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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Mar 9, 2019 8:11:05 GMT
It's a good thing Shepard's sacrifice gave the galaxy an ally with the Reapers then, huh? I'm literally not sure what you're saying here. Are you suggesting the Leviathan are allies? They are not. They were forced to fight the Reapers to save themselves but that in no way suggests that was a permanent alliance. If that is what you were trying to say then I have to say I think it's entirely inaccurate. I was just making a joke about how my ending has the army of giant synthetic cuttlefish that took out the Leviathans last time on our side.
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Post by ahglock on Mar 9, 2019 15:24:04 GMT
I'm literally not sure what you're saying here. Are you suggesting the Leviathan are allies? They are not. They were forced to fight the Reapers to save themselves but that in no way suggests that was a permanent alliance. If that is what you were trying to say then I have to say I think it's entirely inaccurate. I was just making a joke about how my ending has the army of giant synthetic cuttlefish that took out the Leviathans last time on our side. How do you know they are on your side for this? They could just as easily join the leviathans.
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Post by dmc1001 on Mar 9, 2019 17:35:12 GMT
I was just making a joke about how my ending has the army of giant synthetic cuttlefish that took out the Leviathans last time on our side. How do you know they are on your side for this? They could just as easily join the leviathans. That's true. The Reapers conflict with the Leviathan was built entirely around the Leviathan wanting the Catalyst to create a solution to the organic/synthetic problem. The Leviathan was okay with this for a billion years but hid because they didn't want to be harvested. But they still wanted that solution. Once the Reapers stop harvesting, and have done the job the Leviathan wanted done, the conflict is resolved. They could easily fold back into working with the Leviathan. We just don't know. Once Synthesis happens we have no idea what they will do. They are no longer bound to harvest but that doesn't mean they're friendly.
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Post by ahglock on Mar 9, 2019 18:17:02 GMT
How do you know they are on your side for this? They could just as easily join the leviathans. That's true. The Reapers conflict with the Leviathan was built entirely around the Leviathan wanting the Catalyst to create a solution to the organic/synthetic problem. The Leviathan was okay with this for a billion years but hid because they didn't want to be harvested. But they still wanted that solution. Once the Reapers stop harvesting, and have done the job the Leviathan wanted done, the conflict is resolved. They could easily fold back into working with the Leviathan. We just don't know. Once Synthesis happens we have no idea what they will do. They are no longer bound to harvest but that doesn't mean they're friendly. I pretty much hate either or analysis of possibilities as usually their are tons of options. But either you think green means some kumbaya we all get along thing or you think the reapers no longer have that specific reason to kill us because we all are cyborgs. If you think the first, um great we are all indoctrinated. That’s a victory of a sort I guess. If you think the latter you have a all powerful AI race roaming the galaxy with crap logic skills.
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Post by garrusfan1 on Mar 9, 2019 22:49:26 GMT
That's true. The Reapers conflict with the Leviathan was built entirely around the Leviathan wanting the Catalyst to create a solution to the organic/synthetic problem. The Leviathan was okay with this for a billion years but hid because they didn't want to be harvested. But they still wanted that solution. Once the Reapers stop harvesting, and have done the job the Leviathan wanted done, the conflict is resolved. They could easily fold back into working with the Leviathan. We just don't know. Once Synthesis happens we have no idea what they will do. They are no longer bound to harvest but that doesn't mean they're friendly. I pretty much hate either or analysis of possibilities as usually their are tons of options. But either you think green means some kumbaya we all get along thing or you think the reapers no longer have that specific reason to kill us because we all are cyborgs. If you think the first, um great we are all indoctrinated. That’s a victory of a sort I guess. If you think the latter you have a all powerful AI race roaming the galaxy with crap logic skills. exactly. We saw that they changed their mission previously from kill the synthetics to kill the organics when they are advanced enough to make the dangerous synthetics. Whats to say that reaper shep won't see massacre a ton of species because they are now seen as a threat. Think about it. Krogans have a high level of violence among them. well a good way to deal with that is to kill them and the batarians are violent as well so them too. The turians are war like so they die as well. There are a thousand ways control could go wrong and there is no chance to really win against the reapers. And somehow I doubt that even shepard would remain the same when he takes space kids job
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2019 2:36:55 GMT
If there is a Post Reaper War Mass Effect Milk Way Mass Effect game, Whom shall be a Player Character would take the Lead? How would you deal with the Endings Tasteful with your New Player Character? Who would the antagonist be with the Reapers no longer harvesting?
This is why I think a sequel just doesn't make sense. They'd be milking the franchise to stretch out the Reaper war by another game just for the sake of having another game.
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Post by Phantom on Mar 10, 2019 2:52:51 GMT
If there is a Post Reaper War Mass Effect Milk Way Mass Effect game, Whom shall be a Player Character would take the Lead? How would you deal with the Endings Tasteful with your New Player Character? Who would the antagonist be with the Reapers no longer harvesting?
