the fact they look strange. In fact if they can move among the races unmasked without arousing attention, then it could simply have been done to conceal the identity of the agent. Now since Solas only turned the person to stone and not their clothes, I'm surprise Charter didn't take a look beneath the Veil but perhaps she was wary of the fact that Solas might not allow this.
We've already discussed some of the possibilities for the Executors on other threads (including the Environment one). There are various oceans they could have crossed from. Obviously the Qunari came from somewhere, as did the ancient tribe of the Neromenians. They could be from across the Amaranthine Ocean, where Antivan legend says is the land of Amaranth, but this is alleged to be an uninhabited paradise but any attempts to colonise it have ended in disaster, so it could point to the inhabitants being reclusive rather than non-existent and well able to defend themselves from intruders.
The Executors could be connected to the Par Ladi civilsation to the north of the Boeric Ocean. Another mysterious group who would seem to be human, reclusive and strong in magic. They have managed to discourage and repel visitors to their shores and did not appear to want to engage with the rest of Thedas. However, the breach in the sky could well have prompted them to send agents to investigate how much of a threat it might pose to them. Hence them not appearing until DAI. Then once word got back that the Dread Wolf was active, they decided they did need to engage more as they definitely saw him as a threat. (I'm sure the Executor knew more about Fen'Harel that would have been helpful, which is why Solas silenced them).
Or the Executors could be connected with the civilisation of the Voshi across the Volca Sea to the west. They were a peculiar group, willing to interact for trade but little else, seemingly obsessed with acquiring lyrium. Their ships were always captained by dwarves, suggesting they held respect in their society, but there were never any elves. There was a break of several years with no ships appearing on the shores of Thedas but they have recently started to return with tales of a massive cataclysm in their homeland. I wonder what caused this? They seem less mysterious than the Par Ladi and thus less likely to be connected with the Executors but who knows? If they were originally a group of humans and dwarves that escaped servitude to the elven civilisation, they would definitely not welcome its return.
Post by ellanathehamster on Jun 27, 2020 9:41:30 GMT
How likely is it they add dual protagonist in the next game? Replaying DAKI, and Hawke seems so alien. I would love to have at least pick his lines. And fighting Solas with Inquisitor would be so much pleasing than with new hero. It just seems like a waste not to utilize drama to it's fullest. Do you think it would be too much to hope to have both the new hero and Inquisitor playable?
How likely is it they add dual protagonist in the next game? Replaying DAKI, and Hawke seems so alien. I would love to have at least pick his lines. And fighting Solas with Inquisitor would be so much pleasing than with new hero. It just seems like a waste not to utilize drama to it's fullest. Do you think it would be too much to hope to have both the new hero and Inquisitor playable?
There is always hope. I also didn't like having Hawke come back as an npc in DAI. For DA4 it makes the most story sense for the Inquisitor to come back as pc, but it is hard for me to tell if they will do it or not. I guess we will find out...in 2 years.
How likely is it they add dual protagonist in the next game? Replaying DAKI, and Hawke seems so alien. I would love to have at least pick his lines. And fighting Solas with Inquisitor would be so much pleasing than with new hero. It just seems like a waste not to utilize drama to it's fullest. Do you think it would be too much to hope to have both the new hero and Inquisitor playable?
I'm honestly so on the other side of this opinion. If the Inquisitor isn't the sole PC I don't want them coming back at all. Mostly that's just because evey way i imagine it is quite jarring, so i wouldn't go so far as to say it's a deal breaker. Such as:
1) We spend all the game as someone else only for the Inquisitor to steal the spotlight at the end
2) We play as the Inquisitor at the start and Solas is reduced to the Mage/Templar War level of flop
3) Our 2 heros never even meet and so it's almost like playing 2 different stories
4) We can at one point choose dialogue for both PCs and I die out of convolution.
I just hate every idea i come up with to see how it could work, and while i will be the first to admit i don't know enough to make a comment there is one thing that gets me about it. If they bring the Inquisitor back at any point to have a major part in the story and we play as them, it's no different than admitting there was no need for the new PC in the first place. Especially if Solas is the big bad and the Inquisitor is the one to end him in any way. What would have been the point of the New PC?
Again this is based on all the assumptions i have on a game we only know will have trees and red lyruim ruins, but still. New PC only or Inquisitor only would be my preference.
I'm honestly so on the other side of this opinion. If the Inquisitor isn't the sole PC I don't want them coming back at all. Mostly that's just because evey way i imagine it is quite jarring, so i wouldn't go so far as to say it's a deal breaker. Such as:
1) We spend all the game as someone else only for the Inquisitor to steal the spotlight at the end
2) We play as the Inquisitor at the start and Solas is reduced to the Mage/Templar War level of flop
3) Our 2 heros never even meet and so it's almost like playing 2 different stories
4) We can at one point choose dialogue for both PCs and I die out of convolution.
I just hate every idea i come up with to see how it could work, and while i will be the first to admit i don't know enough to make a comment there is one thing that gets me about it. If they bring the Inquisitor back at any point to have a major part in the story and we play as them, it's no different than admitting there was no need for the new PC in the first place. Especially if Solas is the big bad and the Inquisitor is the one to end him in any way. What would have been the point of the New PC?
Again this is based on all the assumptions i have on a game we only know will have trees and red lyruim ruins, but still. New PC only or Inquisitor only would be my preference.
I agree having the Inquisitor as the only PC would be great. However, I think not having the Inquisitor in DA4 at all leaves a lot of story problems. Bioware has already established in Trespasser and TN that the Inquisitor is actively involved in the efforts to stop Solas. The Inquisitor might delegate some smaller things to agents, but it would be strange for the Inquisitor not to show up at the final confrontation. Why would the Inquisitor be MIA at such an important moment? Leaving everything to agents doesn't make sense to me when the stakes are so high.
