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Post by colfoley on Oct 4, 2019 7:21:00 GMT
I'm hugely enjoying this (24 hours in). I think it's an improvement on Wildlands. The concerns about MTX are pretty meaningless as there appears to be zero necessity to even enter the paid 'store' and much of the complaining about the game is not focused on the game itself but on it not being a different game that some players would have preferred to play.  Granted aside from the MTX stuff I haven't seen or really paid attention to a lot of the criticism videos and arguments... But a lot of the people/ Youtubers that are playing it seem to be really enjoying it and pouring the time in the game. I was shocked to discover that two of the youtubers I have been following over this game so far just seem to be putting a lot of time in. One finished the 'main campaign' and both of them had over a hundred gear score. And I'm not getting it until November most likely. 
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Post by saandrig on Oct 4, 2019 9:00:31 GMT
I'm hugely enjoying this (24 hours in). I think it's an improvement on Wildlands. The concerns about MTX are pretty meaningless as there appears to be zero necessity to even enter the paid 'store' and much of the complaining about the game is not focused on the game itself but on it not being a different game that some players would have preferred to play.  Granted aside from the MTX stuff I haven't seen or really paid attention to a lot of the criticism videos and arguments... But a lot of the people/ Youtubers that are playing it seem to be really enjoying it and pouring the time in the game. I was shocked to discover that two of the youtubers I have been following over this game so far just seem to be putting a lot of time in. One finished the 'main campaign' and both of them had over a hundred gear score. And I'm not getting it until November most likely.  So, what is this game's best content actually in your opinion? Never played any of these and can't quite understand the popularity. Is it the PvP? Co-op? If I am usually just "play the SP portions" of such games, would it be worth it to experience the story (if there is one)?
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Post by colfoley on Oct 4, 2019 9:21:54 GMT
Granted aside from the MTX stuff I haven't seen or really paid attention to a lot of the criticism videos and arguments... But a lot of the people/ Youtubers that are playing it seem to be really enjoying it and pouring the time in the game. I was shocked to discover that two of the youtubers I have been following over this game so far just seem to be putting a lot of time in. One finished the 'main campaign' and both of them had over a hundred gear score. And I'm not getting it until November most likely.  So, what is this game's best content actually in your opinion? Never played any of these and can't quite understand the popularity. Is it the PvP? Co-op? If I am usually just "play the SP portions" of such games, would it be worth it to experience the story (if there is one)? Good and complicated question. First off Breakpoint is not anything like your typical BioWare fare...at least not yet. No companion characters and limited RP opprotunities (which were just introduced in Breakpoint) and what seems like so far a pretty basic story...which then seems more complicated then Wildlands. This is not an RPG, in short, but then I hope that Breakpoint could be an indication that we could get a *proper* modern day Spec Ops RPG shooter....which is something I have always wanted ever since I first started playing RPGs...there is a lot of interesting morally gray situations that anyone working Special Operations or Counter Terrorism would have to deal with. As far as what itches Ghost Recon has that other games don't within the genre? Well mainly two fold, but it also has a few things that set it apart from its compeition (namely BF and COD). It is much larger and actually seems to have a pretty hearty campaign (bang for your buck) and its third person compared to first person...which I always prefer. Aside from that though Wildlands was just fun and it seems Breakpoint continues on with that. There is something just addictive about its gameplay and it scratches a very different itch then Bioware...but still. Even when you are doing, at least in Wildlands, a lot of the same types of missions over and over again it still never looses that fun factor. Its hard to quantify exactly how they achieve it, but it does. And Breakpoint, from my brief experience with the game, is even more varied the Wildlands in what you can do. Different tactical puzzles and a lot more to think about when completing your missions coupled with a more varied mission structure (more to do) coupled with an actual story this time. The second thing is the co op. I often claim that nothing quite ruins a game then haivng to play it with other people, but Wildlands was an exception for that brief moment I had a PSPlus I could play it with friends and share in that experience and it was fun. Most video games these days seem to advocate and push for PVP or have very vaccous co op play...but again Wildlands just did it right. Maybe it was its lack of story that helped it along here and maybe it helped that I had a dedicated group of friends that I only played with a couple of times, but still no randos...but it really helped. Now if this game is for you? I can't say. I don't know enough about you to make an honest recommendation but since I have always been a fan of and interested in spy stuff, American Military, Special Operations Stories, Counter Terrorism, and shooters in general...these games are a lot more up my alley. But that is the experience that Ghost Recon seems to cater to...the 'itch that it scratches.' I can't say enough about the quality of the writing in it yet and nor can I say how it will handle entirely as a SP experience since the co op for this game is being so heavily emphasized...its probbaly possible to play it and enjoy yourself with just you and your AI squad (when they add them) but the idea here does seem to get a squad together and enjoy it with other people.
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Post by SofaJockey on Oct 4, 2019 13:28:11 GMT
So, what is this game's best content actually in your opinion? Never played any of these and can't quite understand the popularity. Is it the PvP? Co-op? If I am usually just "play the SP portions" of such games, would it be worth it to experience the story (if there is one)? Let's try to answer. I don't touch PVP at all and I'm playing 90% solo. It scratches an open-world conquering itch. Building your power and gear and stuff, taking enemy outposts and becoming tougher with skills and weapon development. There is certainly a story, with some light-RPG touches. You'll recognize its familial relationship to Assassin's Creed, Watch Dogs, and Far Cry. The world is huge, there are hundreds of hours to enjoy in here going from zero to here.
