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Post by necrowaif on May 29, 2022 2:08:15 GMT
Ooh, 666 pages … This goes against Chantry teachings yet the Chantry turns a blind eye to this state of things. The “Black Divine” is also a member of Tevinter’s Circle of Magi. They do things a little differently up north, as others have pointed out.
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Post by TabithaTH on May 29, 2022 8:43:06 GMT
Not DA4 related, but thought it might be relevant since some people here liked the first game.
Greedfall 2 has been announced.
Now the question is... will it be out before DA4?
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Post by gervaise21 on May 29, 2022 8:43:35 GMT
Which the old establishment was also being blamed even within the Imperium for causing the Blight in the first place...and all their gods had seemingly gone silent all at once which didn't help things. This whole business of Tevinter being blamed for the Blight by the southern Chantry is also an area where there are various contradictory narratives. The Canticle of Silence was actually written by Hessarian and is thus one of the oldest written religious texts. This absolutely puts responsibility for the Blights on the priesthood of the Old Gods, whilst absolving the Archon because he was allegedly unaware of what was going on. This seems supported by the memory of Corypheus' slave in the Fade. Now this text was removed in 3:41 Towers from the southern Chant of Light by the Divine of that time because a conclave she had established had decided it was too much political propaganda and too little sacred verse to remain in the Chant. This was after the 3rd Blight had ended, so presumably around the same time that the southern Chantry started blaming Tevinter for the Blights, so it was rather peculiar that the text supporting this view should be removed from the Chant. So it suggests to me that what the southern clergy actually objected to was Hessarian placing the blame on the corrupt priesthood of the old religion rather than the Archon and the Magisterium of that time. Tevinter and mages generally cannot be blamed for something that was done in secret by the adherents of a now discredited religion. This presumably also explains Dorian's assertion that the Altus were insistent they were not to blame for the Blights. "It wasn't us," is a perfectly true declaration if the Magisterium were in ignorance of the actions being taken by Corypheus and Co, even if the latter were citizens of Tevinter. Yet Dorian seemed to think that discovering there was a Corypheus in some way discredited the stance taken by his country. Was he unfamiliar with the Canticle of Silence? Did the Imperial Chantry erase it from their Chant as well? Were they trying to maintain they had no knowledge of this version of events at all? Or had they been influenced by the dwarven Ambassadoria that always insisted that the Blight originated from below the Deep Roads and not from the actions of some religious fanatics? Which may yet turn out to be true. Something that has also tended to have a contradictory narrative is the status of the Old Gods in Tevinter at the time Corypheus embarked on his enterprise. His servant's memory suggested that there was a problem with worship of the Old Gods, at least in the area in which Corypheus was a priest, and that he undertook the action he did in order to bring people back to the faith. Why had faith waned before the 1st Blight? That seems odd considering Hessarian had to undertake a religious purge in order to get rid of the Old God priesthood and their Altus supporters in his time, yet by then the Old Gods had allegedly been silent and unable to help their country for some 200 years. The way I have understood these conflicting narratives is that Sethius was actually a minor player in the priesthood of Dumat in the south of the Imperium with designs on being the High Priest (Corypheus) of Dumat in Minrathous, whose efforts to gain greater power and influence with the people had failed, so came up with an audacious plan to elevate himself (at the urging of Dumat?), which is why he told his slave that he should now be called Corypheus just before the sacrifice took place. Whilst Hessarian may have embellished his account of events, nevertheless he probably did use some actual record which had been made at the time, either contained in the archives in Minrathous or conveyed to him by a helpful spirit, either of which would be an option open to him.
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Post by QuizzyBunny on May 29, 2022 11:19:51 GMT
Which the old establishment was also being blamed even within the Imperium for causing the Blight in the first place...and all their gods had seemingly gone silent all at once which didn't help things. This presumably also explains Dorian's assertion that the Altus were insistent they were not to blame for the Blights. "It wasn't us," is a perfectly true declaration if the Magisterium were in ignorance of the actions being taken by Corypheus and Co, even if the latter were citizens of Tevinter. Yet Dorian seemed to think that discovering there was a Corypheus in some way discredited the stance taken by his country. Was he unfamiliar with the Canticle of Silence? Did the Imperial Chantry erase it from their Chant as well? Were they trying to maintain they had no knowledge of this version of events at all?. I think Dorian simply expected everything to be "fake news", including the story of the magisters, and was simply disappointed that "once again" the villain of the story was one of his countrymen.
