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Post by Absafraginlootly on May 31, 2020 5:42:40 GMT
Tevinter Nights makes it seem even less likely to me that we'll get to pick a side in the Tevinter/qun war. They made such a point about the antaam being unsupported by the rest of the qun in their invasion. Seems like the point of having the qun have a split focus with the antaam attacking Thedas whilst the ben hassrath hunt solas - is so that when you finally stop competing with the Ben hassrath for information and start cooperating and sharing it, it won't mean shit to the antaam. An alliance with one part of the qun right now doesn't necessarily equal an alliance with the whole. Personally I hope they lean into the idea of the spy/operative leading a small team going after intel, artefacts and enemy operatives secretly to combat fen'harel - with the qun invasion as a challenging backdrop. It would make a change from the "you must gather your armies before venturing forth" model of dao and dai. What if I don’t want you to cooperate with Ben hassrath. I’d much rather gut them. It would certainly be interesting if you got to choose between getting the ben hassrath's intel on solas by forming an agreement to share information or by killing some of their agents and stealing it. The later means they'll probably come after you but former means you have to tell them what you know also. Could have some interesting consequences down the line.
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Post by Buckeldemon on May 31, 2020 11:32:07 GMT
I'm willing to bet money that the Tevinter/Qunari conflict will be resolved in the first third of the game, when they are both put out of commission because Solas sent his lieutenants to plague them, and we have to choose one side to assist while the other is destroyed. Eww. I hate the "Only one or the other" choices like that. They feel so fake and forced. Yeah. Also, if they make a Tevinter or Qunari choice, it could easily end up as "mages vs. templars" in essence, yet again. Tevinter Nights makes it seem even less likely to me that we'll get to pick a side in the Tevinter/qun war. They made such a point about the antaam being unsupported by the rest of the qun in their invasion. Seems like the point of having the qun have a split focus with the antaam attacking Thedas whilst the ben hassrath hunt solas - is so that when you finally stop competing with the Ben hassrath for information and start cooperating and sharing it, it won't mean shit to the antaam. An alliance with one part of the qun right now doesn't necessarily equal an alliance with the whole. Personally I hope they lean into the idea of the spy/operative leading a small team going after intel, artefacts and enemy operatives secretly to combat fen'harel - with the qun invasion as a challenging backdrop. It would make a change from the "you must gather your armies before venturing forth" model of dao and dai. What if I don’t want you to cooperate with Ben hassrath. I’d much rather gut them. Well, it would not be the first time. I would also have wanted to gut the Chantry in DAI (especially when playing a Lavellan or Adaar), but no.
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Post by gervaise21 on May 31, 2020 14:35:13 GMT
I would also have wanted to gut the Chantry in DAI (especially when playing a Lavellan or Adaar), but no. I must admit I spent my entire first run insisting I was not the Maker's Chosen/Andraste's Herald but it did me no good and I kept being told it would be bad for morale to tell the people the truth. After Adamant my Lavellan ceased to have any respect for the Chantry at all. The same was true for my second run. Needless to say, I disbanded the Inquisition because there was no way I wanted it to remain the tool of the Chantry. However, third run I took a different approach. I still played as Lavellan but he decided to play along with their little charade whilst not actually believing a word of it. That turned out to be a lot of fun because I could just laugh at their gullibility in thinking I had bought into their bull***t. Then responding to Corypheus with "I'm the Maker's Chosen" was very satisfying. No thunderbolts from heaven to punish him for his presumption just confirmed his belief that there is no Maker. It will probably be interesting if we do get a completely different version of the Andrastrian religion now we are headed for Tevinter. I was looking forward to meeting the Black Divine so I hope they don't blow him up before I get there.
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Post by wright1978 on May 31, 2020 14:41:14 GMT
Eww. I hate the "Only one or the other" choices like that. They feel so fake and forced. Yeah. Also, if they make a Tevinter or Qunari choice, it could easily end up as "mages vs. templars" in essence, yet again. What if I don’t want you to cooperate with Ben hassrath. I’d much rather gut them. Well, it would not be the first time. I would also have wanted to gut the Chantry in DAI (especially when playing a Lavellan or Adaar), but no. Yeah the whole i have to play along with Chantry in DAI annoyed me intensely, culminating in the only option tro retain the inquisition in Trespasser is to become the chantry's lapdog.
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Post by Frost on May 31, 2020 14:53:24 GMT
Hopefully it will be a Tevinter vs. Qunari choice. I will be playing a mage pc, so I do not want to have to ally with the Ben hassrath/Qunari.
