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Post by Little Bengel on Mar 5, 2020 18:46:06 GMT
As we all know, spoilers for Tevinter Nights have started flooding the DA-centric corners of the internet. Since there are still people who prefer to not get their hands on spoilers and wait for the book to come out, I'm thinking that it would be the greatest idea ever to create a thread just for those who want to talk about the spoilers without risking bothering the rest of the DA fans here. So... go wild. NOTE: Obviously, spoilers for Tevinter Nights will most likely be all that lies beyond. If you're not looking for spoilers, avoid this thread like the Blight.
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Post by Hrungr on Mar 5, 2020 18:52:27 GMT
Here are some spoilers for stories that weren't in that first group from Google Books...Luck in the GardensA Lovecraftian murder-mystery set in Minrathous. The protagonist is a "Lord of Fortune" (LoF are a guild of treasure hunters & dungeoneers from Rivain), a friend/ally of Dorian's and cleverly tracks down a monster called a Cekorax to the sewer. It's straight-up Lovecraft from there - tentacles and eyeballs and it speaks. Things like, " Come inside, where it's warm. There is room in the crown of the blind." "I am a sweeter ending than you know. Things are rising. Stay safe inside me." HungerDon't know too much about this one, other that it follows a group of Wardens to village. There were a few darkspawn around, but the village was attacked by something else that wasn't a darkspawn. The last page I saw was just about to reveal it after it lured them out of the village. Murder by Death MagesThe 2 pages I saw featured Sidony (the necromancer in DAIMP) talking with an elf named Cyrros (whom even the nobility fear for some reason) at a party for Nevarran nobility. She notes that while people fear her and her reputation, Cyrros is on another level entirely. The Wigmaker JobIt seems to be about 2 Antivan Crows (Lucanis & Illario) taking a job form an anonymous client to kill a Venatori Bloodmage Wigmaker (Ambrose) in Minrathous. The last page has Lucanis throwing his knife and taking off 4 of Ambrose's fingers. Then Ambrose starts eating... a wig... and?? (I think he turns into an abomination) Harold Had the PlanWhich was... all of 1 page, before it skipped to the next story. It just starts off with another "Lord of Fortune", this time a dwarf named Bharv, making his way to a rendezvous point on the Minanter River after escaping Starkhaven guards and tournament knights. Eight Little TalonsJust a couple scattered pages. A murder-mystery involving the Crows, and something to do with the Qunari. Half the Talons are dead and Antiva is vulnerable. Half Up FrontOne page starts with an female elven mage (an agent of the Dread Wolf) paralyzing another (human) mage she had hired to track down some Qunari, and taking from him a rune(stone?). And while holding it, she says "Felassan, Felassan, Felassan." It glows ominously red. The Dread Wolf Take YouOn another page, two groups - one consisting of Qunari (Ben-Hassrath), the other a team from Tevinter (2 magisters, 1 archer, 1 intelligent golem) converging on a room which has a red lyrium idol the Dread Wolf is looking for. The Qunari try to diffuse the situation by sharing that knowledge with the Tevinter group. On another page, Solas is talking to Charter, asking her why she came. She says "Did you expect us not to try to stop you?" Solas confesses he told the Inquisitor in a moment of weakness. He thought they all deserved to know, to live a few years in peace before his ritual was complete and the world ended. Charter tries to convince him, that he doesn't need to this. That he's lying to himself. Solas again says he has no choice, that what he's doing will save the world, and the elves that remain may even find it better when it's done. Charter thinks of Tessa, and tells Solas there are those she cares for who would not. Solas empathizes, reminds her that he's not a god. He's prideful, hotheaded, and foolish, and doing what he must. He says when she reports back to the Inquisitor, "Say that I'm sorry." They part (peacefully) after that, and Charter starts writing her report to the Inquisitor. The red lyrium idol was of a crowned figure comforting another. That has some significance. On the red lyrium idol. Carta dwarves reveal to Charter that they were (hired?) by an elf. They had snuck into the courtyard in Kirkwall where Meredith's remains were (which continued to mutate until it was just a twisted vein of lyrium). Most went mad just trying to approach it. Those that made it poured a potion over her heart and it opened up revealing a red lyrium idol, identical to the one Hawke found in the Deep Roads. There was also mention that "The idol also reacts to other lyrium." The Qunari did make a point that the idol was no mere trinket, but wasn't specific beyond that. There is also a Dragon Mask that has some role in the story, worn by Solas who pretends to have an Orlesian accent, but drops it and says, "Ar lasa mala" ("You are free" - I think) to Charter. Charter also runs across an assassin, a Mortalitasi, and a Carta dwarf.