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Post by gervaise21 on May 29, 2022 14:10:03 GMT
I think Dorian simply expected everything to be "fake news", including the story of the magisters, and was simply disappointed that "once again" the villain of the story was one of his countrymen. Well, he does admit that his religious faith only runs as far as believing there is a Maker because it is more reassuring than not having one. So it is entirely possible that as a child if he asked who was responsible for the Blights, the response was "it wasn't us" and he never saw a reason to challenge that assertion. Also, when the initial reaction of people to him in the south was to spit on him simply for being from Tevinter, it would be rather disappointing to discover another reason why people might feel justified in doing this. However, it wasn't so much the fact that he discovered someone from Tevinter had been responsible for the Blights but that he is then willing to assign collective guilt to the entire nation, or at least his fellow Altus, for the actions of those few. Tevinter may be a state full of corruption where the nobility abuse their power but that is hardly unique to them. As I've frequently pointed out, the nobility of Orlais use poison and knives where the Altus use magic but the end result is pretty much the same, a means of exalting yourself at the expense of others. Vivienne recognised this, which is why she seems to show genuine concern for Dorian's welfare when he returns to Tevinter. She, of course, would have no trouble navigating the politics of the Magisterium. Luckily Dorian is no fool and has teamed up with Maevaris who is adept with politics and has been engaged in outwitting her enemies for far longer than he has. I am pretty convinced, though, that if they are combating corruption in the Magisterium, then sooner or later that is going to bring them into conflict with the Black Divine. He has shown in the past that he is willing to condone anything that maintains his grip on power, and that of his allies, so that will make him very dangerous indeed. He doesn't appear to need a "left hand" to do his dirty work either, being quite willing to assassinate his enemies personally. I can't help feeling that the reason the Venatori are still a force to be reckoned with in Tevinter is because he tacitly approves of what they are doing, including the use of red lyrium. May be that is why Archon Radonis felt he couldn't move against them openly, because he suspected the same.
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Post by Sartoz on May 29, 2022 14:26:13 GMT
The Chantry turns a blind eye to nothing, there are Templars in Tevinter and they can still work the Right of Annulment. It is very much like the schism. The Imperial Chant is different than Thedosian. There is nothing to fix here, it has all been explained in-game already.
Hm... And here I thought the Templars in Tevinter were castrated of their power since they don't use Lyrium. Now, they may have the authoruty to use the Right of Annulment but I find this very unlikely as they need Lyrium to counter the mage powers (or so I understand). Besides, mages are everywhere, not bottled up in some Tower (easy massacre)..
And, where the f***k are the Seekers of Truth? Are they simply a Southern Chantry organisation?
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Post by Sartoz on May 29, 2022 14:27:32 GMT
Ooh, 666 pages … This goes against Chantry teachings yet the Chantry turns a blind eye to this state of things. The “Black Divine” is also a member of Tevinter’s Circle of Magi. They do things a little differently up north, as others have pointed out.
Thank you. I've been made aware of the schism.
