Also, DAII notwithstanding, all past Dragon Age titles have a one-word structure - Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age: (Exodus), Dragon Age: Inquisition, Dragon Age: Dreadwolf, so I guess it's a fit in that sense.
The question how important is the Dreadwolf in DA 4 compared to other titles? I would argue that the Origins are the most important parts of the game. Exodus is a fitting name for Hawke journey and
Inquisition is about well the Inquisition who is the most important faction in DAI.
Because of the Dreadwolf name Solas aka Dread Wolf (one or two words?!? ) must have a lot more screentime than Corypheus or another big bad before. More than the archdemon, Loghain, Arishok?, Meredith and Corypheus.
Also is there room for another significant villians? I really don´t want that the whole game is about Solas.
Also, Apotheosis would be a cool title, but I'd also call it a bit... spoilery? Like, if apotheosis of some sort does indeed happen.
From the wiki: "In theology, apotheosis refers to the idea that an individual has been raised to godlike stature. In art, the term refers to the treatment of any subject (a figure, group, locale, motif, convention or melody) in a particularly grand or exalted manner."
The closest you can come to romancing Solas is the new mage companion named Bolas, a bald elf with a top hat and large mustache that suspiciously looks glued on.
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So, what recurring characters/companions would people like to see as companions in DAD?
My wishlist for characters: - Calpernia - Rhys and Evangeline
For companions: - Shale (she was going to Tevinter) - Dorian (he fits obviously and he's just amazing) - Nathaniel (he's our token Warden) - Zevran (I just really like him)
"He is the most foul, cruel, and bad-tempered rodent you ever set eyes on... He has got huge, sharp -- eh -- he can leap about -- look at the bones!"
So, what recurring characters/companions would people like to see as companions in DAD?
Lace Harding, Calpernia and Maevaris of course.
Dorian, Sten / Arishok and maybe Isabela as major NPCs.
For companions: - Shale (she was going to Tevinter) - Dorian (he fits obviously and he's just amazing) - Nathaniel (he's our token Warden) - Zevran (I just really like him)
Those are all quantum characters so they won´t return as companions. Also Dorian and Zevran are romance options so those will never return as companions. Nathaniel was been considered for DA 2 for some time but Bioware used the existing parts of Nathaniel for Sebastian Vael instead because they couldn´t possible explain how Nathaniel survive his execution. Edit: Maybe they even play after the scrapped Velanna idea as Justice host that Nathaniel could be the one.
Shale would be cool but quantum character again and unfortunately not that popular (Really a shame )
So, what recurring characters/companions would people like to see as companions in DAD?
My wishlist for characters: - Calpernia - Rhys and Evangeline
For companions: - Shale (she was going to Tevinter) - Dorian (he fits obviously and he's just amazing) - Nathaniel (he's our token Warden) - Zevran (I just really like him)
From the wiki: "In theology, apotheosis refers to the idea that an individual has been raised to godlike stature. In art, the term refers to the treatment of any subject (a figure, group, locale, motif, convention or melody) in a particularly grand or exalted manner."
Which is why the Canticle of Apotheosis refers to Andraste's death and elevation to the Maker's side. To be honest, I don't feel that would apply to the Black City being restored to its original state as it has never stopped being seen as the home of the god(s). In fact to be consistent with Chantry lore, the title in such a case would be Dragon Age: Exaltation - since the restoration of the Black City is found in the Canticle of that name.
The thing about DAO and DA2 is that they didn't give too much away in the title. Exodus would have done that, as did Inquisition. We knew from the beginning that we were going to be involved with an organisation called the Inquisition, which based off the history of its predecessor, was likely connected with the Chantry. Now we already knew that Solas was going to feature at some point in the next game and that stopping him from destroying the world was also going to feature, so the title does not reveal any more than our assumptions were correct. Beyond that the title is sufficiently enigmatic that not too much has been revealed at this early stage.
So, what recurring characters/companions would people like to see as companions in DAD?
