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Post by Vortex13 on May 9, 2019 19:51:46 GMT
A sequel to Wildlands coming out in October.
Looks good, nice improvements to the first game. Not gonna lie though, I want the drones the bad guys have. I have robo-evny just looking at them
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Post by SGT NOOBSTER on May 9, 2019 20:25:02 GMT
Very nice, I figured something was coming up for Ghost Recon with OP Oracle. Even with how short it was, it was pretty heavy handed in the "something new is coming." And I agree with you Vortex13 it does look like a nice improvement on Wildlands.
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Post by SofaJockey on May 9, 2019 20:31:49 GMT
Excellent to open this thread.
I rather enjoyed Wildlands, I'll be very likely to be playing this one.
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Post by colfoley on May 9, 2019 23:07:52 GMT
Damn you guys beat me by like...two hours... Haven't seen the trailers yet but I did read up on it and pretty much my reactions were..."well they probably won't make it an RP...wait...classes...DIALOGUE CHOICES?!" To paraphrase a certain quarterback for the Atlanta Falcons...GET FECKING HYPED! I cannot wait for this game to come out but sadly it does look like I won't be able to get this and Anthem.
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Post by Vortex13 on May 10, 2019 11:41:39 GMT
Damn you guys beat me by like...two hours... Haven't seen the trailers yet but I did read up on it and pretty much my reactions were..."well they probably won't make it an RP...wait...classes...DIALOGUE CHOICES?!" To paraphrase a certain quarterback for the Atlanta Falcons...GET FECKING HYPED! I cannot wait for this game to come out but sadly it does look like I won't be able to get this and Anthem. Do you already have Anthem? Because if you don't I personally see no reason to purchase that game considering the state it's in, and when compared to a content complete game like Breakpoint looks to be. (IMO)
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Post by AnDromedary on May 10, 2019 18:48:15 GMT
Hmmmm, to be honest, the announcement didn't sound that great to me.
I though Wildlands was ok for a few hours but got very repetitive very fast and without a decent story, I lost interest very quickly. This looks like mostly just more of the same. Even the world doesn't really look that different.
Having a decent actor play the villain seems like a step in the right direction but it only helps if there is a decent story and in a Ubisoft coop game, I'll believe that when I see it and that whole "guy with tech company builds drone army" premise doesn't exactly sound inspired either. The major other new feature - the survival mechanics and the crafting - turn me off if anything. There have been too many games iwth added survual mechanics already and crafting makes things worse in games most of the time.
So this really doesn't sound like my cup o' tea. Would have rather liked to see a new Splinter Cell.
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Post by SGT NOOBSTER on May 10, 2019 22:22:09 GMT
Hmmmm, to be honest, the announcement didn't sound that great to me. I though Wildlands was ok for a few hours but got very repetitive very fast and without a decent story, I lost interest very quickly. This looks like mostly just more of the same. Even the world doesn't really look that different. Having a decent actor play the villain seems like a step in the right direction but it only helps if there is a decent story and in a Ubisoft coop game, I'll believe that when I see it and that whole "guy with tech company builds drone army" premise doesn't exactly sound inspired either. The major other new feature - the survival mechanics and the crafting - turn me off if anything. There have been too many games iwth added survual mechanics already and crafting makes things worse in games most of the time. So this really doesn't sound like my cup o' tea. Would have rather liked to see a new Splinter Cell. Wildlands did start off a little repetitive, but they kind of learned some lessons w/ Division 1 and it got better with new Ops, side missions, expansions/ DLCs, and PvP. I liked the game from the start, but it is better now than it was at release. Breakpoint looks to follow pretty close in the events of Wildlands, so I think a big change of setting would be more jarring (such as going from Bolivia to Sub-Saharan Africa). I don't mind the "tech guy builds a drone army" idea, for the moment. It just needs to be executed in a decent manner to not come across as "meh." I mentioned to a friend of mine that I think the survival and crafting may be similar to how it is in Red Dead R2; it's there and has buffs/ debuffs, or allows for special items, but it is not entirely essential. And a new Splinter Cell would be nice too.
