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Post by Babar Guy on Apr 18, 2020 14:05:22 GMT
Goddamn do I hate fighting Purge Troopers. I swear they're way harder than all of the actual boss battles, especially the ones that dual wield and the ones with a staff. I wish there was more character stuff, time to talk to everyone and them also interacting as a group. Merrin and Trilla
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Post by Energizer Bunny 211 on Apr 18, 2020 17:31:33 GMT
Yes, I do see parts of that game (ie when you're walking around The Mantis) and I can't help bu think "this would make a great RPG". If they could have designed that part of it more like ME, the game would be a Best Seller for sure.
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Post by Sanunes on Apr 19, 2020 2:34:41 GMT
Yes, I do see parts of that game (ie when you're walking around The Mantis) and I can't help bu think "this would make a great RPG". If they could have designed that part of it more like ME, the game would be a Best Seller for sure. The game was a best seller already, it went beyond EA's expectations and sold eight million copies with a new expectation of selling ten million. I know this is a BioWare board so people will ways want RPG elements, but at times I think they are more of a liability then an asset at times as it depends on the game. Fallen Order was sold as an action game and shoehorning too many elements to appeal to more audiences can hurt the game more then help it. Right now I am thinking that is BioWare's biggest problem with constantly adding more elements and diluting the best parts of their games. edit: Eurogamer Link
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Apr 19, 2020 3:00:40 GMT
Yes, I do see parts of that game (ie when you're walking around The Mantis) and I can't help bu think "this would make a great RPG". If they could have designed that part of it more like ME, the game would be a Best Seller for sure. The game was a best seller already, it went beyond EA's expectations and sold eight million copies with a new expectation of selling ten million. I know this is a BioWare board so people will ways want RPG elements, but at times I think they are more of a liability then an asset at times as it depends on the game. Fallen Order was sold as an action game and shoehorning too many elements to appeal to more audiences can hurt the game more then help it. Right now I am thinking that is BioWare's biggest problem with constantly adding more elements and diluting the best parts of their games. edit: Eurogamer Link Maybe though I think EA did quiet well no tjus twith JFO but with NFS Heat as wel as I think that's a pretty solid gam ewithout Microtranasctions. It does have DLC but no microtransactions. So mayb ethey'are changing tactics a little bit.
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Post by aglomeracja on Apr 19, 2020 9:01:04 GMT
Yes, I do see parts of that game (ie when you're walking around The Mantis) and I can't help bu think "this would make a great RPG". If they could have designed that part of it more like ME, the game would be a Best Seller for sure. The game was a best seller already, it went beyond EA's expectations and sold eight million copies with a new expectation of selling ten million. I know this is a BioWare board so people will ways want RPG elements, but at times I think they are more of a liability then an asset at times as it depends on the game. Fallen Order was sold as an action game and shoehorning too many elements to appeal to more audiences can hurt the game more then help it. Right now I am thinking that is BioWare's biggest problem with constantly adding more elements and diluting the best parts of their games. edit: Eurogamer Link It could be just that there wasn't any decent or half decent single player Star Wars for a while now, and Fallen Order already is quite similar to ME games. The only thing missing is more complex dialogue options and ability to affect some quests and parts of the plot by your decisions. I think those would have helped the game, but also extend development and make it harder to write the sequel.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Apr 19, 2020 11:21:00 GMT
The game was a best seller already, it went beyond EA's expectations and sold eight million copies with a new expectation of selling ten million. I know this is a BioWare board so people will ways want RPG elements, but at times I think they are more of a liability then an asset at times as it depends on the game. Fallen Order was sold as an action game and shoehorning too many elements to appeal to more audiences can hurt the game more then help it. Right now I am thinking that is BioWare's biggest problem with constantly adding more elements and diluting the best parts of their games. edit: Eurogamer LinkIt could be just that there wasn't any decent or half decent single player Star Wars for a while now, and Fallen Order already is quite similar to ME games. The only thing missing is more complex dialogue options and ability to affect some quests and parts of the plot by your decisions. I think those would have helped the game, but also extend development and make it harder to write the sequel. I wouldn' tas ythat exactly th eonl ything both games have in common in reality is the fact their both space action games with upgrade systems. ME wa sdesigned tyo be moer of an RPG/shooter whereas yo udon't use any guns in JFO because you play a Jedi
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Post by Sanunes on Apr 19, 2020 12:03:18 GMT
The game was a best seller already, it went beyond EA's expectations and sold eight million copies with a new expectation of selling ten million. I know this is a BioWare board so people will ways want RPG elements, but at times I think they are more of a liability then an asset at times as it depends on the game. Fallen Order was sold as an action game and shoehorning too many elements to appeal to more audiences can hurt the game more then help it. Right now I am thinking that is BioWare's biggest problem with constantly adding more elements and diluting the best parts of their games. edit: Eurogamer LinkIt could be just that there wasn't any decent or half decent single player Star Wars for a while now, and Fallen Order already is quite similar to ME games. The only thing missing is more complex dialogue options and ability to affect some quests and parts of the plot by your decisions. I think those would have helped the game, but also extend development and make it harder to write the sequel. So besides not having two of the things people consider a signature BioWare elements with not having complex dialogue options and not having a squad that goes into combat with you they are almost the same? Not to mention the story is about the depth of a DLC from BioWare game and other secondary things that people would be wanting from a BioWare game such as choice of weaponry or ranged combat. Yes its skill system is similar to Andromeda and you get the space wizardry aspect, but you are still missing a lot of elements that people talk about being in a BioWare game. As far as "it only did well because there hasn't been a good game" doesn't mean the game automatically would do well if it wasn't a good game.
