Can DA4 even compete in today's quality of games?

Honestly I have been considering this model a LOT and I can't say I wouldn't entirely mind.  As much as I love DLC packs for what they do like Tresspasser and Descent or as much as I like the little free missions that Ubisoft does for Ghost Recon and AC OD I do often wonder if they aren't more trouble then they're worth especially from a story perspective.  All the complaints of people who feel that BioWare is divying up their content or selling the 'real' ending as seperate DLC...as silly as I often find it...would dissapear if we got all of Inquisition and its DLC as one purchase and they just expanded on the Live Service in MP.  

On the other hand the big problem with that is if you start putting in story in those expansions, because they would almost have to put in story even if its thread bare, you'd have people complaining that the story is being hidden behind MP...which most people aren't willing to play.  

But yeah, I think its an idea that BioWare should consider releasing a 'complete' SP game with an eye for no expansions and expansions in MP only.

Besides I am sure Hrungr can correct me if I am wrong but I beieve everything in there is gettable in game, if you just grind for some oricalcum and then go to the random Oikos of the Olympians gift shop.  Sure its random and may take awhile...just ask Jorraptor about his quest for the Hades Lieutenant, but honestly for me its a sensible system...want something specific?  Spend money.  Want something but not willing to pony up, deal with loot boxes.

You're assuming that under the GTA/RDR2 business model, DAI would have still had its extensive add-ons like Jaws of Hakkon and Trespasser. There's no way to know that that would have happened.

The concept of a "complete" game is fiction. If Inquisition had never gotten any dlc at all, on what basis could anyone argue that the game was "incomplete"? They can only make that argument BECAUSE there is additional content to be had.

Wow, I never realized this...err wait I have! Along with everyone else who buys games. But thank you for this profound insight. No one expects free content, they just want monetization to be done right. 

And yet gamers complain, quite riotiously, about any monetization even if its benign and reasonable...so it would seem anyways.  

If EA wants Dragon Age to have live service, they should use the Red Dead Redemption 2/Grand Theft Auto V model (single player campaign with a separate online mode). That model has made Rockstar Games a shit ton of money.

What are you talking about?

I mean yes I know the ingame store is a thing but its off in its own seperate corner of the menu.  I only spent about five minutes in there browsing for a couple of things and then when I didn't see them or saw that they weren't *worth it* I left, and never bothered to go back.  The game didn't really ever try and *sell me* anything....I mean I guess maybe when I opened up the menu before actually hitting 'resume' to get to the actual game...but again very easy for me to ignore.  

Besides I am sure Hrungr can correct me if I am wrong but I beieve everything in there is gettable in game, if you just grind for some oricalcum and then go to the random Oikos of the Olympians gift shop.  Sure its random and may take awhile...just ask Jorraptor about his quest for the Hades Lieutenant, but honestly for me its a sensible system...want something specific?  Spend money.  Want something but not willing to pony up, deal with loot boxes.  Again the game is never advertising these things in the game itself so I spent the entire campaign ignoring it and only went on youtube occasionally to see if a pack was worth it...and they weren't.

I'm only early in my second PT and you can one-hit stealth kill enemies at the start of the game. Just not mercs and bosses.

And unless it forces you to in the first PT (which I can't remember) I haven't even looked in the store except to get that freakish looking horse they released for free a while back.

And - on topic - DA4 won't compete with "todays" games. DA4 will be substantially better from a technology point of view, because it is still - at least - a couple of years away. With regards to whether or not it will be as 'good' or entertaining, that will, as always depend on your personal taste.

The problem is the online community doesn't acknowledge "personal taste" it must be made specifically for their tastes since they represent everyone and if not its objectively a bad game and anyone that says that they liked the game are either paid shills or lying.  At least that has been my experience around BioWare games for the last few years.