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Post by gervaise21 on May 29, 2022 18:29:43 GMT
Now, they may have the authoruty to use the Right of Annulment but I find this very unlikely as they need Lyrium to counter the mage powers (or so I understand) As I explained above, according to Tevinter Nights there are mages called Justicars attached to the Templar force who are specifically called upon to deal with particularly difficult mages and it is likely they are the ones who authorise the use of the Rite of Tranquility. The Rite of Annulment is the authority the Chantry give southern Templars to use against entire Circles that are considered beyond redemption. There has not been any suggestion that such an authority exists in Tevinter and it is hard to see how it could be when the Circles are open institutions purely dedicated to the education of young mages, who once they have graduated go back out into normal society. So the chances of things getting out of hand with respect to demonic possession or a major rebellion taking place seems highly unlikely. Still if this did happen, there are enough mages present in the surrounding community that they could probably deal with it. That is the major difference in Tevinter, even the non-mage Soporati are used to co-existing with mages and have likely developed strategies to defend themselves or at least keep safe if one of those mages goes wild. As for the Templars, it would seem that there are warriors that are specifically trained to be "mage killers" and some of these are probably recruited into the Templar police force. They likely develop special strategies to deal with magical attacks, such as Iron Bull observed about Cullen's use of his shield. They also probably have much greater access to specialist magical items to assist them than they do in the south. And, where the f***k are the Seekers of Truth? Are they simply a Southern Chantry organisation? That is correct, there do not appear to be Seekers of Truth in Tevinter. Seeker Lambert was seconded to the Imperial Templars for a time at the request of the Magister who was leading the group when they crossed paths on the Tevinter border, acting a Seeker liaison officer to the Tevinter Imperium. This Magister was Urian Nihalias, who later became the Black Divine with the assistance of Seeker Lambert, although he thought he was working with him to root out corruption but instead was clearing his way to power. Eventually Lambert discovered the truth and confronted Urian, only to be scorned as naive. As a result he returned south thoroughly embittered and confirmed in his prejudices against mages, vowing never to trust another one. This led to the events that ultimately resulted in the mage rebellion. It is possible that there are those with Seeker powers in Tevinter. One such may be the Viper who appeared to use Templar like powers in the short story in which he appeared. So that could either be because he is using lyrium like the southern Templars or has undergone some sort of ritual like the Seekers of Truth but not necessarily requiring a spirit of faith. The Spirit Warrior specialisation would seem to allow for the utilising of spirits to give powers specific to the type of spirit involved and with less objections to the use of spirits in Tevinter, it is possible this specialisation is more common there. I have also observed that there is some similarity between the Seeker power described by Cassandra that is able to boil the lyrium in the blood of mages with that of the blood mage spell, haemorrhage, so given the knowledge and use of blood magic in Tevinter, that would also suggest that they might have developed a non-mage specialism that mimics the effects as the Seekers do.
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Post by Buckeldemon on May 29, 2022 19:40:33 GMT
Uuuuuh... these "why isn't every other culture on Thedas behaving exactly like orlesian Andrastianism?" made me take a few dices of psychic damage. Now, they may have the authoruty to use the Right of Annulment but I find this very unlikely as they need Lyrium to counter the mage powers (or so I understand) As I explained above, according to Tevinter Nights there are mages called Justicars attached to the Templar force who are specifically called upon to deal with particularly difficult mages and it is likely they are the ones who authorise the use of the Rite of Tranquility. The Rite of Annulment is the authority the Chantry give southern Templars to use against entire Circles that are considered beyond redemption. There has not been any suggestion that such an authority exists in Tevinter and it is hard to see how it could be when the Circles are open institutions purely dedicated to the education of young mages, who once they have graduated go back out into normal society. Given that the reported original justification of the southern Chantry for creating RoA is already completely pointless, I guess Tevinter has nothing official like it. Also, I doubt that one can simply kill a whole bunch of Altus-class heirs and heiresses just because a "holy warrior" feels a bit like mass murder on a random day.
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Post by necrowaif on May 29, 2022 20:12:40 GMT
Given that the reported original justification of the southern Chantry for creating RoA is already completely pointless How ya figure? While there’s no doubt been times the Right of Annulment have been invoked for bad reasons, there’s going to be situations where it’s totally justified, as was the case in Ferelden. (Sure, the Warden saved the day, but imagine what would have happened if an unstoppable video game protagonist *didn’t* happen to go to the tower?) Is the answer to this question “Because I don’t like the southern Chantry”?
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Post by Buckeldemon on May 29, 2022 21:16:57 GMT
Is the answer to this question “Because I don’t like the southern Chantry”? "Why do u hate Chantry???" In case you are seriously interested in an answer (I honestly can't tell)...
Given that the reported original justification of the southern Chantry for creating RoA is already completely pointless How ya figure? While there’s no doubt been times the Right of Annulment have been invoked for bad reasons, there’s going to be situations where it’s totally justified, as was the case in Ferelden. (Sure, the Warden saved the day, but imagine what would have happened if an unstoppable video game protagonist *didn’t* happen to go to the tower?)
