Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon: Breakpoint

I wasn't expecting to reach max level already with only doing one main mission.

Curious how Breakpoint is another huge and detailed world, with an enjoyable gameplay arc.

Yet the game media narrative is that because Ubi didn't make a tactical shooter (and included missable MTX's) that the game they did make is trash.

I find the logical disconnect staggering as well as more than enough people on the internet willing to be upset with you if you don't agree with how shit it is.

People...

Honestly I am not a huge fan of Open World yet...but A. Ubisoft has gotten the open world formulae down...and B. Honestly I think Open World goes with the 'tactical shooter' genre like bread and butter and to think if anything its hardware limitations that is probably holding it back from being the tactical shooter it could be. Sure the previous games might've had more coherent story (don't know haven't played them) but in an Open World I can snipe people from 5-700 meters. Five times a foot ball field, half a kilometer, I can just sit there and take out anything I can see before moving in for the kill. Plus with it being Open World that means there is so many different ways to tackle these bases and scenarios depending on who you are, what your loadout is, and what you do. And Breakpoint has taken all of that from Wildlands and expanded on it. I read one review where they were like 'they added nothing to Wildlands and only added things from other Ubisoft franchises that weren't needed'...say what now?

SofaJockey

Probably a long shot but if I could bother you for a favor?

Since you have an account on the Ubisoft forums and I do not I did really want to suggest one quality of life improvement that could make the game interesting. Granted they'll probably never go for it and I have no idea the technical limitations involved...but its been bugging me.

So not only would I like them, at the bare minimum, to include the proper calibres of the weapons involved...instead of their weird inaccurate calbres...but it might be an even better idea to have weapons that are chambered for different rounds to be able to switch between them. Which could then be used to switch between them to customize your weaponsand come with certain pros and cons.

I'm sure there is someone who could post the original blog article from Ubi too but a lot more interesting news on the Breakpoint stuff. Though it is sad that even the Youtubers that are (apparently) enjoying the game are even commenting on the backlash and it seems to be maybe getting them down a bit.

But anyways first things first, the kind of optional aspects they are bringing to the game. Great. I think more ways to customize your game is always appreciated and am really looking forward to it. Them especially talking about looking at ways of removing the tiered loot would be...also...greatly appreciated. I mean like most inventory systems I can put up with it but it is annoying and every once in a while it really reminds me it is *there*. Changing the ingame economy though...sounds a lot more vague and especially problematic.

The survival aspects. I think BP has hit it out of the part, by and large, with what they have done so far...but I do know people that do actually like survival games so again it will be curious how that is implemented properly.

And finally...AI teamates. One of the reasons I went ahead with buying BP in the first place was even though I like 'team' games the 'squd' in Wildlands was largely...cardboard cutout filler. Which is why I was so surprised when I found out they actually did cast brand new Voice Actresses for the female squad after the game...I mean just...wow. But there was no way to really distinguish between them, they were hardly their own characters, they were just 'there', place holders for the people who did not want to do MP and just synch shot drones...which since they had those in BP it wasn't a huge deal that they didn't have them...though personally I hope they actually make the squad more fleshed out and distinguishable next this time and I hope this is one reason they are taking their time with it.

So yeah, LS games, a blessing...and a curse.

bit of a bizarre metaphor but then it depends on how fun the "work" is...no?

Hell in this example we're equating XP to money so it also depends on the value of a single experience point. For instance 50 XP when it takes a million to level up is not that valuable, but if it only takes a hundred...

Bottom line on this note, I've already maxed my character. Actually I'm a bit annoyed on how easy it was.

I am really curious to see where you are getting your data from becauseit completly flies in the face of my experience with these games:

In ME 1 it took me 3 40 hour playthroughs to get to max level. (OK about halfway through but we're still talking about 100 hours).

In Breakpoint its absurdly easy to get experience. From doing various missions, to killing bad guys, to even picking up sugars for crying out loud. And that is not even touching all the things you can do to gain XP faster. It took me about 40 hours to reach max level in Breakpoint...about half as fast.

And it was a similar experience in Odyssyey...sans getting xp from flower picking.

have you played Breakpoint?

Let's see. A tactical shooter that is not known for RPG elements, normally has offline single-player is hamstrung with MMO features that no one in the core fanbase asked for. How the fuck is that a "logical disconnect" from the Ghost Recon fanbase?

This is Old Republic in a Ghost Recon skin.

Wrong. The core fanbase complained about it since announcement, and UbiSoft ignored them. This is Resident Evil 6 all over again. The fact that UbiSoft never bothers learning about their competition tells me they are in their own little bubble when it comes to being aware of the gaming industry at large. The core fanbase is what keeps them financially afloat. If they like the game well enough, they will spread the word to their friends and family. If not, the company suffers a PR shitstorm and suffer lost sales. Seriously, are you that freaking blind? This is the same bullshit that gave us ME3 (i.e. Let's add in a Gears of War Horde Mode, even if it means our single player portion suffers for it.)

No, I don't buy this argument.

All this talk of 'core fanbase' smacks of rank entitlement.

Ubisoft decides what games they make, then it's up to consumers to buy or not as they wish. Ubisoft has to gamble that it makes a good game of course.

There's a significant portion of gamers (within the significant portion who are unhappy) that are behaving like spoiled toddlers.

Incidentally, the multiplayer was arguably the most successful part of ME3, certainly financially, and still the finest co-op multiplayer I've ever played.

Back when I first watched a Lets Play of AC: Black Flag my initial reaction was 'looks great, but man I wish there was dialogue options to control what Kenway was saying'. Granted I was pretty new to the whole RPG thing...and quite enamored...but then Odyssey came out and I found out 'hey cool they are making an AC RPG'...I picked it up and had a blast. Stellar combat, great story, solid characters, limited grind , the RP was a bit lacking but not bad for a first attempt.

I have been wanting a modern day tactical shooter/ Spec Ops RPG almost since I first discovered the term and started playing them. There hasn't been...but given Breakpoint and Wildlands I hope that we will soon get a proper RPG set in the Ghost Recon verse with actual special forces and high stakes decisions. I picked up Wildlands on a lark and enjoyed the crap out of it. And Breakpoint...while they it has its new mechanics and twists on the formulae from Wildlands...and while it has its flaws (like all games) I see nothing radically different from Wildlands to justify the blowback.

As far as the Entitlement argument is concerned...everyone is entitled to their point of view...however every single game company, every single video game ever developped, is constantly battling between keeping their core audience...but also expanding their business...so they can make money. I feel genuine distress they went too far in a couple of ways for you, but I just do not agree. Its a slightly more RPGed up version of Wildlands, hopefully they fix the Tiered loot and it can really be the game that I know it can be.

As far as MP. I tend to agree with you, traditionally I don't like MP however as long as its optional...and cooperative...I don't see the issue inherently. GR:B, believe me, is just as functional as a SP experience as Wildlands was.