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Post by Vortex13 on May 14, 2019 16:27:48 GMT
Some background info for the game. Gotta say I'm a bit 'meh' about it. Granted Tom Clancy games, the Ghost Recon series in particular, haven't been known for their stellar narratives but this plot hook does seem a little overdone at this point. The whole "automated technology is bad!" troupe has only been used in media for the past decade and a half so this part of the game's setup does seem rather by the numbers. At least Wildlands touched on something comparatively nuanced with the drug cartels. It would be interesting if we could instead get a new perspective on such a storyline; one that doesn't automatically assume the worst of rising drone technologies and AI systems. Honestly, I would take playing as swarm of AI driven drones over playing as a squishy meat bag in a video game like this in a heartbeat
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Post by Obsidian Gryphon on Jun 11, 2019 0:29:10 GMT
They seem to be hinting at a Terminator crossover in the Ghost Recon presentation.
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Post by colfoley on Jun 11, 2019 1:19:36 GMT
So as per the E3 presentation they are adding AI squadmates to the game for the solo players. Can Offline play be far behind?
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Post by colfoley on Jun 13, 2019 22:00:29 GMT
Damn if this game doesn't look good. Will this be the first AO game to actually be worth the time and money?
It also shows off two interesting things. First off it shows off the dialogue system which is pretty big standard but it is nice to see in a GR game... and a AO game to boot. The couple of cutscene already showed off more actual potential for story then all of Wildlands combined.
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Post by colfoley on Sept 7, 2019 1:15:58 GMT
So the beta is now live and have been getting a lot of good and juicy details and information and videos.
Looks fairly solid so far. The CC is servicable. Don't expect MUCH more then that from a quasi MMO shooter but it is something that I do appreciate (though the custimizable gear is how you will really distinguish your character)...just slap some sliders on it and maybe more control of the eyes and you could have a good CC for DA 4. What I have seen from the gameplay isn't too bad. The enemy (other then the drones) don't seem too tanky so far at least anymore then any RPG should be...at least when he is fighting them close to his level. Butit could be interesting and dosen't seem too video gamey. My concern though is of course this whole levelling and 'gear level' thing. In Wildlands you didn't have to worry about enemy levels per se but during the live stream of his he got taken down in 3 rounds by a level 150 Wolf...which seems really high up there. So plenty of questions abound but even if I just stick the game on Easy that could be a way of mitigating the bull shittery. I still haven't seen anything really on its 'dialogue system'which they said will be in the game and the levelling system. The cosmetic system annoys me from an immersion standpoint but whatever, I'll still use (abuse) the crap out of the system anyways. Just curious if you even have to unlock gear to use it in this game...
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Post by SofaJockey on Sept 7, 2019 23:35:58 GMT
Trying the beta. I rather enjoy action-RPG-shooters, so I'm enjoying this. Probably moreso than that 'serious tactical shooter' crowd, some of whom seem rather less happy. Choices.
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Post by SofaJockey on Sept 8, 2019 7:11:28 GMT
Ok, I'm done with the Beta, not because I didn't enjoy it, quite the reverse, I'm looking forward to playing it next month, but I don't want to be spoiled further. There's a fair amount of wailing from the 'I want a military sim / tactical shooter' crowd, upset that GRB isn't that, claiming it's therefore a bad game. I think there is much to enjoy here, but it does appear more of a 'mainstream' game than the franchise has delivered before.
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Post by colfoley on Sept 9, 2019 3:17:24 GMT
Perks you say? Perks! Now this puts my mind at ease on another thing. Everyone knows how much I just loooovvvvee my classes , but it turns out the classes are just a small list of passives and a unique equipment stuff...nothing major. Also curious about how the whole perk slot system will work. But I can't wait to test this system out for myself and see how it all works...looks like there is a lot of goodies in there to keep one playing for a long arse time.
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Post by bizantura on Oct 2, 2019 8:43:35 GMT
As much as I enjoyed Wildlands I will not endorse this MTX and pay to win infested excuse of a game.
Curious if Breakpoint will be the template for all their established franchises. Rather enjoyed as a Ubisoft latecomer FC5 and both RPG AC games. Well, this was the last AAA to succumb fully to the greed trend already established by Activision, EA, Bethesda, and the likes.
Up to the AA and to a lesser extent maybe indies.
This hobby is getting tedious sheerly due to finding a game to play that still has more creativity than MTX/pay to win mechanics!
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Post by cankiie on Oct 2, 2019 17:06:37 GMT
From what I understand this very game proves the point I made in regards to Assassin's Creed: Odyssey and the state of gaming in general in recent years. Microtransactions may start out mild... but it will... get... worse Ubisoft, welcome to the club of crashing businesses, you can now properly join EA and Activision-blizzard.
