Off topic, but I'm seriously jealous of Corinne's hair in that pic. Wish I could be arsed to care for my appearance like that, it looks so pretty!
To be fair, this is not a selfie, this is a professional portrait that almost definitely had a little hair/makeup team. I doubt very much this is her everyday, but that's just my guess I don't know the lady or live anywhere near Canadiastan.
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Off topic, but I'm seriously jealous of Corinne's hair in that pic. Wish I could be arsed to care for my appearance like that, it looks so pretty!
To be fair, this is not a selfie, this is a professional portrait that almost definitely had a little hair/makeup team. I doubt very much this is her everyday, but that's just my guess I don't know the lady or live anywhere near Canadiastan.
To be fair, this is not a selfie, this is a professional portrait that almost definitely had a little hair/makeup team. I doubt very much this is her everyday, but that's just my guess I don't know the lady or live anywhere near Canadiastan.
Corinne is actually in the Austin studio.
interesting...
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To be fair, this is not a selfie, this is a professional portrait that almost definitely had a little hair/makeup team. I doubt very much this is her everyday, but that's just my guess I don't know the lady or live anywhere near Canadiastan.
Eh, not surprising, though. All of BioWare has been working from home for most of the past two and half years, and just a few months back do you remember they announced that they were now perfectly willing to hire people working remotely and not having to move to Edmonton or Austin? They've figured out how to do it and it must have worked reasonably well for them, to make that sort of business decision. Going forward I imagine there could be a lot more devs not in Edmonton but with major roles on the Dragon Age team.
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Eh, not surprising, though. All of BioWare has been working from home for most of the past two and half years, and just a few months back do you remember they announced that they were now perfectly willing to hire people working remotely and not having to move to Edmonton or Austin? They've figured out how to do it and it must have worked reasonably well for them, to make that sort of business decision. Going forward I imagine there could be a lot more devs not in Edmonton but with major roles on the Dragon Age team.
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To be honest, though, I am going to be suspicious of everyone, so betrayal will not come as a surprise, it will be expected.
Especially since with what little they have shared, most if not all are going to be some kind of scum.
Hm.. Interesting word.
Take Cullen. In DA:O I found him to be a whiny templar, unable to think and a useless twit beyond his chosen role. A programmed automaton where the templars are the light and mages are the dark. Is he scum? I don't know. My classification of NPC chars fall into three categories. I like them, don't like them or neutral. The word scum as a char description comes as a surprise.
Interesting trivia. I select my fire team based on my char classification. Thus, the "don't like' are rarely chosen. Sub-optimal perhaps, but hey, I'm here to enjoy the game.
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Especially since with what little they have shared, most if not all are going to be some kind of scum.
Seriously? We all know that it's become your new favorite past time to hate on anything and everything DA4 related, but what exactly is your rationale that "most, if not all" Companions, Advisors and other potential allies will be scum? Just because you might not get all the particular characters and options you personally wanted?
Most, if not all of the main cast of every DA game have been complex and at least morally grey, so what specifically leads you to believe that DA4 will be *that* much different?
Actually, I lean towards the same char types in DA4 as in DA:I or DA:2 for that matter. A good game story needs all types. I expect "scum" types, though my preference is to classify them on personal appeal such as like, don't like or neutral.
Scum is a good word as any and applies to Bartrandd Tethras in DA2. Ignoring the bad and just focusing on the positives is plain silly.
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Tevinter is the home turf of DA4. The place is run by mages of all people. This goes against Chantry teachings yet the Chantry turns a blind eye to this state of things. That is, Tevinter mages are apostate. Where are the Templars?
Is it possible that DA4 devs will re-write Chantry teachings? 'Cause the Imperial Chantry is different from Orlais Chantry. . What have we here? Catholic and Anglican equivalents?
Looking forward to see if they fix this.
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Interesting trivia. I select my fire team based on my char classification. Thus, the "don't like' are rarely chosen. Sub-optimal perhaps, but hey, I'm here to enjoy the game.
I'm pretty much the same, at least first run, although sometimes it is necessary to endure a companion because they have useful skills, like lock picking, not provided by anyone else currently in the team. Then there is the whole problem with certain characters being obligatory for a section of the game, for example Oghran inviting himself along when looking for Branka. Or certain characters rubbing each other up the wrong way when together in the party but pleasant enough company on their own. I felt the reason so many people liked Varric in DA2 is that he wasn't constantly bitching at someone else no matter who he was teamed with. I got around this problem by throwing people together whilst walking around the city, shopping, so I could pick up on the banter and then using my optimal "easy on the ear" team for actual quests. With DAI there was not the option for doing this, since Val Royeaux was the one place where banter never happened, and with the dialogue prompt being very unreliable, I mostly did stick to the people I liked even on subsequent runs and just researched what dialogue I would have got on the Wiki.
Tevinter is the home turf of DA4. The place is run by mages of all people. This goes against Chantry teachings yet the Chantry turns a blind eye to this state of things. That is, Tevinter mages are apostate. Where are the Templars?
Is it possible that DA4 devs will re-write Chantry teachings? 'Cause the Imperial Chantry is different from Orlais Chantry. . What have we here? Catholic and Anglican equivalents?
The Imperial Chant is different than Thedosian. There is nothing to fix here, it has all been explained in-game already.