My wishlist for characters: - Calpernia - Rhys and Evangeline
For companions: - Shale (she was going to Tevinter) - Dorian (he fits obviously and he's just amazing) - Nathaniel (he's our token Warden) - Zevran (I just really like him)
Ideally None pls. New characters for companions
Limit recurrings to NPC roles.
I think we can expect one crossover companion from previous games though likely someone who was a side character (non quantum) in the previous game.
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I mean, we have had quantum characters before (Leliana and Anders for example, to a lesser extent Cullen) so I really don't think you all should overthink that one too much.
"He is the most foul, cruel, and bad-tempered rodent you ever set eyes on... He has got huge, sharp -- eh -- he can leap about -- look at the bones!"
I mean, we have had quantum characters before (Leliana and Anders for example, to a lesser extent Cullen) so I really don't think you all should overthink that one too much.
Leliana (also Cullen) was never a returning companion. She was only a major NPC aka Advisor in DAI.
Anders wasn´t a romance in DAA but you are right they break the rule with Anders plus Justice for one time.
Edit: A second time there was Oghren optional death in DAO.
But i believe after the Leliana outcry Bioware seems to learn the lesson that people should stay dead (not by offscreen death) and don´t return in the sequels. Edit: Or leave it open like in Calpernia there she cleary not dead after her the fight with the Inquisitor.
cole could be interesting but not sure I fully buy it either.
I think that Cole major comeback is pretty unlikely because of his two option to become a human or stay as spirit.
Also for Patrick Weekes Cole was the most difficult companion to write in Dragon Age: Inquisition so i doubt that he is eager to bring him back.
So only Varric is left which would be pretty lame and a wasted slot. And i say this a huge Varric fan but sorry he got plenty enough of screentime in the series already so no thanks.
Not Cole please. He's murder knife resistant. Not a fan of Harding but pretty resigned to her being inevitable. Think Maevaris must be pretty much nailed on for a prominent role, especially considering the game director appointment.
No but Solas cheats on the Inquisitor with some new female elf because the fans have loved that Jacob Taylor has done this before.
I actually can see this happening. At least in the sense that Solas seduces someone else to further his own ends. On the other hand, he wouldn’t really be cheating since his relationship with the Inquisitor is over. Either she breaks up with him or he with her in Trespasser.
Also, DAII notwithstanding, all past Dragon Age titles have a one-word structure - Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age: (Exodus), Dragon Age: Inquisition, Dragon Age: Dreadwolf, so I guess it's a fit in that sense.
The question how important is the Dreadwolf in DA 4 compared to other titles? I would argue that the Origins are the most important parts of the game. Exodus is a fitting name for Hawke journey and
Inquisition is about well the Inquisition who is the most important faction in DAI.
It's already been established in Trespasser that Solas has created the Veil, aka - ended the whole previous world order and created another. He also seems to know many secrets of how the world was/is, including those secrets that may genuinely grant him powers beyond those we've already seen and which could potentially re-shape the world yet again.
Solas is simply such a pivotal character to the entire world that we may as well play the game of "six degrees of Solas" - because it's his actions that have directly created the world we traversed in all the previous and subsequent games. It kinda comes with the territory of someone who has created the world-changing Veil.
Like I've said before and argued in the past - it would have been quite strange to me that, given all the previous set-up, DA4 wasn't largely dedicated to whatever the Dread Wolf is doing or planning, simply by judging on what has been overtly hinted at. I am therefore entirely unsurprised by the name and I think the question of 'how important is the Dread Wolf' has already been answered.
Because of the Dreadwolf name Solas aka Dread Wolf (one or two words?!? ) must have a lot more screentime than Corypheus or another big bad before. More than the archdemon, Loghain, Arishok?, Meredith and Corypheus.
Also is there room for another significant villians? I really don´t want that the whole game is about Solas.
Okay, hang on... none of the previous titles had anything to do with the baddies - in fact two past games directly refer to things related to our protagonists (the EXODUS of Hawkes and the INQUISITION led by the Herald of Andraste).
...so why assume that the title simply means 'Solas will get more screen time as a baddie"?
