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Post by opuspace on Mar 10, 2019 16:05:29 GMT
That's low, especially when vhenansequitur did nothing to deserve that. I don't think it's asking too much for other Solasmancers to be given a choice in resolving the plot a different way. Opuspace calm down will you? I’m (mostly) joking. You're making a joke at the expense of someone you called a friend and you know it upsets her deeply about Solas.
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Post by smilesja on Mar 10, 2019 16:06:50 GMT
I bathe in the tears of solomancers! Weekes drinks 'em. Top that. Diving In to a pool of tears like a man should!
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Post by Little Bengel on Mar 10, 2019 16:12:26 GMT
Weekes drinks 'em. Top that. Diving In to a pool of tears like a man should!
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Post by Sifr on Mar 10, 2019 16:13:14 GMT
I bathe in the tears of solomancers! Weekes drinks 'em. Top that. What do you think really created the Well of Sorrows?
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Post by pessimistpanda on Mar 10, 2019 17:08:07 GMT
I would friggin LOVE it if they killed Solas right at the start of the game, tbh. I like Solas but that'd be pretty great move from BioWare.....but the forum would drown in the tears of the Solasmancers I actually have no feelings about Solas at all. I didn't love him, and I don't feel betrayed by him. He helped me stop Corypheus, which was more than he was obliged to do, then he left, as was his right. The fact that he wants to destroy the world now is, as far as I'm concerned, an entirely separate issue. I see the feeling of betrayal that others experience as a misunderstanding of the situation. Not that I'm excusing him at all. He's a dick, as all aspiring world-destroyers are. But his past relationship with my Inquisitor is irrelevant. The reason I want Solas to die in the beginning is purely that I think that makes for a better story. He should die, either as a result of bringing down the veil, or at the hands of the Evanuris, who then proceed to become the main threat of the game. I would also be fine if this event killed the Inquisitor as well. The way I see it, we already had an entire game about preventing/repairing an assault on the Veil, and we don't need another one. I would have preferred to not continue on this plot thread at all, but if that's how it has to be, then the Veil should come down, and never go back up. Dragon Age was sold to us as the history of a world, not as a soap opera focused on specific characters. The Warden and Hawke have open-ended stories too. Why should the Inquisitor be any different? The expansions of the previous games left tons of dangling plot-threads that, even now, have never been resolved. I legitimately do not understand the particular attachment people have to Solas and the Inquisitor. Is it just because he was romanceable? If he had not been (as was supposedly originally intended), would anyone care now? Furthermore; people in this thread keep saying they want more "realism", well guess what. In real life, people's lives don't get tied up with neat little bows. They die suddenly, they leave unfinished business. Their character arcs are senselessly cut short. Deal with it.
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Post by Nightscrawl on Mar 10, 2019 18:03:18 GMT
I legitimately do not understand the particular attachment people have to Solas and the Inquisitor. Is it just because he was romanceable? If he had not been (as was supposedly originally intended), would anyone care now? Solasmancers are not the only ones who wouldn't mind seeing their Inquisitor again, you know. I don't give a damn about Solas. I also don't particularly like him. However, I do like my Inquisitor and think he has a continued vested interest in the goings on related to Solas. Regardless of anyone's headcanon, the final moments of Trespasser reveal that to be the case in the form of the Shadow Inquisition, in which the (possibly former) Inquisitor is still involved. People aren't pulling that out of thin air; it's in the actual game.
[edit] However, don't take this to mean that I want my Inquisitor as the next protagonist; I don't. But I would like to see that he's involved in some way, and possibly have a chance to control him at some point. I don't want another Hawke situation.
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Post by pessimistpanda on Mar 10, 2019 18:27:25 GMT
I legitimately do not understand the particular attachment people have to Solas and the Inquisitor. Is it just because he was romanceable? If he had not been (as was supposedly originally intended), would anyone care now? Solasmancers are not the only ones who wouldn't mind seeing their Inquisitor again, you know. I don't give a damn about Solas. I also don't particularly like him. However, I do like my Inquisitor and think he has a continued vested interest in the goings on related to Solas. Regardless of anyone's headcanon, the final moments of Trespasser reveal that to be the case in the form of the Shadow Inquisition, in which the (possibly former) Inquisitor is still involved. People aren't pulling that out of thin air; it's in the actual game.
