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Post by skekSil on Aug 7, 2020 23:53:07 GMT
Im still not sure whether its ok to post this, some people might find this gross or offensive, but in the end its a very important issue, so I feel you should know:
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Post by mybudgee on Aug 8, 2020 3:48:53 GMT
My GF thought she had it (So I was afraid I did too) She tested negative
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Post by frosted on Aug 8, 2020 6:59:17 GMT
My GF thought she had it (So I was afraid I did too) She tested negative Wow, That's good news!
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Post by frosted on Aug 8, 2020 7:13:08 GMT
I found a solitary regular-sized can of Lysol Spray Disinfectant on a mostly empty shelf at Walmart. It wasn't defective either. This was the first can of the stuff I'd seen in any store since at least early March and to find it on a late Friday afternoon was even more unusual. The sense of elation I felt when I grabbed it was embarrassing. I felt like I'd seen a unicorn. The pandemic is definitely messing with my head.
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Post by frosted on Aug 8, 2020 7:52:24 GMT
Our schools will start their year on August 20th and the first quarter will be online only. Other than that, nothing is set in stone. Our mayor (Ethan Berkowitz) addressed the community today, 8/7/2020, about the backtracking of Anchorage into a partial lockdown. This began on Monday 8/3/2020 and at one point, his voice quavered and there were tears in his eyes. That really caught me off guard because he is a mature and generally emotionally contained individual. I almost cried myself at that and I'm not a crier. The hardship many of our local businesses are facing is fast becoming overwhelming for some and watching these people struggle is very hard. The pandemic means hundreds of conferences and other Alaska events are canceled. For the industry that relies on them, it’s ‘disastrous.’www.adn.com/alaska-news/anchorage/2020/08/06/the-pandemic-means-hundreds-of-conferences-and-other-alaska-events-are-canceled-for-the-industry-that-relies-on-them-its-disastrous/As for our kids, you only have to look at the risky situation in some other states to understand why our schools didn't want to take a chance on opening too early. Georgia school reverses suspension of teen who shared viral photo of hallway packed with studentswww.washingtonpost.com/education/2020/08/06/georgia-teens-shared-photos-maskless-students-crowded-hallways-now-theyre-suspended/In this photo posted on Twitter, students crowd a hallway Tuesday at North Paulding High School in Dallas, Ga. (AP)August 7, 2020 at 7:25 a.m. AKDT A few brave, smart kids are getting into good trouble...
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Post by mybudgee on Aug 9, 2020 19:23:50 GMT
So, pretty bizarre turn of events here in Budgee-land My GF had (& still does) mild shortness of breath on Friday. Me and her twin 13 year-old sons have NO symptoms. My GF had a test Friday which came back negative. She and her ex-husband have decided that the boys shall isolate her in my apt with us for 2 weeks, or until another test comes back negative. Weird part is; they decided without talking to me about it, that I should not leave the building at all. I scoffed and told them hell no. I have been & continue to wear my mask and distance when I am out. But... someone needs to get groceries etc. She said we can pay her ex to do it. I said FUCK that Any advice for me other than lying down & total surrender? This guy has no power over me, and the test was NEGATIVE!
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Aug 9, 2020 21:27:17 GMT
So, pretty bizarre turn of events here in Budgee-land My GF had (& still does) mild shortness of breath on Friday. Me and her twin 13 year-old sons have NO symptoms. My GF had a test Friday which came back negative. She and her ex-husband have decided that the boys shall isolate her in my apt with us for 2 weeks, or until another test comes back negative. Weird part is; they decided without talking to me about it, that I should not leave the building at all. I scoffed and told them hell no. I have been & continue to wear my mask and distance when I am out. But... someone needs to get groceries etc. She said we can pay her ex to do it. I said FUCK that Any advice for me other than lying down & total surrender? This guy has no power over me, and the test was NEGATIVE! Tell them the ex can do it, but no way in hell are you paying him to do it...? Or - he can stay away from your place and you can pay for a groceries delivery service...? When we were in full lockdown, deliveries were nearly impossible to get - they were always fully booked - so it was a case of one person went out, once. Take hand sanitiser and use it, then washed all the fruit and vegetables before putting them away. In your case, yes, a mask. Hell, even gloves, why not? But don't pay your girlfriends ex. That's bloody cheeky to suggest.
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Post by frosted on Aug 9, 2020 23:58:24 GMT
If you still don't want to wear a mask, wear one for Chris "wear a mask, dammit" Priestly. This tweet:
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Post by mybudgee on Aug 10, 2020 17:50:19 GMT
We are all fine (no symptoms) & my GF is feeling better. Looks like it may have been mild pneumonia
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Post by Energizer Bunny 211 on Aug 10, 2020 18:14:35 GMT
That's good to hear, Budgee. But Pneumonia itself can be scary, I've had it once or twice myself. Glad you're both feeling better.
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Post by frosted on Aug 11, 2020 1:50:16 GMT
I don't think we'll have an effective vaccine by Christmas, but it is a nice thought.
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Post by Giant Ambush Beetle on Aug 11, 2020 8:25:08 GMT
I don't think we'll have an effective vaccine by Christmas, but it is a nice thought. Thing is, even if we have one, who would want to get vaccinated? Its a medical product that won't have gone through the mandatory testing protocols, long time side effects that will kick in years down the road are totally possible. In the past several rushed vaccinations and other drugs that were not thoroughly tested had life altering long time side effects which ruined lives. And if its an RNA vaccination, holy crap, that's a totally new concept with totally unpredictable long term side effects. If it was available right now it would be as dangerous as Covid-19 for me, with Cov-19 I can have a mild infection with barely noticeable symptoms (Statistically most likely), or I can get pneumonia so bad I choke. With rushed untested vaccinations people got narcolepsy and lethal nerve degeneration symptoms in the past. No thanks, being cautious and trying not to get infected seems to be the most sensible course of action for me. Maybe some years down the road when statistics are available and more tests have been done on the vaccination I might consider it.