As I have pointed before, Solas already has a massive role in the story and lore no other villain so far can match, but I think writing off Solas simply as 'the villain' is erroneous, even if we all collectively decide in the end that his actions have to be stopped. Solas has effectively created modern Thedas and he has been there when Evanuris ruled the world. And unlike Corypheus, he's not been warped by the Blight into a misshapen monster who (despite his age and experiences) seems to have known little about the make-up of the world, or what he unleashed on it.
So the Dread Wolf not just the villain - he's the gateway for us to learn why Thedas is the way it is.
The name Dreadwolf to me signifies that - by following Solas in order to try either discover his full motives or ways to stop him - we will likely learn many things about origins of Thedas, or powers like Fade or Blight, etc. So the story will be about the Dread Wolf and at the same time - about virtually everything else (which, I assume, also means many characters with many different agencies, be it good or bad).
From the wiki: "In theology, apotheosis refers to the idea that an individual has been raised to godlike stature. In art, the term refers to the treatment of any subject (a figure, group, locale, motif, convention or melody) in a particularly grand or exalted manner."
I'm not sure why you're bringing the definition (that I know) into this? What's that supposed to mean or counter anything about the title of "Apotheosis" potentially being spoilery?
Because it would be. So far nobody has been raised to godhood in modern Thedas, nor we know whether such is the plan or what it would entail - and if it happened at the end of the game, it would indeed be quite a massive spoiler.
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cole could be interesting but not sure I fully buy it either.
I think that Cole major comeback is pretty unlikely because of his two option to become a human or stay as spirit.
Also for Patrick Weekes Cole was the most difficult companion to write in Dragon Age: Inquisition so i doubt that he is eager to bring him back.
So only Varric is left which would be pretty lame and a wasted slot. And i say this a huge Varric fan but sorry he got plenty enough of screentime in the series already so no thanks.
Not Cole please. He's murder knife resistant. Not a fan of Harding but pretty resigned to her being inevitable. Think Maevaris must be pretty much nailed on for a prominent role, especially considering the game director appointment.
Prominent, almost certainly. But probably not a companion.
Solas is simply such a pivotal character to the entire world that we may as well play the game of "six degrees of Solas" - because it's his actions that have directly created the world we traversed in all the previous and subsequent games. It kinda comes with the territory of someone who has created the world-changing Veil.
And at the end he will die like Corypheus before or kills himself like Saren or TIM.
For me Solas is just another madmen who wants to destroy Thedas. How original...
Okay, hang on... none of the previous titles had anything to do with the baddies - in fact two past games directly refer to things related to our protagonists (the EXODUS of Hawkes and the INQUISITION led by the Herald of Andraste).
...so why assume that the title simply means 'Solas will get more screen time as a baddie"?
Because of the title. Won´t it pretty disapointing if he had similiar screentime to Corypheus or show up late like Meredith.
As I have pointed before, Solas already has a massive role in the story and lore no other villain so far can match, but I think writing off Solas simply as 'the villain' is erroneous, even if we all collectively decide in the end that his actions have to be stopped. Solas has effectively created modern Thedas and he has been there when Evanuris ruled the world. And unlike Corypheus, he's not been warped by the Blight into a misshapen monster who (despite his age and experiences) seems to have known little about the make-up of the world, or what he unleashed on it.
So the Dread Wolf not just the villain - he's the gateway for us to learn why Thedas is the way it is.
Funny that you mentioned Corypheus because you can make the same arguments with him. He was also pretty major in creating Thedas as it is but besides Corypheus enormous (lore) potential he was a lame villian who wants to destroy the world again.
Sorry but personal i don´t care for this destroying the world plot anymore. I am much more interested in grey conflicts like Tevinter vs Qunari or the grey warden civil war. With Solas there is no grey because he wants to destroy the world.
Because it would be. So far nobody has been raised to godhood in modern Thedas, nor we know whether such is the plan or what it would entail - and if it happened at the end of the game, it would indeed be quite a massive spoiler.
What are talking about? Apotheosis is of course about Solas which godhood he actually want to debunk. Its a continuation of Trespasser plot which the old elven gods aren´t gods.