This is why I think a sequel just doesn't make sense. They'd be milking the franchise to stretch out the Reaper war by another game just for the sake of having another game.
Leviathan would be a possible threat to the Non Reaper Milk way galaxy. For the Rule of Cool only, exploring Dark Space where the Reapers actually stay between cycles and having a potential boss battle with Harbringer would be cool. I do need to think this idea thru and this idea if there was a Dark Citadel a dark mirror to the Normal In game Citadel is a Mass Effect equal of Azathoth of Lovecraft fame. Where Reapers like the Outer gods spring forth and exist with him. I know it is a pipe dream.
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Post by alanc9 on Mar 10, 2019 3:28:20 GMT
How do you "boss battle" a kilometres-long starship when you're playing a grunt with an assault rifle?
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Post by themikefest on Mar 10, 2019 3:32:30 GMT
Find a way to enter inside the reaper. Deal with a bunch of uglies on your way to the core to destroy the reaper
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2019 3:41:15 GMT
I don't think you're going to be able to destroy Harbinger with a shotgun or biotics. It's infeasible.
Which is why Harbinger was destroyed by the Crucible.
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Post by Iakus on Mar 10, 2019 20:09:52 GMT
How do you "boss battle" a kilometres-long starship when you're playing a grunt with an assault rifle? Ask Sovereign... Not to mention the two other Reapers Shepard gets into a boss battle with in ME3.
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Post by Iakus on Mar 10, 2019 20:14:59 GMT
Who would the antagonist be with the Reapers no longer harvesting?
This is why I think a sequel just doesn't make sense. They'd be milking the franchise to stretch out the Reaper war by another game just for the sake of having another game.
Leviathan would be a possible threat to the Non Reaper Milk way galaxy. For the Rule of Cool only, exploring Dark Space where the Reapers actually stay between cycles and having a potential boss battle with Harbringer would be cool. I do need to think this idea thru and this idea if there was a Dark Citadel a dark mirror to the Normal In game Citadel is a Mass Effect equal of Azathoth of Lovecraft fame. Where Reapers like the Outer gods spring forth and exist with him. I know it is a pipe dream. Even without the Leviathans, there's hundreds of millions of stars out there, and who knows how much more of the relay network to explore. We wouldn't need a new Space Cthulhu to deal with, there's any number of other possibilities out there.
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Post by Phantom on Mar 10, 2019 20:42:45 GMT
Leviathan would be a possible threat to the Non Reaper Milk way galaxy. For the Rule of Cool only, exploring Dark Space where the Reapers actually stay between cycles and having a potential boss battle with Harbringer would be cool. I do need to think this idea thru and this idea if there was a Dark Citadel a dark mirror to the Normal In game Citadel is a Mass Effect equal of Azathoth of Lovecraft fame. Where Reapers like the Outer gods spring forth and exist with him. I know it is a pipe dream. Even without the Leviathans, there's hundreds of millions of stars out there, and who knows how much more of the relay network to explore. We wouldn't need a new Space Cthulhu to deal with, there's any number of other possibilities out there. true. As much as I love my ideas, there are millions of ideas within the known and unknown areas of Milk Way galaxy. A part of me want to see a cyber punk horror fest of a Mass Effect game.
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Post by garrusfan1 on Mar 10, 2019 21:16:44 GMT
If there is a Post Reaper War Mass Effect Milk Way Mass Effect game, Whom shall be a Player Character would take the Lead? How would you deal with the Endings Tasteful with your New Player Character? Who would the antagonist be with the Reapers no longer harvesting?
This is why I think a sequel just doesn't make sense. They'd be milking the franchise to stretch out the Reaper war by another game just for the sake of having another game.
you wouldn't need to use the reapers though. Most people agree they shouldn't bring the reapers back. However You could easily write about some hostile power showing up and the galaxy having to fight them. Even if they were like how the protheans were where they enslave their defeated foes (yes javik said something to that effect). Or you could use the levitheans somehow or a thousand other ideas. The galaxy is weakened from the reaper war and any threat would be hard to fight. I wrote an idea and posted it here if you want to read it.
(Great idea for future game in the milky way universe. Tell me what you think.) That was the name of it.
Noone wants to bring back the reapers as a foe. However there is a ton of possible ideas for another game in the milky way.
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Post by alanc9 on Mar 10, 2019 22:30:58 GMT
How do you "boss battle" a kilometres-long starship when you're playing a grunt with an assault rifle? Ask Sovereign... Not to mention the two other Reapers Shepard gets into a boss battle with in ME3. That Sovereign fight was so dumb I sometimes blot it out of my memory. Where does the premise that killing Harbinger would matter come from, anyway?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2019 2:17:10 GMT
Who would the antagonist be with the Reapers no longer harvesting?