This codex is supposedly the background story. It reads as if the Divine came up with a solution to a problem which did not exist. Or did I got something wrong and "fighting obviously hostile abominations" wasn't part of the templar's job description before?
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Post by Heimdall on May 29, 2022 22:20:20 GMT
This codex is supposedly the background story. It reads as if the Divine came up with a solution to a problem which did not exist. Or did I got something wrong and "fighting obviously hostile abominations" wasn't part of the templar's job description before? I think the point of that codex was more the conspiracy that went on for months that the Knight-Commander was unable to unmask. Essentially the logic is: “It’s better to kill the whole circle than let a subversive cabal escalate to the point of harming many people” That’s definitely a horrifying and incredibly unfair overreaction to those specific circumstances, but I can follow the thought.
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Post by colfoley on May 30, 2022 0:21:07 GMT
This codex is supposedly the background story. It reads as if the Divine came up with a solution to a problem which did not exist. Or did I got something wrong and "fighting obviously hostile abominations" wasn't part of the templar's job description before? I think the point of that codex was more the conspiracy that went on for months that the Knight-Commander was unable to unmask. Essentially the logic is: “It’s better to kill the whole circle than let a subversive cabal escalate to the point of harming many people” That’s definitely a horrifying and incredibly unfair overreaction to those specific circumstances, but I can follow the thought. "If the tree is already rotten better to cut down the tree rather then try and deal with the roots" As you say horrific when talking about humans but this a medeval society we are talking about with medeval tech dealing with actual walking, talking, nuclear weapons so it is at least understandable. (Though we should still push for better solutions in game if the opprotunity arises)
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Post by Buckeldemon on May 30, 2022 2:28:48 GMT
It certainly is. But the Right is supposed to be invoked when a Circle has been completely lost to abominations and blood magic. I mean, "when a Grand Cleric/templar commander consider a circle irredeemable" is a pretty fishy definition, but eh... This codex is supposedly the background story. It reads as if the Divine came up with a solution to a problem which did not exist. Or did I got something wrong and "fighting obviously hostile abominations" wasn't part of the templar's job description before? I think the point of that codex was more the conspiracy that went on for months that the Knight-Commander was unable to unmask. Essentially the logic is: “It’s better to kill the whole circle than let a subversive cabal escalate to the point of harming many people” That’s definitely a horrifying and incredibly unfair overreaction to those specific circumstances, but I can follow the thought. Of course we are getting only some vague info here. If we go by what we can see in the games, it is probably the usual "universal paranoia, mutual mistrust, dirty deals to keep precarious power balance, situation escalates" and the Chantry heroically steps in to solve a problem it at least helped create in the first place. Except that the "solution" is about as useful as... hunting rats with unguided rocket artillery or something, of course.
Wonder if they had to ramp up the usual stockholming of the circle mages a few levels after Galatea's great epiphany, lest even one or two of the most braindead loyalist might have recognised that doing the Chantry's every say-so doesn't help one inch if vague guilt-by-being-in-the-same-circle massacres are possible for any reason, at any time.
I think the point of that codex was more the conspiracy that went on for months that the Knight-Commander was unable to unmask. Essentially the logic is: “It’s better to kill the whole circle than let a subversive cabal escalate to the point of harming many people” That’s definitely a horrifying and incredibly unfair overreaction to those specific circumstances, but I can follow the thought. "If the tree is already rotten better to cut down the tree rather then try and deal with the roots" As you say horrific when talking about humans but this a medeval society we are talking about with medeval tech dealing with actual walking, talking, nuclear weapons so it is at least understandable. (Though we should still push for better solutions in game if the opprotunity arises) Funny, that tree thing is my usual take on the Chantry and its agents. Because in this case, it is shared ideology and not merely accident of birth and happening to be in the same concentration camp at the wrong time. (As "gilded prison" would imply a mage actually did something wrong to be sent to a circle, which isn't necessarily the case.)