As Gaben says, this has already been explained multiple times in game both in actual companion dialogue and numerous codices. The Imperial Chantry was in fact the first Chantry, although I'm not sure it was called that when Hessarian established his state religion based on the Maker. He originally established the Circles as places of education, utilising the temples previously dedicated to the Old Gods, to ensure mages were properly trained to serve the State and followed the authorised religion. At that time he was both Archon and Head of the Church. I'm pretty sure that a lot of his ideas were taken south by Drakon's father and influenced the set up of the Chantry in the south, both as state religion of Orlais and overseeing the use of magic. According to World of Thedas, the Circles in Drakon's time performed pretty much the same function as the ones in Tevinter, with the addition of Templars overseeing things, but at that time mages were not totally excluded from society once they had been trained. I think that likely happened when there was the schism between the south and the north. What I have never totally understood is why the southern Chantry took precedence in the religion when the Imperial Chantry had been in existence for some 150 years before the southern Chantry was established, even to the extent of the church in Tevinter initially adapting their religious practices to conform to the southern ones, including dropping the Archon as head of the religion in Tevinter and excluding men from the priesthood. Still apparently the clergy in Tevinter must have thought it important enough for there to be unity between the two branches of the faith that they took these necessary steps to gain acceptance. Then after the Third Blight, when the southern Chantry started to actively promote the idea that Tevinter had been responsible for the Blights, relations deteriorated rapidly, followed by the discovery that there were mages in positions of power in Tevinter, both secular and religious, and when they refused to bow to the southern Divine's demand that they conform, they simply elected their own.
I am looking forward to seeing how different the Imperial Chantry is from its southern rival. Both the novel Asunder and conversation with Dorian, make it clear that the Black Divine has considerable power and is not afraid to use it, so I am hoping we do cross paths with him at some point. However, I don't imagine that it will be so very different in the way it applies the faith to every day life. After all, most Orlesian nobility totally ignore the moral imperatives of the Chant, as do the Crows in Antiva for that matter, despite being allegedly a very pious country, so why would the Altus of Tevinter be any different? The Rite of Tranquility is used in Tevinter on mages that are either so blatantly corrupt the authorities cannot ignore it or, according to Dorian, where the unfortunate mage has caused too much trouble to political rivals and so they wish to make an example of them. The Templars in Tevinter, are really just a non-magical police force, working on behalf of the State rather than the Church, with enforcer mages called Justicars who step in for serious cases. Presumably it is the latter who decide if someone should be made tranquil or just killed outright. I think it may also be illegal for Altus to be made tranquil, based off something that Erimond says if you condemn him to such a fate but it could have just been bluster on his part. The Imperial Chant of Light is said to be on the southern Chantry's list of especially banned books, as are some other Tevinter books about the faith, so it will be interesting to see if the writers come up with any new texts to allow us to appreciate the difference between the two.
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Tevinter is the home turf of DA4. The place is run by mages of all people. This goes against Chantry teachings yet the Chantry turns a blind eye to this state of things. That is, Tevinter mages are apostate. Where are the Templars?
Is it possible that DA4 devs will re-write Chantry teachings? 'Cause the Imperial Chantry is different from Orlais Chantry. . What have we here? Catholic and Anglican equivalents?
Looking forward to see if they fix this.
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The (southern) Chantry declared four Exalted Marches against the Imperium for their heresy, and would have called for more if the Fourth Blight hadn't happened.
And there are Templars in the Imperial Chantry, but they are puppets with no real power (according to Dorian). Apparently they don't even have the standard Templar abilities, because they do not use lyrium.
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What I have never totally understood is why the southern Chantry took precedence in the religion when the Imperial Chantry had been in existence for some 150 years before the southern Chantry was established, even to the extent of the church in Tevinter initially adapting their religious practices to conform to the southern ones, including dropping the Archon as head of the religion in Tevinter and excluding men from the priesthood. Still apparently the clergy in Tevinter must have thought it important enough for there to be unity between the two branches of the faith that they took these necessary steps to gain acceptance.
I think the answer here is “Drakon happened”. For a time, Drakon ruled not just Orlais but the Free Marches and the Anderfels. He was viewed as the savior of Thedas by a lot of people during the Second Blight and it was his Chantry that now dominated the continent. Even the Grey Wardens apparently adopted his faith en masse. Contrary to the old and crumbling Imperium, I can see how the pressure even within Tevinter’s borders was to be associated with the new super power rather than the old establishment (at least on the surface).
That sentiment probably lost some sway when Orlais’ new empire eroded, but the Chantry didn’t. So the Tevinter continues to pay at least nominal tribute to the Orlesian Chantry, probably reverting more and more to old practices over time until the schism.
Edit: We know Drakon was planning to invade Tevinter before deciding to relieve the Wardens at Weisshaupt instead. Perhaps submitting the imperial Chantry to his was an act of appeasement.
What I have never totally understood is why the southern Chantry took precedence in the religion when the Imperial Chantry had been in existence for some 150 years before the southern Chantry was established, even to the extent of the church in Tevinter initially adapting their religious practices to conform to the southern ones, including dropping the Archon as head of the religion in Tevinter and excluding men from the priesthood. Still apparently the clergy in Tevinter must have thought it important enough for there to be unity between the two branches of the faith that they took these necessary steps to gain acceptance.
I think the answer here is “Drakon happened”. For a time, Drakon ruled not just Orlais but the Free Marches and the Anderfels. He was viewed as the savior of Thedas by a lot of people during the Second Blight and it was his Chantry that now dominated the continent. Even the Grey Wardens apparently adopted his faith en masse. Contrary to the old and crumbling Imperium, I can see how the pressure even within Tevinter’s borders was to be associated with the new super power rather than the old establishment (at least on the surface).
That sentiment probably lost some sway when Orlais’ new empire eroded, but the Chantry didn’t. So the Tevinter continues to pay at least nominal tribute to the Orlesian Chantry, probably reverting more and more to old practices over time until the schism.
Which the old establishment was also being blamed even within the Imperium for causing the Blight in the first place...and all their gods had seemingly gone silent all at once which didn't help things.
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