This is why I think a sequel just doesn't make sense. They'd be milking the franchise to stretch out the Reaper war by another game just for the sake of having another game.
you wouldn't need to use the reapers though. Most people agree they shouldn't bring the reapers back. However You could easily write about some hostile power showing up and the galaxy having to fight them. Even if they were like how the protheans were where they enslave their defeated foes (yes javik said something to that effect). Or you could use the levitheans somehow or a thousand other ideas. The galaxy is weakened from the reaper war and any threat would be hard to fight. I wrote an idea and posted it here if you want to read it.
(Great idea for future game in the milky way universe. Tell me what you think.) That was the name of it.
Noone wants to bring back the reapers as a foe. However there is a ton of possible ideas for another game in the milky way.
Still smells like dragging it on for another game to me. You got your closure with the Extended Cut. Why not accept that as the finale?
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Post by Sanunes on Mar 11, 2019 4:45:39 GMT
Who would the antagonist be with the Reapers no longer harvesting?
This is why I think a sequel just doesn't make sense. They'd be milking the franchise to stretch out the Reaper war by another game just for the sake of having another game.
you wouldn't need to use the reapers though. Most people agree they shouldn't bring the reapers back. However You could easily write about some hostile power showing up and the galaxy having to fight them. Even if they were like how the protheans were where they enslave their defeated foes (yes javik said something to that effect). Or you could use the levitheans somehow or a thousand other ideas. The galaxy is weakened from the reaper war and any threat would be hard to fight. I wrote an idea and posted it here if you want to read it.
(Great idea for future game in the milky way universe. Tell me what you think.) That was the name of it.
Noone wants to bring back the reapers as a foe. However there is a ton of possible ideas for another game in the milky way.
It doesn't mean they would be any better then what we got with Andromeda. Think of it this way instead of travelling to Andromeda everything else about Andromeda happened in The Milky Way with the Kett and Angara being unknown species that never found Reaper tech. Same game, same problems. Just because there might be what people think of a lot of possibilities in The Milky Way doesn't mean that they would like what BioWare came up with.
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Post by griffith82 on Mar 11, 2019 23:07:02 GMT
Ask Sovereign... Not to mention the two other Reapers Shepard gets into a boss battle with in ME3. That Sovereign fight was so dumb I sometimes blot it out of my memory. Where does the premise that killing Harbinger would matter come from, anyway? Yeah that was kinda weird. But I guess it took full control of Saren and killing that husk weakened it.
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Post by ahglock on Mar 12, 2019 5:56:25 GMT
I don't think you're going to be able to destroy Harbinger with a shotgun or biotics. It's infeasible.
Which is why Harbinger was destroyed by the Crucible.
That's kind of how you finish the reaper when you get the reaper IFF. Yeah it was mostly dead already, but the same premise could apply to an alive one.
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Post by ahglock on Mar 12, 2019 5:59:03 GMT
That Sovereign fight was so dumb I sometimes blot it out of my memory. Where does the premise that killing Harbinger would matter come from, anyway? Yeah that was kinda weird. But I guess it took full control of Saren and killing that husk weakened it. Maybe its because I read and played so much cyberpunk style stuff but that didn't even seem slightly odd to me. He had a direct mental link to Sarens body, in shadowrun terms he was hotsimed in and when the body was destroyed he got biofeedback and was stunned and disabled for a short window, long enough for the fleet to destroy it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2019 17:39:39 GMT
I don't think you're going to be able to destroy Harbinger with a shotgun or biotics. It's infeasible.
Which is why Harbinger was destroyed by the Crucible.
That's kind of how you finish the reaper when you get the reaper IFF. Yeah it was mostly dead already, but the same premise could apply to an alive one.
Harbinger would assume direct control of you, and then shoot you in the head with your own gun before you could land a hit on it. It's infeasible.
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Post by ahglock on Mar 12, 2019 18:51:06 GMT
That's kind of how you finish the reaper when you get the reaper IFF. Yeah it was mostly dead already, but the same premise could apply to an alive one.
Harbinger would assume direct control of you, and then shoot you in the head with your own gun before you could land a hit on it. It's infeasible. Getting on board isn’t feasible but if they came up with a gimmick of how you did I have no issue assuming people can resist indoctrination for 10 minutes. It’s usually portrayed as a slow process.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2019 18:59:30 GMT
There's slow and rapid indoctrination.
Why do you want a boss fight with Harbinger anyways?
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Post by Phantom on Mar 12, 2019 19:37:09 GMT
There's slow and rapid indoctrination. Why do you want a boss fight with Harbinger anyways? With Me, Rule of Cool.
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Post by themikefest on Mar 12, 2019 20:16:56 GMT
There's slow and rapid indoctrination. Why do you want a boss fight with Harbinger anyways? With Me, Rule of Cool. That's right. My Shepard enjoyed hearing Harbinger talk smack in ME2. Too bad Harbinger wasn't able to continue with that in ME3. Anyways. Once on the reaper, my Shepard could talk smack to Harbinger while finding a way to the core to destroy Harbinger.
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