[edit] However, don't take this to mean that I want my Inquisitor as the next protagonist; I don't. But I would like to see that he's involved in some way, and possibly have a chance to control him at some point. I don't want another Hawke situation.
Yeah, I played the same DLC as everyone else and I still don't get it. Awakening had the massively world-changing revelation of intelligent darkspawn, and left the fates of several characters unresolved. Witch Hunt also ends on a fairly massive cliffhanger, no matter what you choose. But we've never seen or heard from the warden again. The DLC for 2 introduced Corypheus and made it preeeeeeetty clear to the audience that he had not been completely destroyed, but Hawke didn't end up being the one who dealt with that, or with the dangling plot threads about red lyrium and what it does. Given the established pattern, I simply do not see anything that necessitates that the Inquisitor return as the protagonist, or even the dual-protagonist of a second game. In some capacity, maybe, though I'd prefer not. Roughly twenty years have passed from the start of Origins to the end of Trespasser, and for all we know this new game is set years after that. They could easily kill the Inquisitor off-screen.
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Post by colfoley on Mar 10, 2019 18:33:05 GMT
I legitimately do not understand the particular attachment people have to Solas and the Inquisitor. Is it just because he was romanceable? If he had not been (as was supposedly originally intended), would anyone care now? Solasmancers are not the only ones who wouldn't mind seeing their Inquisitor again, you know. I don't give a damn about Solas. I also don't particularly like him. However, I do like my Inquisitor and think he has a continued vested interest in the goings on related to Solas. Regardless of anyone's headcanon, the final moments of Trespasser reveal that to be the case in the form of the Shadow Inquisition, in which the (possibly former) Inquisitor is still involved. People aren't pulling that out of thin air; it's in the actual game.
[edit] However, don't take this to mean that I want my Inquisitor as the next protagonist; I don't. But I would like to see that he's involved in some way, and possibly have a chance to control him at some point. I don't want another Hawke situation.
The inquisitors adventuring days are over though.
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Post by Nightscrawl on Mar 10, 2019 18:33:26 GMT
They could easily kill the Inquisitor off-screen. Meh, I doubt they'll do that. Even if they never mention the Inquisitor again outside of random dialogue references, that fate for them seems unlikely. Even with Hawke, the player had the choice. In addition, Weekes has said that he wants to give closure to Solas/Lavellan. Doesn't mean it will happen, of course, but it's something he wants to do. I can already see you snarking that "death is the ultimate closure," but you know damn well that that is not what he meant in answering the question, regardless of how many fan tears he enjoys drinking.
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Post by Nightscrawl on Mar 10, 2019 18:34:23 GMT
The inquisitors adventuring days are over though. I know of that line of dialogue. That's optional dialogue that not everyone hears. It means very little to me.
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Post by colfoley on Mar 10, 2019 18:40:12 GMT
The inquisitors adventuring days are over though. I know of that line of dialogue. That's optional dialogue that not everyone hears. It means very little to me. ah. Either way the point stands. I expect the Inquisitor to appear in the final confrontation but little beyond that.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Mar 10, 2019 18:41:32 GMT
The inquisitors adventuring days are over though. I know of that line of dialogue. That's optional dialogue that not everyone hears. It means very little to me. Yep. The Inquisitor can at that moment also say that they are going to save the world again. Plus we see in a later scene that that line is clearly just a cover.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Mar 10, 2019 18:42:52 GMT
I know of that line of dialogue. That's optional dialogue that not everyone hears. It means very little to me. ah. Either way the point stands. I expect the Inquisitor to appear in the final confrontation but little beyond that. Then I expect my money to not appear to get the game.
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Post by Little Bengel on Mar 10, 2019 18:48:10 GMT
Arguments within arguments regarding DA4's protagonist, and I see the camp that would be fine with the Inquisitor in a Ciri-like role has next to no voices...