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Post by dadithinkimgay on Mar 5, 2020 18:58:07 GMT
On the red lyrium idol. Carta dwarves reveal to Charter that they were (hired?) by an elf. They had snuck into the courtyard in Kirkwall where Meredith's remains were (which continued to mutate until it was just a twisted vein of lyrium). Most went mad just trying to approach it. Those that made it poured a potion over her heart and it opened up revealing a red lyrium idol, identical to the one Hawke found in the Deep Roads. There was also mention that "The idol also reacts to other lyrium." This seriously made me go WTF.
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Post by Little Bengel on Mar 5, 2020 19:02:36 GMT
HungerDon't know too much about this one, other that it follows a group of Wardens to village. There were a few darkspawn around, but the village was attacked by something else that wasn't a darkspawn. The last page I saw was just about to reveal it after it lured them out of the village. Using some google tricks, I think I managed to figure out what the offending party is. Werewolves are back, baby.
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Post by Hrungr on Mar 5, 2020 19:04:49 GMT
Theory: "Solas" and "The Dread Wolf" are two different aspects of the same person.
When we see Solas talking to Charter, he seems to be the more "thoughtful" Solas we knew in DA:I. But when we see "The Dread Wolf" in the Fade, confronting the Tevinter Mages, he's much angrier, talks IN ALL CAPS, and chomps one mage in half. I think the story Down Among The Dead Men gives us a little insight in how two different spirits can dwell and influence the same person.
I think in DA4, our actions will influence which aspect of Solas wins out.
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Post by Hrungr on Mar 5, 2020 19:06:24 GMT
HungerDon't know too much about this one, other that it follows a group of Wardens to village. There were a few darkspawn around, but the village was attacked by something else that wasn't a darkspawn. The last page I saw was just about to reveal it after it lured them out of the village. Using some google tricks, I think I managed to figure out what the offending party is. Werewolves are back, baby. Thanks! I caught some of that late last night, but wasn't sure if it was part of that story.
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Post by Little Bengel on Mar 5, 2020 19:07:41 GMT
Theory: "Solas" and "The Dread Wolf" are two different aspects of the same person. When we see Solas talking to Charter, he seems to be the more "thoughtful" Solas we knew in DA:I. But when we see "The Dread Wolf" in the Fade, confronting the Tevinter Mages, he's much angrier, talks IN ALL CAPS, and chomps one mage in half. I think the story Down Among The Dead Men gives us a little insight in how two different spirits can dwell and influence the same person. I think in DA4, our actions will influence which aspect of Solas wins out. So if we do it right, we get the bald egg and a chance at something resembling a happy ending. Do it wrong, big bad demon wolf, killitkillit
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Post by xMissWoox on Mar 5, 2020 19:10:28 GMT
I wonder if the DA4 protagonist will be ( or would have been) a Lord of Fortune. Would have fit well with the 'heist' aspect of Joplin and connected us to Dorian.
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Post by Hrungr on Mar 5, 2020 19:13:22 GMT
I wonder if the DA4 protagonist will be ( or would have been) a Lord of Fortune. Would have fit well with the 'heist' aspect of Joplin and connected us to Dorian. A good theory. There are a number of Lords of Fortune across different stories in the book. At the very least, I expect we'll run across them, if not have one as a companion.
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Post by Little Bengel on Mar 5, 2020 19:15:49 GMT
Just a small correction I have to make on Hrungr's summary: The "Felassan" amulet scene isn't in Dread Wolf Take You.
Been confirmed by someone on r/dragonage's Discord who already has the book.
Looking back at the stuff I saw on Google Books, I have to agree.
I think that's more from the Half Up Front story.
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Post by Hrungr on Mar 5, 2020 19:18:23 GMT
Just a small correction I have to make on Hrungr's summary: The "Felassan" amulet scene isn't in Dread Wolf Take You. Been confirmed by someone on r/dragonage's Discord who already has the book. Looking back at the stuff I saw on Google Books, I have to agree. I think that's more from the Half Up Front story. Probably. The pages I read were scattered, so I sometimes it wasn't easy to tell where they came from. I'll make the correction.