I'm honestly so on the other side of this opinion. If the Inquisitor isn't the sole PC I don't want them coming back at all. Mostly that's just because evey way i imagine it is quite jarring, so i wouldn't go so far as to say it's a deal breaker. Such as:
1) We spend all the game as someone else only for the Inquisitor to steal the spotlight at the end
2) We play as the Inquisitor at the start and Solas is reduced to the Mage/Templar War level of flop
3) Our 2 heros never even meet and so it's almost like playing 2 different stories
4) We can at one point choose dialogue for both PCs and I die out of convolution.
I just hate every idea i come up with to see how it could work, and while i will be the first to admit i don't know enough to make a comment there is one thing that gets me about it. If they bring the Inquisitor back at any point to have a major part in the story and we play as them, it's no different than admitting there was no need for the new PC in the first place. Especially if Solas is the big bad and the Inquisitor is the one to end him in any way. What would have been the point of the New PC?
Again this is based on all the assumptions i have on a game we only know will have trees and red lyruim ruins, but still. New PC only or Inquisitor only would be my preference.
I agree having the Inquisitor as the only PC would be great. However, I think not having the Inquisitor in DA4 at all leaves a lot of story problems. Bioware has already established in Trespasser and TN that the Inquisitor is actively involved in the efforts to stop Solas. The Inquisitor might delegate some smaller things to agents, but it would be strange for the Inquisitor not to show up at the final confrontation. Why would the Inquisitor be MIA at such an important moment? Leaving everything to agents doesn't make sense to me when the stakes are so high.
I agree with you, but i just also think that having them show up in a small cameo would be just as bad as them being too involved in the story of the new PC. In all honesty i don't think Hawke would have been missed if they didn't show up, and i think it would be better to have the story go as much like that as possible so that not having the Inquisitor wouldn't be a big issue. Like i said, i just can't reconcile 'we need a new PC' with 'we also need the old PC'. If the Inquisitor is going to be so involved in the story that they would be missed if they weren't there, I don't see the point in the new PC. Similarly, if the new PCs story is not directly linked with the Inquisition then i see no reason for the Inquisitor to show up. Since a new PC is the more likely outcome, I really hope we don't see the Inquisitor. Not even if i had temporary control over them, it would just take me out of the story too much.
EDIT: Then there is also the fact that needing new people was because Solas knows the Inquisitions movements. Regardless of whether or not we play the Inquisitor or a new PC, Solas would then be 'familiar' with them (or not since you could argue that the Inquisitor's behaviour would be different as a sole agent) so either way, any connection with the Inquisition hits this particular roadblock, except that Solas has no reason to not kill a new PC the second they get in his way.
Last Edit: Jun 27, 2020 16:07:31 GMT by smudjygirl
I agree with you, but i just also think that having them show up in a small cameo would be just as bad as them being too involved in the story of the new PC. In all honesty i don't think Hawke would have been missed if they didn't show up, and i think it would be better to have the story go as much like that as possible so that not having the Inquisitor wouldn't be a big issue. Like i said, i just can't reconcile 'we need a new PC' with 'we also need the old PC'. If the Inquisitor is going to be so involved in the story that they would be missed if they weren't there, I don't see the point in the new PC. Similarly, if the new PCs story is not directly linked with the Inquisition then i see no reason for the Inquisitor to show up. Since a new PC is the more likely outcome, I really hope we don't see the Inquisitor. Not even if i had temporary control over them, it would just take me out of the story too much.
The best solution, then, is to just go with the Inquisitor as the only pc.
I agree with you, but i just also think that having them show up in a small cameo would be just as bad as them being too involved in the story of the new PC. In all honesty i don't think Hawke would have been missed if they didn't show up, and i think it would be better to have the story go as much like that as possible so that not having the Inquisitor wouldn't be a big issue. Like i said, i just can't reconcile 'we need a new PC' with 'we also need the old PC'. If the Inquisitor is going to be so involved in the story that they would be missed if they weren't there, I don't see the point in the new PC. Similarly, if the new PCs story is not directly linked with the Inquisition then i see no reason for the Inquisitor to show up. Since a new PC is the more likely outcome, I really hope we don't see the Inquisitor. Not even if i had temporary control over them, it would just take me out of the story too much.
The best solution, then, is to just go with the Inquisitor as the only pc.
Exactly my thoughts
Last Edit: Jun 27, 2020 17:16:59 GMT by smudjygirl
Post by luketrevelyan on Jun 27, 2020 17:16:50 GMT
If I have to wait 8 years just to play as the same protagonist again that will be truly disappointing. I'll still play but that's one of the bigger letdowns that could happen for me. I'm fine with dual but if it is only Inquisitor that is very disappointing, especially when we have been told over and over again we get a new PC each game. I was ok with Hawke as an NPC and I'd be ok with Inquisitor as one as well.
I also didn't like having Hawke come back as an npc in DAI. For DA4 it makes the most story sense for the Inquisitor to come back as pc, but it is hard for me to tell if they will do it or not. I guess we will find out...in 2 years. 
However, I think not having the Inquisitor in DA4 at all leaves a lot of story problems. Bioware has already established in Trespasser and TN that the Inquisitor is actively involved in the efforts to stop Solas. The Inquisitor might delegate some smaller things to agents, but it would be strange for the Inquisitor not to show up at the final confrontation. Why would the Inquisitor be MIA at such an important moment? Leaving everything to agents doesn't make sense to me when the stakes are so high.