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Post by colfoley on Oct 2, 2019 19:01:19 GMT
It's not pay to win.
Wildlands had just as many microtransactions. Even worse ones really considering all of Breakpoints are cosmetic. Wildlands had full weapons hidden behind a paywall.
Once more misinformation spreads very quickly.
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Post by cankiie on Oct 2, 2019 20:07:16 GMT
It's not pay to win. Wildlands had just as many microtransactions. Even worse ones really considering all of Breakpoints are cosmetic. Wildlands had full weapons hidden behind a paywall. Once more misinformation spreads very quickly. www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2019/10/01/ghost-recon-breakpoint-has-a-hilarious-amount-of-microtransactions/#36320e563940I wonder about that. Link includes a lot of pictures. Misinformation or an attempt to excuse microtransactions yet again. It happened with AC: Odyssey "BUT IT IS NOT GRINDEY!" true, maybe not after you bought it since the developers ended up changing the entire XP gain curve due to lots of initial complaints. Ubisoft seems to follow the same path that EA did with Battlefront 2, just a shame that Ubisoft is not dealing with a franchise as big as Star Wars, they might have actually been slammed far more than now, it could be humbling for Ubisoft... that might have been good. Also, at the end of the day, cosmetic only microtransactions are ALSO a problem as it will eventually boil down to the biggest problem with microtransactions... it is too much growth too quickly. It will always only get worse, the demand for increased growth next year will also only increase, jobs will be lost to save money, developement time will be shortened to save money, the games will be further developed with a focus on increasing market-place spending rather than being entertaining, the microtransactions will become increasingly egregious due to having to force more players to spend money at the market-place. Microtransactions are never good.
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Post by colfoley on Oct 2, 2019 20:18:04 GMT
It's not pay to win. Wildlands had just as many microtransactions. Even worse ones really considering all of Breakpoints are cosmetic. Wildlands had full weapons hidden behind a paywall. Once more misinformation spreads very quickly. www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2019/10/01/ghost-recon-breakpoint-has-a-hilarious-amount-of-microtransactions/#36320e563940I wonder about that. Link includes a lot of pictures. Misinformation or an attempt to excuse microtransactions yet again. It happened with AC: Odyssey "BUT IT IS NOT GRINDEY!" true, maybe not after you bought it since the developers ended up changing the entire XP gain curve due to lots of initial complaints. Ubisoft seems to follow the same path that EA did with Battlefront 2, just a shame that Ubisoft is not dealing with a franchise as big as Star Wars, they might have actually been slammed far more than now, it could be humbling for Ubisoft... that might have been good. Also, at the end of the day, cosmetic only microtransactions are ALSO a problem as it will eventually boil down to the biggest problem with microtransactions... it is too much growth too quickly. It will always only get worse, the demand for increased growth next year will also only increase, jobs will be lost to save money, developement time will be shortened to save money, the games will be further developed with a focus on increasing market-place spending rather than being entertaining, the microtransactions will become increasingly egregious due to having to force more players to spend money at the market-place. Microtransactions are never good. I had to stop reading when I got to 'sure you can grind for this stuff in game's. That's the entire point. To play the game. If you don't want to play the game you can spend your hard earned money. But its entirely optional. Goodness only in MTXs do gamers whine about having more options. Also from where I sit this, so far,seems to be less intrusive then either Oddyseys or Wildlands. As for them never being a good thing... I've never met an MTX I haven't liked (or at least tolerated) and they are getting better and less intrusive all the time.
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Post by colfoley on Oct 2, 2019 21:01:07 GMT
Regardless of the MTX element of the game my time with the Beta was a bit bi polar. There are things I really liked about it, and things I didn't. Things that indicate it could be better then Wildlands...and things that indicate it could be worse. But there is just something addictive about it to where I can't wait to play it.
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Post by colfoley on Oct 4, 2019 1:16:54 GMT
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Post by SofaJockey on Oct 4, 2019 6:52:08 GMT
I'm hugely enjoying this (24 hours in). I think it's an improvement on Wildlands. The concerns about MTX are pretty meaningless as there appears to be zero necessity to even enter the paid 'store' and much of the complaining about the game is not focused on the game itself but on it not being a different game that some players would have preferred to play.
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