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Post by Little Bengel on Mar 5, 2020 19:22:59 GMT
Just discovered that Gatt makes an appearance in Half Up Front too.
I know it's Half Up Front because I looked up Dumat's Folly and his name appeared in one of the snippets.
Seriously, I recommend everyone go check out Google Books' preview and look everything up.
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Post by ellanathehamster on Mar 5, 2020 19:42:52 GMT
Theory: "Solas" and "The Dread Wolf" are two different aspects of the same person. When we see Solas talking to Charter, he seems to be the more "thoughtful" Solas we knew in DA:I. But when we see "The Dread Wolf" in the Fade, confronting the Tevinter Mages, he's much angrier, talks IN ALL CAPS, and chomps one mage in half. I think the story Down Among The Dead Men gives us a little insight in how two different spirits can dwell and influence the same person. I think in DA4, our actions will influence which aspect of Solas wins out. Good one! I also think our choices will matter. also, remember what Weekes said once? Romance with Lavellan has a huge impact on moral side of Solas. Plus the difference in the dialogue with him in trespasser? Friend versus rival. It's huge deal
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Post by Hrungr on Mar 5, 2020 19:53:12 GMT
Oh, and one more tidbit, Philliam the Bard's full name is Philliam Bernard Aloicious Trevelyan..
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Post by Solas on Mar 5, 2020 19:56:19 GMT
Oh, and one more tidbit, Philliam the Bard's full name is Philliam Bernard Aloicious Trevelyan.. this was in WoT
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Post by xMissWoox on Mar 5, 2020 19:56:57 GMT
Also I find it interesting that Solas implies that some elves might survive the Big Event, because in Trespasser he made it seem like the modern elves would perish too ("the return of my people means the end of yours" spoken to all races including elven Inquisitors).
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Post by Hrungr on Mar 5, 2020 19:59:09 GMT
Also I find it interesting that Solas implies that some elves might survive the Big Event, because in Trespasser he made it seem like the modern elves would perish too ("the return of my people means the end of yours" spoken to all races including elven Inquisitors). I think Trespasser just goofed up there. The book certainly implies elves will survive the fall fo the Veil.
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Post by xMissWoox on Mar 5, 2020 20:01:22 GMT
Also I find it interesting that Solas implies that some elves might survive the Big Event, because in Trespasser he made it seem like the modern elves would perish too ("the return of my people means the end of yours" spoken to all races including elven Inquisitors). I think Trespasser just goofed up there. The book certainly implies elves will survive the fall fo the Veil. That would make more sense, as well as explain why elves are actually willing to join him. I hope the book does indeed clarify.
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Post by azarhal on Mar 5, 2020 20:02:48 GMT
more red lyrium... and DA2 idol people never learn
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Post by Little Bengel on Mar 5, 2020 20:03:02 GMT
Y'know, I used to be staunchly against Solas' plan to sunder the Veil and kill all non-elves.
After seeing the new Darkspawn fuckery in Horror of Hormak, though... please let him do it, it'll spare me from the horror
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Mar 5, 2020 20:26:56 GMT
Theory: "Solas" and "The Dread Wolf" are two different aspects of the same person. When we see Solas talking to Charter, he seems to be the more "thoughtful" Solas we knew in DA:I. But when we see "The Dread Wolf" in the Fade, confronting the Tevinter Mages, he's much angrier, talks IN ALL CAPS, and chomps one mage in half. I think the story Down Among The Dead Men gives us a little insight in how two different spirits can dwell and influence the same person. I think in DA4, our actions will influence which aspect of Solas wins out. So if we do it right, we get the bald egg and a chance at something resembling a happy ending. Do it wrong, big bad demon wolf, killitkillit That only works if the Inquisitor returns as the protagonist though, since a new PC wouldn’t matter that much to Solas.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Mar 5, 2020 20:30:10 GMT
Just a small correction I have to make on Hrungr's summary: The "Felassan" amulet scene isn't in Dread Wolf Take You. Been confirmed by someone on r/dragonage's Discord who already has the book. Looking back at the stuff I saw on Google Books, I have to agree. I think that's more from the Half Up Front story. Link to the discord please. Just in case they have more info.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Mar 5, 2020 20:34:54 GMT
Also I find it interesting that Solas implies that some elves might survive the Big Event, because in Trespasser he made it seem like the modern elves would perish too ("the return of my people means the end of yours" spoken to all races including elven Inquisitors). Unless he just means his elves, whether that be the ancient elves and/or maybe he has a way to spare those who follow him.
