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Post by colfoley on Jun 3, 2022 20:24:53 GMT
So this thread is back to being known as the DA thread? Not DAD? *is mildly dissapointed*
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Jun 3, 2022 20:28:20 GMT
Of course its becoming clear that any such inclusion is walking into a mine field no matter what you do. And that´s why it would be much better to use an already existing transgender character than creating a new one because of course some will hate on fact that were now transgender in DA. But i think it has been 10 years already that Maevaris first apperance was been in comics. So nothing new as some haters will argue.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Jun 3, 2022 20:30:41 GMT
Isn't he also Viscount of Kirkwall now? He could step down when DAD begins... And don´t forget the trailer line: "We´ve got your back. I´ve got your back" So yeah Varric is highly likely in DAD. The only question how much and for what role?
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on Jun 3, 2022 20:41:27 GMT
Who are the "We" ? Is it somekind of a council consisting of Inquisitor & co. or...
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Post by smilesja on Jun 3, 2022 21:26:45 GMT
Can we romance Solas again? No but Solas cheats on the Inquisitor with some new female elf because the fans have loved that Jacob Taylor has done this before. Bioware can't write black people lol.
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Post by smilesja on Jun 3, 2022 21:27:02 GMT
So this thread is back to being known as the DA thread? Not DAD? *is mildly dissapointed* You don't control me DAD!
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Jun 3, 2022 21:40:30 GMT
Bioware can't write black people lol. What?!? So you are saying that Isabela, Vivienne, Duncan and from Mass Effect Steve, Samantha and Anderson are also bad characters?
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jun 3, 2022 21:54:19 GMT
Bioware can't write black people lol. What?!? So you are saying that Isabela, Vivienne, Duncan and from Mass Effect Steve, Samantha and Anderson are also bad characters?
Steve and Samantha aren’t black. Samantha is south Asian (Indian specifically) and Steve is latino.
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Steve and Samantha aren’t black. Samantha is south Asian (Indian specifically) and Steve is latino. Well i am not so sure about Samantha. She could be Indian because she of their UK parents but this hasn´t confirmed. So maybe or maybe not. But Steve is clear an Afro-Latin American.
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Post by QuizzyBunny on Jun 3, 2022 22:22:05 GMT
So I have a friend who's of South Indian heritage, he says Indians would not consider Samantha black... if that's of any help.
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Post by The Elder King on Jun 3, 2022 23:21:11 GMT
No but Solas cheats on the Inquisitor with some new female elf because the fans have loved that Jacob Taylor has done this before. Bioware can't write black people lol. Heh, I'm not sure if Jacob being black influenced that (idiotic) decision, or if it was only based on how unpopular he was compared to the rest of the cast. It was still a stupid move to do, with truly no justification. I don't think they'd do the same in any case for Solas, both because I think they learnt from Jacob's debacle (I'm quite sure they didn't expect the reaction to be as negative as it was), and because Solas is much popular, even if it's a controversial character.
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Post by dadithinkimgay on Jun 3, 2022 23:45:19 GMT
Speaking of Samantha ALIX WILTON REGAN @alixwiltonregan 🐉 🗓 😧 🐺 💜💜💜💜 (this is her quote tweeting the DA:D announcement, notice the winky face )
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Post by smilesja on Jun 3, 2022 23:50:38 GMT
Bioware can't write black people lol. Heh, I'm not sure if Jacob being black influenced that (idiotic) decision, or if it was only based on how unpopular he was compared to the rest of the cast. It was still a stupid move to do, with truly no justification. I don't think they'd do the same in any case for Solas, both because I think they learnt from Jacob's debacle (I'm quite sure they didn't expect the reaction to be as negative as it was), and because Solas is much popular, even if it's a controversial character. Well they did reinforce a stereotype with black people when Jacob cheated on Shepard. For a so called progressive company, Bioware has failed miserably in creating decent black characters. Guess we get put in the back burner in favor of other minorities.