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Post by gervaise21 on May 31, 2020 17:30:28 GMT
Well if there are two factions in the Qunari, the same could be said for Tevinter. Would we be choosing just a generic "Tevinter Magisterium" or would we actually get the choice between, say, the Lucerni, who do not hold a lot of power but were being built up as the Tevinter good guys, and, for example, the Black Divine and his cronies, who hold a great deal of power and probably have access to secret records but are essentially corrupt and (possibly) evil, although opposed to the elven mage upstart?
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Post by Frost on May 31, 2020 18:02:27 GMT
Well if there are two factions in the Qunari, the same could be said for Tevinter. Would we be choosing just a generic "Tevinter Magisterium" or would we actually get the choice between, say, the Lucerni, who do not hold a lot of power but were being built up as the Tevinter good guys, and, for example, the Black Divine and his cronies, who hold a great deal of power and probably have access to secret records but are essentially corrupt and (possibly) evil, although opposed to the elven mage upstart? Sounds good to pick a Tevinter faction. There doesn't seem to be a good Qunari faction for a mage to pick, though. They either execute/destroy the minds of mages or chain mages and sew their mouths shut. So, hopefully, we are not forced to side with either Qunari faction.
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Post by Buckeldemon on May 31, 2020 22:12:29 GMT
I must admit I spent my entire first run insisting I was not the Maker's Chosen/Andraste's Herald but it did me no good and I kept being told it would be bad for morale to tell the people the truth. After Adamant my Lavellan ceased to have any respect for the Chantry at all. The same was true for my second run. Needless to say, I disbanded the Inquisition because there was no way I wanted it to remain the tool of the Chantry. I did pretty much the same, including the disband. I just did not care about the moral aspect at all, given that Lavellan was going to do most of the work herself. And of course, that even telling the truth wouldn't have helped anyway. Can't argue belief. However, third run I took a different approach. I still played as Lavellan but he decided to play along with their little charade whilst not actually believing a word of it. That turned out to be a lot of fun because I could just laugh at their gullibility in thinking I had bought into their bull***t. Then responding to Corypheus with "I'm the Maker's Chosen" was very satisfying. No thunderbolts from heaven to punish him for his presumption just confirmed his belief that there is no Maker. Oh, I will have to try that once, sounds like fun. I'd say I feel it is almost impossible for me to play some sort of Lavellan concerned about the future of their people without getting into politicking, so off she went to keep Briala around (at least to make sure nobody gets complacent) as well as trying to undermine Chantry power where possible, like keeping Cass from reforming the seekers and getting rid of the Templar Order. It will probably be interesting if we do get a completely different version of the Andrastrian religion now we are headed for Tevinter. I was looking forward to meeting the Black Divine so I hope they don't blow him up before I get there. I hope so. I do not quite like the habit introduced at DAI's time that everything is measure to southern andrastian standards. "What, the Dalish have no templars?!?!? " I hope it does not become a trend, especially on meta-level. Having (ridiculously) biased characters is good, but authors should not slip into this.
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Post by gervaise21 on Jun 1, 2020 9:10:20 GMT
Oh, I will have to try that once, sounds like fun. I'd say I feel it is almost impossible for me to play some sort of Lavellan concerned about the future of their people without getting into politicking, so off she went to keep Briala around (at least to make sure nobody gets complacent) as well as trying to undermine Chantry power where possible, like keeping Cass from reforming the seekers and getting rid of the Templar Order. That's why doing those sorts of things as the "Maker's Chosen" is such fun, because how can they disagree with you? Particularly fun if you are not just an elf but a mage to boot. Naturally he got Leliana as Divine so the Canticle of Shartan is restored to the Chant, where it is clearly written that Andraste regarded Shartan as her equal in the eyes of the Maker. Don't you think it is curious though, that in Trespasser no reference is made to this religious aspect during discussions. Surely if the Herald of Andraste was chosen by the Maker to lead his army of righteousness, then no one has the authority to challenge that? Clearly, once Corypheus was out of the way, the truth was allowed to leak out to those in positions of power and the ordinary people were kept in the dark about what they were planning to do with the Inquisition. I suppose the argument would be that if you truly served the Maker then you'd be happy to hand over control to the Divine.
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Post by thebobzilla84 on Jun 1, 2020 13:44:42 GMT
I want DA4 to have actual compelling choice's that have a actual impact on the story/world not just shallow window dressing choice's by the way I know it's taboo to mention Witcher 3 on here but I'm gonna say it I want DA4 to have sidequest's on par with Witcher 3's.
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Post by thebobzilla84 on Jun 1, 2020 13:55:36 GMT
And the war table can **** right off seriously 24/48 hrs to complete some damn generic mission with no real incentive.🤬
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