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There's a chunky spoiler thread on Reddit as well: https://www.reddit.com/r/dragonage/comments/fchrp0/spoilers_all_tevinter_nights_spoilers_big/
Dorian is in it
Maevaris is in it
Vaea is in it
no Zevran from what I can see sorry :’( [but bear in mind I can’t see all of it]
Solas is mentioned at least 4 times by the name Solas
Solas or his new cultists seemingly have ordered his/their agents “Death before capture” they fucking SUICIDE PILL rather than be captured WTF?? or at least one agent in a story does. (see quotes below)
Felassan is mentioned
A FEMALE ELF WHO SHAPESHIFTED INTO A HALLA
An Executor is in it
werewolves!!
Divine Victoria appears
Venatori mentions
red lyrium encounters
Andruil mentioned several times. Ghilan’nain mentioned
we’re going to Arlathan Forest
Rivain has some sort of order or guild called the Lords of Fortune
there’s a Qunari rank Bas-taar
Charter appears and she does gay pining for Tessa
Sutherland and company appear
Philliam, a Bard! appears
Varric as Viscount Tethras is mentioned
Kal-Sharok is mentioned
Cassandra is mentioned
Josephine is mentioned
Skyhold is mentioned
a Rasaan is in it
Genetivi is in it
Dagna appears
Valya mentioned, doing new research into new weird darkspawn phenomena
the Antaam attacked without the permission of the rest of the Qunari govt
Sidony from DAMP is in it
Kirkwall’s events & boom referenced
Serault glass mirrors mentioned
House Danarius mentioned
no mention of live griffons from what I can see
Isseya is mis-spelled as Issenya
ALL of these next bits are quotes. compiled what made me go !!! or "ooooh" from a bunch of fragments (hence why it's disjointed). There's other stuff I'm still sifting through.
"As though my good works were insufficient to draw compassionate spirits who might wish me protected, as though I were some common criminal binding spirits through blood magic, not the victim of the Dread Wolf himself! they returned with"
[suicide pill entry] "Her teeth clenched. Green foam started to fill her mouth. I dropped her to the ground and she started spasming, her legs drumming on the wooden deck. Her back arched once, twice, and then she was still. I knelt beside her and put my fingers to the side of her throat. Nothing. Dead. Damnit. “And that’s the other reason I didn’t join. Death before capture. Not my sort of thing at all.”"
"The words battered us like storm winds, and the Dread Wolf’s jaws closed upon the Tevinter mage, snapping him up in an instant as he screamed in terror. The lesser demons rushed down upon us, crackling with fire and lightning and our"
"us, and the demons that had accompanied the Dread Wolf burst into the world in righteous fury, shining warriors with blades forged from the raw fade itself and behind them, dimly visible through the crackling light, the shadow of the beast"
"“And now we know that the Dread Wolf has agents working for him,” the bard added, his mask glittering in the firelight as he tossed back his golden locks. “and that he has the power to kill those who oppose him as they sleep.”"
"“I act freely. For the Dread Wolf. To bring back what was once ours - what must be ours again.” Dread Wolf. Crap. I’d heard the rumors of course - dozens of elves, off to heed the call of some god. Guess I’d found one of them, at least. “The Qunari left sooner than I’d expected - their trail grew cold. But I had you. You found them for me."