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Post by midnight tea on Jun 4, 2022 0:38:06 GMT
Solas is simply such a pivotal character to the entire world that we may as well play the game of "six degrees of Solas" - because it's his actions that have directly created the world we traversed in all the previous and subsequent games. It kinda comes with the territory of someone who has created the world-changing Veil. And at the end he will die like Corypheus before or kills himself like Saren or TIM. For me Solas is just another madmen who wants to destroy Thedas. How original... Are you working for Bioware or something that you know his final fate and announce it so confidently ? Also - can you explain to me how is it that Bioware has dedicated so much time to Soals/Dread Wolf already in past games, if he was "just another madman"? Like, they've made him a companion for the entire previous game and dedicated almost entire DLC (meant to set up a lot of things for DA4) to him... Well, it depends, isn't it? In Trespasser he didn't get that much screen time save for maybe 15 minutes in the end, yet he was basically present throughout the entire story, as we traverse through places related to him, discover his story and his presence is palpable, even if not literal. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of DA4 was like this, and we got to meet him mostly at pivotal moments. I'm sorry, but you seem to not read my comments before responding to them, otherwise, you'd have caught this (like it's literally in the part you've quoted): "And unlike Corypheus, he's not been warped by the Blight into a misshapen monster who (despite his age and experiences) seems to have known little about the make-up of the world, or what he unleashed on it." Corypheus comparisons are intentional on the writers part, but ultimately superficial - a trap for people who don't read deeper into the story. Because guess who Solas is closer to as far as character trajectory goes? Leliana. And very close in many other respects? Inquisitor. So to you any scenario in which the world is threatened can only be black-and-white?
Take previous world destruction - so far it seems that Solas has already "destroyed the world", but at the same time he's saved it from whatever Evanuris were trying to do. That's as grey of an action as one can get. And I suspect we'll get more of such in the future.
And what if, for example, our own protagonist is put in a situation where they threaten the world?
It wouldn't be the first time Bioware would put our protagonists in situations with few solutions, none of which is 100% satisfactory or even agreeable. I'm just gonna say that I suspect we may be heading in that direction in DA4.
Well then how would Apotheosis be even relevant? Like, it's Apotheosis... but it isn't? And the antagonist actually tries to debunk Apotheosis is a thing? Don't you think it's a tad convoluted? "Dragon Age: Apotheosis, But The Dread Wolf Actually Wants To Debunk The Whole Idea Of Godhood And Thus The Concept Of Apotheosis, So It's Anti-Apotheosis, I Guess?"
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Post by Hrungr on Jun 4, 2022 0:43:54 GMT
Speaking of Samantha ALIX WILTON REGAN @alixwiltonregan 🐉 🗓 😧 🐺 💜💜💜💜 (this is her quote tweeting the DA:D announcement, notice the winky face ) ALIX WILTON REGAN @alixwiltonreganGuys and Gals and All Y’all are giving me some WILLLLLD takes on my pictogram above (which is why I love you) but honestly it was just a very simple: Dragon Age Dreadwolf Geddit? I promise I am not as smart nor nearly as subtle as the rest of you…. For the most part
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Post by colfoley on Jun 4, 2022 0:56:11 GMT
II agree wholeheartedly with Tea and it comes down to a couple of points with me.
1. The issue is with Corypheus that he didn't really get a lot of screentime or no to flesh him out and make him interesting. While it may be easier to do this with a significant amount of screentime involved this is not mandatory. Indeed the most character development that Cory got in DAI was in the Temple of Dumat...when he wasn't even present. Though sure this does, I guess, remain my biggest concern for BioWare in DA 4 whether they can pull this off. Given their track record I do have concerns in this regard, especially in regards to the Illusive Man, but that doesen't mean they can't...and that Solas's presence can loom large over the narrative whether he is really a part of it or not.
2. Even in world ending plots there can be plenty of nuance and grey areas. See RDMs Battlestar Galactica reboot for a good example...also the Witcher. But even with this title reveal being what it is...which sure could indicate Solas has more of a presence then previous antagonists...I'd still bet dollars to doughnuts that we will still see other side plots throughout the game that have been teased at. Tevinter vs Qunari, Qunari vs Antiva, Grey Wardens, Mortaltassi, Dwarves, the whole thing happening in the Deep Roads with those monstrous creations, etc. Unless this title suggests that the shift to SP came with a significant reduction in scope as well, I would think many of these plots in some part or another. Plus, *puts on tin foil*, this is a bit crazy theory center territory but given the Dwarven nature of reveal...the logo looking more rock like...the fact that it looks like a vault...suggests the Dwarves could maybe play a big part in events and given their relation to the Elves this should not be a surprise.