Aah, yes, the good ol' nuke nonsense. Comes right before the usual semi-Dalek logic which seems to be widespread among templars. Weird that nobody ever leads it to its conclusion though. A certain templar came close, but still kinda sorta missed it. Sure Thedas is "medieval". Funny thing is that "medieval might-makes-right" is only allowed for the muggles apparently. Else, why should anyone complain about the Tevinters or Evanuris or something?
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Post by colfoley on May 30, 2022 3:00:58 GMT
It certainly is. But the Right is supposed to be invoked when a Circle has been completely lost to abominations and blood magic. I mean, "when a Grand Cleric/templar commander consider a circle irredeemable" is a pretty fishy definition, but eh... I think the point of that codex was more the conspiracy that went on for months that the Knight-Commander was unable to unmask. Essentially the logic is: “It’s better to kill the whole circle than let a subversive cabal escalate to the point of harming many people” That’s definitely a horrifying and incredibly unfair overreaction to those specific circumstances, but I can follow the thought. Of course we are getting only some vague info here. If we go by what we can see in the games, it is probably the usual "universal paranoia, mutual mistrust, dirty deals to keep precarious power balance, situation escalates" and the Chantry heroically steps in to solve a problem it at least helped create in the first place. Except that the "solution" is about as useful as... hunting rats with unguided rocket artillery or something, of course.
Wonder if they had to ramp up the usual stockholming of the circle mages a few levels after Galatea's great epiphany, lest even one or two of the most braindead loyalist might have recognised that doing the Chantry's every say-so doesn't help one inch if vague guilt-by-being-in-the-same-circle massacres are possible for any reason, at any time.
"If the tree is already rotten better to cut down the tree rather then try and deal with the roots" As you say horrific when talking about humans but this a medeval society we are talking about with medeval tech dealing with actual walking, talking, nuclear weapons so it is at least understandable. (Though we should still push for better solutions in game if the opprotunity arises) Funny, that tree thing is my usual take on the Chantry and its agents. Because in this case, it is shared ideology and not merely accident of birth and happening to be in the same concentration camp at the wrong time. (As "gilded prison" would imply a mage actually did something wrong to be sent to a circle, which isn't necessarily the case.)
Aah, yes, the good ol' nuke nonsense. Comes right before the usual semi-Dalek logic which seems to be widespread among templars. Weird that nobody ever leads it to its conclusion though. A certain templar came close, but still kinda sorta missed it. Sure Thedas is "medieval". Funny thing is that "medieval might-makes-right" is only allowed for the muggles apparently. Else, why should anyone complain about the Tevinters or Evanuris or something? well I am just as opposed to the Tevinters and Evanuris on the same grounds. And again I do NOT agree with Chantry or Templar policy. The Circles are an abomination no matter how much Vivienne might like them. But the analogy is still a apt one and given that this nuke can be hacked and armed by outside malevolent forces means that the question of what to do with mages is an important one for any Thedas society...which as an aside it is rather funny that all three main societies in Thedas answer the question in crap ways. Though also I have to give half a point to the Dalish here for probably being the best.
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Post by necrowaif on May 30, 2022 8:17:23 GMT
Dragon Age trended on Twitter again today and it did not go unnoticed by other developers.