"All painted by Solas, the Inquisition’s expert on the Veil and the Fade beyond. It was his gift of record. At least, that’s what was claimed at the time. The rotunda they entered now was not fastidiously clean like the rest of Skyhold. The floor was"
"“Tevinter’s intelligence network declined to answer our request,” Charter said, “As did the Ben-Hassrath.” She grimaced. “The latter is especially disappointing. They had more knowledge of Solas’ movements than anyone else. They also”"
"“‘Solas’ is also not true.” “Pride,” said Laudine. “It means pride.” Rasaan stopped and cocked an eye. “Very good,” she said. Names were important to the Qunari. They were named for their roles, and roles defined their identities. Their actual"
"“Beyond that, the Inquisition knows little about what Solas intends. Much of his research involves the Veil that separates our world from the world of the spirits. He claimed to have created it, and he asked the Inquisition for help activating"
"A lone elf. My client. […] The rune that she’d given me - she held it aloft, examining it critically. Muttering a single word over and over again. “Felassan, Felassan, Felassan.” There was a hum, and the rune began to glow a steady and unpleasant red. I’d been around enough magic to know that was probably not a good thing."
"“But you are now known to Fen’Harel. He has eyes everywhere. Inside Tevinter, without a doubt.” “So where should we go?” Irian asked quietly. She had moved closer, and was standing directly beside me."
"The Fen’Harel question. How many lives had ended, seeking an answer? Four more, if our turn chasing a legend fails tonight. But we’ve dragged truth from the darkness beneath Tevinter, found pages that will guide"
"of those damned Fen'Harel cultists. ‘Ooh, if we blow up enough people, ancient Elvhenan is definitely coming back.'” She caught my questioning glance. “They tried to recruit me a few years ago. I said no.”"
"as the Avvar do. But whatever fear the name Dread Wolf carries, he has earned. While we might visit the Fade, it is his natural home, and the spirits there serve him gladly. They whisper in my dreams now, accusing me of crimes I never"
"the wolves. Each event that had shaped the Inquisition was being stripped of color."
"The division of the mortal realm from the Fade was not a natural state that had always existed. It was an event, a moment in time that had literally shattered the elven empire. Pieces of that glory now drifted beyond dream and will, with the Dread Wolf stalking between. But other pieces remained, displaced in the physical world."
"Elves are slim, but its their eyes and ears we recall. Humans have the most variety in the shoulders, and all anyone sees about qunari are height and horns"
"In our veins runs true Tevinter blood, passed down from the dreamers"
"You all know that the Antaam invaded without permission of the other branches of Qunari government? We had assumed this would hobble them, but it appears the priests and workers were a moderating influence. Without them, the Antaam have crushed the Tevinter opposition in the east, and I fear everything east of Vyrantium will be under their control within a year, and northern Antiva as well."
"The Inquisition had to be disbanded, they argued.. The Inquisition wasn’t the first army it had hosted. It would remain a distant beacon, so that all would remember when the Inquisitor had rallied the people of Thedas against a false god"
"He couldn’t be killed until his blighted dragon was dead, and the Herald had somehow countered with a dragon of their own. And there was a dragon on the panel, with an Inquisition blade in its neck. But according to the story"
"Every act of the Inquisitor recorded in masterful plaster and paint. From the explosion that had marked the Herald, to the triumph against a blighted false god"
"matter to her that Sidony wanted nothing to do with the fate of her home country? The Inquisitor does not want to see that happen to Nevarra. Or did it only matter that the Inquisitor was pleased?"
"The Inquisitor has taken a chance on his potential. But more than that, the Inquisitor had stood for him. Had stood for them all. Made them feel like they were worth it and could help. Made them look forward."
"We bounced once, twice, jostling with the magical orb but it still held"
"Something huge trembled around us, a spirit so great that it shook parts of the Fade I had always considered to be neutral, devoid of life. - and high overhead, where the Black City shadowed the sky, I heard a great booming roar"
"So that’s what it was. “Supposed to be a piece of the Black City itself. ‘A reminder of man’s hubris, and of the unique and glorious divinity of the Maker’.” I snorted. “Seems like a bunch of nug shit to me.” “Regardless, the artifact has been stolen."
"“Anything else?” “Whoever clips the Crows’ wings will walk by my side when we enter the Black City and take glory back for the Imperium.”"
"The Blight is over, or so it seems. Valya, a young elven mage recently recruited into the Wardens, has been tasked with studying the historical records of previous Blights in order to gain insight into newly reported, and disturbing, darkspawn phenomena. Her research into the"
"One of our best smiths has been studying red lyrium, and she says the blasted stuff is tainted by the Blight. A few families might’ve tried to keep smuggling it after that, but we shut that down. The Carta believes in business. Blight is bad for business"
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