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Post by bizantura on Oct 4, 2019 19:42:08 GMT
It's not pay to win. Wildlands had just as many microtransactions. Even worse ones really considering all of Breakpoints are cosmetic. Wildlands had full weapons hidden behind a paywall. Once more misinformation spreads very quickly. I have no problem with gamers who enjoy the game despite MTX.
Misinformation, no. Ubisoft made changes and for now removed certain Timesavers MTX.
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Post by colfoley on Oct 4, 2019 20:40:59 GMT
saandrigBeen thinking about it more considering I found my initial answer to you to be vague. I got it narrowed down to two factors: 1. Its tactical element. It engages my brain and makes me think about situations. Where even if the mission objectives are largely the same how you go about accomplishing them. You can have to capture a target by infiltrating a factory or by sniping a car before going into stop him or by making him panic then setting up an ambush down the road. This is doubly so for the sniping. I'm a huge fan of sniping in games but all shooters I played before Recon only had a range of 200 meters max...which is absurd for snipers. Recon let me plug targets 700 meters away. 2. It does both parts of its GP well. The in the shit bullets flying everywhere is heartpoundung while the stealth is tense, hoping your bullet hits the target four hundred meters away is tense. And both make the game really fun.
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Post by colfoley on Oct 5, 2019 6:56:10 GMT
So...I broke down and bought it. I was weak.
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Post by SofaJockey on Oct 5, 2019 18:40:10 GMT
40 hours in, I'm loving it. Yes, it's very 'Ubisoft' with oodles of content. Enjoying running female Nomad with Alex Wilton Regan's dulcet tones (though from the hub, I'd say only 1/20 runs a female character).  I see it's getting a pasting from reviewers, which I find beyond irrational.
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Post by colfoley on Oct 5, 2019 20:21:28 GMT
40 hours in, I'm loving it. Yes, it's very 'Ubisoft' with oodles of content. Enjoying running female Nomad with Alex Wilton Regan's dulcet tones (though from the hub, I'd say only 1/20 runs a female character).  I see it's getting a pasting from reviewers, which I find beyond irrational. what?! Nomad is AWR? It didn't sound like her! Now I kinda regret my choice for Male Nomad for MP purposes.
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Post by saandrig on Oct 6, 2019 10:49:10 GMT
Enjoying running female Nomad with Alex Wilton Regan's dulcet tones (though from the hub, I'd say only 1/20 runs a female character). You are trying to make me get the game, don't you?
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Post by colfoley on Oct 6, 2019 12:42:51 GMT
Enjoying running female Nomad with Alex Wilton Regan's dulcet tones (though from the hub, I'd say only 1/20 runs a female character). You are trying to make me get the game, don't you? well I just got off a four hour session so...
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Post by Obsidian Gryphon on Oct 7, 2019 0:03:34 GMT
Enjoying running female Nomad with Alex Wilton Regan's dulcet tones (though from the hub, I'd say only 1/20 runs a female character). You are trying to make me get the game, don't you? I'm curious as to whether the game can be completed without MTX aka ACOD.
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Post by colfoley on Oct 7, 2019 4:00:58 GMT
You are trying to make me get the game, don't you? I'm curious as to whether the game can be completed without MTX aka ACOD. That it definitley can. Hell if anything right now Breakpoint's is less invasive.
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You are trying to make me get the game, don't you? I'm curious as to whether the game can be completed without MTX aka ACOD. Of course it can.
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Post by SofaJockey on Oct 7, 2019 19:09:50 GMT
I looked in the MTX store, the only thing remotely appealing was a good looking T-shirt, and I can earn a similar one by completing some battle tiers. She's doing 'American'....
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Post by colfoley on Oct 7, 2019 20:00:23 GMT
I looked in the MTX store, the only thing remotely appealing was a good looking T-shirt, and I can earn a similar one by completing some battle tiers. She's doing 'American'.... aww... that explains it. 
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Post by saandrig on Oct 7, 2019 20:39:09 GMT
I looked in the MTX store, the only thing remotely appealing was a good looking T-shirt, and I can earn a similar one by completing some battle tiers. She's doing 'American'.... Eww
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Post by Obsidian Gryphon on Oct 8, 2019 1:48:21 GMT
I'm curious as to whether the game can be completed without MTX aka ACOD. That it definitley can. Hell if anything right now Breakpoint's is less invasive. If it's so, I'll wait for a sale. I'm in no hurry.
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Post by SofaJockey on Oct 10, 2019 17:01:47 GMT
Do I want the 'beardy baseball cap' Nomad look? Nope, I found me a stetson... 
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Post by colfoley on Oct 10, 2019 19:38:39 GMT
*sees the metacritic scores...listens to someone say 'aggressive micro transactions'...pulls hair out'
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Post by correctamundo on Oct 12, 2019 8:42:03 GMT
*sees the metacritic scores...listens to someone say 'aggressive micro transactions'...pulls hair out' Whatever you do, don't listen to the trolls.
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Post by colfoley on Oct 13, 2019 6:35:15 GMT
Anyone know of the best place to go to make suggestions, there are a few QoL improvements I'd think would make the game a lot better.
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Post by correctamundo on Oct 13, 2019 8:40:15 GMT
Anyone know of the best place to go to make suggestions, there are a few QoL improvements I'd think would make the game a lot better. Most likely official forums. just stay out of gen disc because it is littered with trolls.  Oh, sofa is there with a voice of reason as well. But you know fighting windmills is pointless.
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Post by correctamundo on Oct 13, 2019 8:42:06 GMT
 ...and the twat skillup gets a piece of the pie.
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