Summerfall Studios - Stray Gods @summerfallgames absolutely amazing that Dragon Age is trending every 2-3 weeks
we’re all missing Thedas a lil bit hey
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Post by gervaise21 on May 30, 2022 8:57:06 GMT
While there’s no doubt been times the Right of Annulment have been invoked for bad reasons, there’s going to be situations where it’s totally justified, as was the case in Ferelden. (Sure, the Warden saved the day, but imagine what would have happened if an unstoppable video game protagonist *didn’t* happen to go to the tower?) The Templars could have done their job? The whole thing didn't make a lot of sense really. Our small party of four, none of whom are necessarily specialised in dealing with the problem, manages to get the tower back under control without killing every mage within it. There were several mages we encounter along the way that we can choose to save or not that an Annulment would just have slaughtered regardless of their status. I wouldn't mind betting that was true of every Annulment. Still the plot lines repeatedly seem to make the Templars look totally useless compared with our heroes. Look at DA2. Cullan apparently needs 10 years to establish if one of his own Templars is possessed, yet we can solve it with just a quick zap of Anders' staff. Plus didn't Cullen use exactly the same approach as us to flush the demon out of Wilmoud? If it is so difficult to spot if someone is possessed, how do they know if the Harrowing has failed or not, assuming the demon doesn't instantly twist the mage into a monster? A clever demon could spend years enjoying the freedom outside the Fade, just so long as it doesn't do anything to alert people to its presence. This is the problem with allowing an Annulmemnt. If the mages were going to be released into the wider community, it might just be possible to justify it, but if they are going to continue to be confined within the Circle, then what is the problem? Also, I doubt that one can simply kill a whole bunch of Altus-class heirs and heiresses just because a "holy warrior" feels a bit like mass murder on a random day. This is pretty much what I was trying to say above. I doubt if even the Black Divine would be prepared to risk his position by authorising such a purge. Hessarian seems to be the only Archon who has got away with such a mass blood bath in the name of religion and he did have the advantage that the Old Gods had failed to assist against the 1st Blight (or Andraste), so removing their priesthood and the Altus who supported them was probably considered justified by the Altus that preferred to back him, having also conveniently had visions from the Maker to encourage them to do so. On the whole, though, attacking the political elite does tend to send the wrong message to the masses and dissolving ancient magical bloodlines would likely be considered suicidal if they wish to retain their grip on power
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Post by Hrungr on May 30, 2022 18:05:29 GMT
BioWare @biowareGet to know Mac Walters (@macwalterslives), Dragon Age’s Production Director, in our latest BioWare Developer Story! x.ea.com/73737
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Post by biggydx on May 30, 2022 19:08:02 GMT
Hrungr, how could you?! You know you're never supposed to mention, post, or make allusions to that... Mac (gulps) Walter's guy. You know UBSN does not tolerate his name around these parts. /s
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Post by Ravenfeeder on May 30, 2022 20:11:55 GMT
Hrungr, how could you?! You know you're never supposed to mention, post, or make allusions to that... Mac (gulps) Walter's guy. You know UBSN does not tolerate his name around these parts. /s Shush! Don't tell him. I've got the popcorn ready and everything. I'm just waiting for the thread to go nova.
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Post by necrowaif on May 30, 2022 20:15:07 GMT
The whole thing didn't make a lot of sense really. Our small party of four, none of whom are necessarily specialised in dealing with the problem, manages to get the tower back under control without killing every mage within it. Our small party of LEGENDARY FANTASY HEROES, keep in mind. Just because the Warden and their band of extraordinarily-skilled supporting misfits can hack their way through a tower full of demons, abominations and ensorcelled templars doesn't mean Greagoir with his small band of frightened, wounded survivors is capable of doing the same feat. Superman is not trained to put out fires, but he is still far more capable of rescuing people from apartment building fires than your average non-powered firefighter. That shouldn't be a slight against the Metropolis fire department.
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Post by QuizzyBunny on May 30, 2022 21:18:28 GMT
Uhm, Mac wrote Garrus - that alone makes him great in my book. I also think in general people are too willing to point the finger towards one specific person when looking for a scapegoat when in reality it's the team as a whole, and sometimes people we don't even know about, that are responsible.
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Post by Beerfish on May 30, 2022 21:34:55 GMT
Funny how everyone and their dog hates the Chantry and the templars for trying to root out the bad apples and blast them for going too far when in almost every case of conflict the mages in power not only refused to cooperate to root out bad apples but were actually the bad apples in the first place.
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Post by necrowaif on May 30, 2022 21:57:21 GMT
Funny how everyone and their dog hates the Chantry and the templars for trying to root out the bad apples and blast them for going too far when in almost every case of conflict the mages in power not only refused to cooperate to root out bad apples but were actually the bad apples in the first place. C'mon, Beerfish, we shouldn't judge all mages for the actions of 90 per cent of them.
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Post by Hrungr on May 31, 2022 0:34:01 GMT
Mark Darrah @biomarkdarrah A brief break from DAO so I can get some DA2 footage. (Tomorrow 8am PT)
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