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Post by aglomeracja on Apr 19, 2020 21:46:07 GMT
It could be just that there wasn't any decent or half decent single player Star Wars for a while now, and Fallen Order already is quite similar to ME games. The only thing missing is more complex dialogue options and ability to affect some quests and parts of the plot by your decisions. I think those would have helped the game, but also extend development and make it harder to write the sequel. So besides not having two of the things people consider a signature BioWare elements with not having complex dialogue options and not having a squad that goes into combat with you they are almost the same? Not to mention the story is about the depth of a DLC from BioWare game and other secondary things that people would be wanting from a BioWare game such as choice of weaponry or ranged combat. Yes its skill system is similar to Andromeda and you get the space wizardry aspect, but you are still missing a lot of elements that people talk about being in a BioWare game. As far as "it only did well because there hasn't been a good game" doesn't mean the game automatically would do well if it wasn't a good game. Yep, I'm saying they are quite similar. Light SF setting, spaceship, crew, multiple hubs to visit, space magic etc.
The story has about as much depth. I don't know how well you remember ME games, but the the actual plot is rather simple in every installment. They are much more focused on characters than anything else, especially ME2.
I never said they are "almost the same", but if you added a dialogue wheel and threw in some meaningful choices, then it would be quite close.
By the way, BD1 is your companion in this game. It would be nice if they added a possibility of taking someone else with you though, especially since you end up with 2 crewmates who are more than capable of helping in combat.
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Post by Energizer Bunny 211 on Apr 21, 2020 13:44:13 GMT
Purely out of curiosity I set V-Sync to OFF (normally I lock it so that my GPU doesn't produce screen tearing given that my monitor is only 59 or 60hz) and I was expecting some screen tearing at least.....But I was floored when I saw that my system was producing between 90 and 145 FPS (all Settings on EPIC) with absolute Zero screen tearing or lag even in intense action or scenes switches where sometimes, the camera has to catch up. It was flawless. But I still think for preference and for peace of mind, I'm gonna go back to locking the refresh rate.
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For those fans of Mongolian throat rock or the opening track and coliseum track has been added to iTunes (at least in Canada). Its Sugaan Essena by The Hu.
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Post by Energizer Bunny 211 on Apr 21, 2020 23:19:23 GMT
Great Song! Damn, I wish they would release the whole OST (with that song on it). I honestly can't think of any reason why they haven't done that yet or didn't do that upon release.
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Great Song! Damn, I wish they would release the whole OST (with that song on it). I honestly can't think of any reason why they haven't done that yet or didn't do that upon release. Not sure if they can, someone put together a track listing just after release and it had a lot of tracks from the movies.
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Post by Energizer Bunny 211 on Apr 22, 2020 13:43:25 GMT
Great Song! Damn, I wish they would release the whole OST (with that song on it). I honestly can't think of any reason why they haven't done that yet or didn't do that upon release. Not sure if they can, someone put together a track listing just after release and it had a lot of tracks from the movies. Why "can't" they? It's largely original music, not like they'd be re-using bits from the movies and therefore have copyright issues. Yes, I know someone has done that- put an alleged soundtrack together but all it is is stuff from the movies............That's deceiving.