3. And yeah this whole thing has been set up for the long game as Tea pointed out. I tend to view it from the perspective as someone who at least wants to write and has studied the craft...my observations is set up and then pay off. But sometimes the set up looks very much like the pay off. So sometimes you risk doing things the same way twice. In this case Corypheus and Solas has a lot in common...as does the Inquisitor...as does Leiliana...but it is the differences and the compare and contrast where writers can create tension and thematic lessons for their audience to absorb. Corypheus was a madman who wanted to restore the Tevinter Imperium to glory. Solas is a man who wants to restore the Elven Empire to its former glory.
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Post by colfoley on Jun 4, 2022 0:56:53 GMT
Speaking of Samantha ALIX WILTON REGAN @alixwiltonregan 🐉 🗓 😧 🐺 💜💜💜💜 (this is her quote tweeting the DA:D announcement, notice the winky face ) ALIX WILTON REGAN @alixwiltonreganGuys and Gals and All Y’all are giving me some WILLLLLD takes on my pictogram above (which is why I love you) but honestly it was just a very simple: Dragon Age Dreadwolf Geddit? I promise I am not as smart nor nearly as subtle as the rest of you…. For the most part Of course that is what she wants us to think.
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Post by dadithinkimgay on Jun 4, 2022 1:09:48 GMT
ALIX WILTON REGAN @alixwiltonreganGuys and Gals and All Y’all are giving me some WILLLLLD takes on my pictogram above (which is why I love you) but honestly it was just a very simple: Dragon Age Dreadwolf Geddit? I promise I am not as smart nor nearly as subtle as the rest of you…. For the most part Of course that is what she wants us to think. She's playing FAR too much. I've had it!
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jun 4, 2022 1:17:48 GMT
2. Even in world ending plots there can be plenty of nuance and grey areas. See RDMs Battlestar Galactica reboot for a good example...also the Witcher. But even with this title reveal being what it is...which sure could indicate Solas has more of a presence then previous antagonists...I'd still bet dollars to doughnuts that we will still see other side plots throughout the game that have been teased at. Tevinter vs Qunari, Qunari vs Antiva, Grey Wardens, Mortaltassi, Dwarves, the whole thing happening in the Deep Roads with those monstrous creations, etc. Unless this title suggests that the shift to SP came with a significant reduction in scope as well, I would think many of these plots in some part or another. Plus, *puts on tin foil*, this is a bit crazy theory center territory but given the Dwarven nature of reveal...the logo looking more rock like...the fact that it looks like a vault...suggests the Dwarves could maybe play a big part in events and given their relation to the Elves this should not be a surprise. Eh, genocide's pretty much as black and white as you can get. As for things being cut, I actually honestly hope so. That seems far too much to handle in a single game, so some will draw the short sticks and not get the amount of time and effort they deserve. Far better to save some of those things and places for another game.
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Mark Darrah @biomarkdarrah Rejected DA4 title (for real (sort of)) Dragon Age: Minrathous Nights (DAMN)
You should all know that this was never (seriously) considered. Mainly because it is inaccurate to the game. That doesn't mean I didn't SUGGEST it...
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Post by Gileadan on Jun 4, 2022 5:29:03 GMT
So, what recurring characters/companions would people like to see as companions in DAD? As few as at all possible. I find it incredibly awkward to play a new protagonist meeting a returning character and then having to pretend to get to know them all over again. And existing characters had their time in the spotlight already anyway. And ten years later, how many players will even remember the previous games and their characters enough?
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Post by ClarkKent on Jun 4, 2022 6:51:07 GMT
I'm hoping the Qunari-Tevinter war isn't going to be some underwhelming side plot that we quickly 'fix' on the way to beating the caped big bad.
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