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Post by Nightscrawl on Mar 10, 2019 18:53:46 GMT
Arguments within arguments regarding DA4's protagonist, and I see the camp that would be fine with the Inquisitor in a Ciri-like role has next to no voices... I'd be fine with that, from what I know of it. I haven't played W3, so it's not forefront in my mind when I think of the DA4 protagonist. If the Inquisitor appears, I want to be able to control him.
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Post by wright1978 on Mar 10, 2019 18:56:56 GMT
As long as I get the option to see the inquisitor die i’ll Be happy
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Mar 10, 2019 18:58:24 GMT
Arguments within arguments regarding DA4's protagonist, and I see the camp that would be fine with the Inquisitor in a Ciri-like role has next to no voices... Eh, you barely get to play as her in the game. Dual protagonist is something I’d tolerate, but I want it more evenly spread out than that.
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Post by Little Bengel on Mar 10, 2019 19:02:39 GMT
Arguments within arguments regarding DA4's protagonist, and I see the camp that would be fine with the Inquisitor in a Ciri-like role has next to no voices... I'd be fine with that, from what I know of it. I haven't played W3, so it's not forefront in my mind with I think of the DA4 protagonist. If the Inquisitor appears, I want to be able to control him. I honestly think it's an acceptable compromise, as Dragon Age games have always shifted from protagonist to protagonist, each game telling one protagonist's story. I expect DA4 to be no different in introducing a new character in the world. However, given the massive relevance Solas is set to have, people will want to go back to controlling the Inquisitor. It would also establish a funny parallel with W3 in that the the "chosen one" (Ciri/Inquisitor) is only controllable at specific moments in the story while the "secondary" character (Geralt/New Protag) is the one we follow for the bulk of the story.
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Post by Nightscrawl on Mar 10, 2019 19:05:55 GMT
Noooo you quoted me before I fixed my typo!
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Post by Little Bengel on Mar 10, 2019 19:09:23 GMT
Noooo you quoted me before I fixed my typo! If it's any consolation, I can't find a typo in the quote. EDIT: Nevermind... found it.
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Post by Sifr on Mar 10, 2019 19:12:55 GMT
Arguments within arguments regarding DA4's protagonist, and I see the camp that would be fine with the Inquisitor in a Ciri-like role has next to no voices... I'd prefer the Inquisitor's appearance to be something similar to Hawke's role in Inquisition. An extended cameo where they help out with one of our main quests that happens to align with something they were already doing, which once finished, has them then bow out of the story.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Mar 10, 2019 19:17:14 GMT
Arguments within arguments regarding DA4's protagonist, and I see the camp that would be fine with the Inquisitor in a Ciri-like role has next to no voices... I'd prefer the Inquisitor's appearance to be something similar to Hawke's role in Inquisition. An extended cameo where they help out with one of our main quests that happens to align with something they were already doing, which once finished, has them then bow out of the story.
Please no. I do not want the travesty that was inflicted on Hawke now inflicted on the Inquisitor. BioWare always ruins protagonists when turned into NPCs.
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Post by Little Bengel on Mar 10, 2019 19:24:44 GMT
Arguments within arguments regarding DA4's protagonist, and I see the camp that would be fine with the Inquisitor in a Ciri-like role has next to no voices... I'd prefer the Inquisitor's appearance to be something similar to Hawke's role in Inquisition. An extended cameo where they help out with one of our main quests that happens to align with something they were already doing, which once finished, has them then bow out of the story.
I'd be okay with that as well. Maybe expand a bit on that.
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Post by Sifr on Mar 10, 2019 19:33:48 GMT
Please no. I do not want the travesty that was inflicted on Hawke now inflicted on the Inquisitor. BioWare always ruins protagonists when turned into NPCs. I'm not a fan of being able to kill off Hawke in the Fade, nor how they got them out of the story, but they got a larger role than I expected.
I know some people want the Inquisitor back, but if we couldn't take the Warden to Kirkwall or have Hawke as the Inquisitor, then why now forego a new protagonist in lieu of another game with the Inquisitor?
I loved playing as the Inquisitor, but another game with them as the protagonist would be dull, given how Trespasser concluded their story (for the most part). They can still appear, but let someone else have the spotlight.
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