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Post by Sanunes on May 5, 2020 2:44:18 GMT
A major update for the game today including NJ+. It looks like they are making it so everything except skills carry forward which I was a little disappointed in. It would have been nice for our skill points to carry forward even if it meant that the skill tree remained locked, but I will have to download the game again to give it a try. www.ea.com/games/starwars/jedi-fallen-order/news/free-content-update
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Post by DragonKingReborn on May 5, 2020 3:09:22 GMT
A major update for the game today including NJ+. It looks like they are making it so everything except skills carry forward which I was a little disappointed in. It would have been nice for our skill points to carry forward even if it meant that the skill tree remained locked, but I will have to download the game again to give it a try. www.ea.com/games/starwars/jedi-fallen-order/news/free-content-updateI saw that mentioned in the Star Wars (TV/Film) thread. Bloody annoying that I literally finished my 2nd PT last night!
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Post by sjsharp2010 on May 5, 2020 3:12:16 GMT
A major update for the game today including NJ+. It looks like they are making it so everything except skills carry forward which I was a little disappointed in. It would have been nice for our skill points to carry forward even if it meant that the skill tree remained locked, but I will have to download the game again to give it a try. www.ea.com/games/starwars/jedi-fallen-order/news/free-content-updateYeah looking a ttha thas mad em ethin kof trying the game again at some point.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on May 5, 2020 4:04:37 GMT
A major update for the game today including NJ+. It looks like they are making it so everything except skills carry forward which I was a little disappointed in. It would have been nice for our skill points to carry forward even if it meant that the skill tree remained locked, but I will have to download the game again to give it a try. www.ea.com/games/starwars/jedi-fallen-order/news/free-content-updateI normally would be disappointed in the skills not transferring, but considering the story of the game and how its built I understand this time. I'm more than happy with us being able to transfer our cosmetics (plus Inquisitor Cal!).
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Post by DragonKingReborn on May 5, 2020 4:06:28 GMT
Also confirmation of a sequel is nice.
*crosses fingers for more Merrin*
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A major update for the game today including NJ+. It looks like they are making it so everything except skills carry forward which I was a little disappointed in. It would have been nice for our skill points to carry forward even if it meant that the skill tree remained locked, but I will have to download the game again to give it a try. www.ea.com/games/starwars/jedi-fallen-order/news/free-content-updateI normally would be disappointed in the skills not transferring, but considering the story of the game and how its built I understand this time. I'm more than happy with us being able to transfer our cosmetics (plus Inquisitor Cal!). That is why I would have liked the skill points to carry forward. That way the skills remain locked until you unlock them during the game, it just means you have the entire tier when you reach the point in the story you unlock them.
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Post by saandrig on May 5, 2020 7:29:33 GMT
Also confirmation of a sequel is nice. *crosses fingers for more Merrin* It's literally the thing which decides if they will get my money or not. I would ask for Merrin to be the protagonist as Cal's apprentice, combining the witch magic with Force tricks, but I guess that's a bit too niche for the fanbase.
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Post by DragonKingReborn on May 5, 2020 7:57:27 GMT
Also confirmation of a sequel is nice. *crosses fingers for more Merrin* It's literally the thing which decides if they will get my money or not. I would ask for Merrin to be the protagonist as Cal's apprentice, combining the witch magic with Force tricks, but I guess that's a bit too niche for the fanbase. Fair enough. I’m not quite that adamant about it, myself. Her and Trilla were the best supporting characters in the game and well...Trilla seems a long shot as a returning character , so I’d definitely like to see more of her. Maybe even spend some time controlling her in a side mission. Rescue Cal, or something similar, as an example.
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Post by Energizer Bunny 211 on May 5, 2020 15:10:57 GMT
Also confirmation of a sequel is nice. *crosses fingers for more Merrin* They'rte making a sequel for Fallen Order?! YES!!!! When was this announced?????
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on May 5, 2020 17:00:44 GMT
Also confirmation of a sequel is nice. *crosses fingers for more Merrin* They'rte making a sequel for Fallen Order?! YES!!!! When was this announced????? A few days ago. It wasn’t a trailer or anything, just a “we are working on this” confirmation. Release date expected to be somewhere in 2022.
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Post by Energizer Bunny 211 on May 5, 2020 17:17:20 GMT
They'rte making a sequel for Fallen Order?! YES!!!! When was this announced????? A few days ago. It wasn’t a trailer or anything, just a “we are working on this” confirmation. Release date expected to be somewhere in 2022. Consider my money taken already; and I may even upgrade/rebuild my system by then depending on forth-coming system requirements, it will be six or seven years old by that time. But we'll wait and see. Right now I'm just glad to hear that they're planning a sequel because this game was amazing and the story deserves to be continued.
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It was one amazing game story wise and from a gameplay point of view, only the Jedi Knight series had the sae feeling when playing as a Jedi.
I really look forward to our heroes quartet in their next adventure.I wonder how far in the future they will set it.
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