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Post by rewindbutton on Aug 11, 2020 12:27:02 GMT
I don't think we'll have an effective vaccine by Christmas, but it is a nice thought. Thing is, even if we have one, who would want to get vaccinated? Its a medical product that won't have gone through the mandatory testing protocols, long time side effects that will kick in years down the road are totally possible. In the past several rushed vaccinations and other drugs that were not thoroughly tested had life altering long time side effects which ruined lives. [snip] Let's just take this easy? If you are living in a western country, there are laws for testing medicinal products. The vaccine will have gone through several phases of testing before release, that's why it takes so long to do. No politician can rush the vaccine without changing the laws first, and that's not going to happen any time soon.
We learned a whole lot about testing vaccines during the previous pandemic. In 2009 the vaccine Pandemrix was found to cause narcolepsy in youths ages 12-16. The chance of this happening was 0.000036 per vaccination. While a small number, it of course means that hundreds got the side-effect. But the chance of dying for COVID-19 is currently about 0.03, or 3%. I think the vaccine has better odds here.
And if you are vary of the vaccine, you are still in luck, as it will go through phase 4 testing, meaning there will be safety surveillance. So use a mask (I know you will), socially distance and wait. The results will be out eventually.
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Post by Giant Ambush Beetle on Aug 11, 2020 12:46:53 GMT
Let's just take this easy? If you are living in a western country, there are laws for testing medicinal products. The vaccine will have gone through several phases of testing before release, that's why it takes so long to do. No politician can rush the vaccine without changing the laws first, and that's not going to happen any time soon. We learned a whole lot about testing vaccines during the previous pandemic. In 2009 the vaccine Pandemrix was found to cause narcolepsy in youths ages 12-16. The chance of this happening was 0.000036 per vaccination. While a small number, it of course means that hundreds got the side-effect. But the chance of dying for COVID-19 is currently about 0.03, or 3%. I think the vaccine has better odds here. And if you are vary of the vaccine, you are still in luck, as it will go through phase 4 testing, meaning there will be safety surveillance. So use a mask (I know you will), socially distance and wait. The results will be out eventually. That's true for ''normal vaccines, but this is, as far as I know, a RNA vaccine. Its a highly experimental approach, and with the obvious super short testing its definitely a no go for me. Don't care really what the protocols are for this vaccination, and if the scientists deem them ''adequate'', the vaccination has been rushed out and you cannot test for side effects -that can occur years later- in a matter of months. And there are many unknown factors with RNA vaccinations where scientists simply don't really know if they could be problematic. While Covid-19 can be very problematic and even lethal, if you are careful and don't contract it you have to expose yourself neither to the dangers of a barely tested experimental vaccination nor the dangers of suffering from an infection with a pneumonia virus on steroids.
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Post by Ieldra on Aug 11, 2020 18:14:35 GMT
I don't think we'll have an effective vaccine by Christmas, but it is a nice thought. The Russians say they have one. They apparently skipped the phase III-safety tests, but they're confident enough that Putin's daughter used it. Or so they say. Somebody needs to do those tests...
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Post by Iakus on Aug 11, 2020 19:37:21 GMT
I don't think we'll have an effective vaccine by Christmas, but it is a nice thought. The Russians say they have one. They apparently skipped the phase III-safety tests, but they're confident enough that Putin's daughter used it. Or so they say. Somebody needs to do those tests... It may be a tin-foil hat moment for me, but if Russia managed to crank out an effective vaccine, let alone a safe one, this quickly, I'd be mighty curious as to how they managed to pull that off...
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Post by Ieldra on Aug 11, 2020 20:03:54 GMT
The Russians say they have one. They apparently skipped the phase III-safety tests, but they're confident enough that Putin's daughter used it. Or so they say. Somebody needs to do those tests... It may be a tin-foil hat moment for me, but if Russia managed to crank out an effective vaccine, let alone a safe one, this quickly, I'd be mighty curious as to how they managed to pull that off... It's not actually that unlikely. There are several other vaccine candidates in phase III tests at the moment, so they haven't been the first to reach this point. The problem is, without those tests you're basically running an experiment on the people that use it. Like an open beta of some software. The earlier tests establish basic efficacy, i.e. it works as intended at least on a significant subset of your tested population (nothing works on everyone, ever), but you won't get rare side effects that way. And relatively rare as they are, they can still amount to hundreds of thousands cases if you apply the substance to a large population, and they'd also be of unknown severity.
Having said that, it might just turn out to be cost-effective (in terms of health, not money) to use it anyway, if the side effects turn out to do less damage than the Covid-19 cases that occur if you don't use it. We don't know that, of course. It is a giant gamble they're taking there in Russia, but it's not as severely unethical as some comments make it appear. If the reported facts are correct, which admittedly is a big "if" with Russia.
Edit: I'm just now reading there have been no scientific publications in established journals or pre-print servers about this. That does not inspire confidence.
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Post by mybudgee on Aug 11, 2020 20:25:29 GMT
The Russians say they have one. They apparently skipped the phase III-safety tests, but they're confident enough that Putin's daughter used it. Or so they say. Somebody needs to do those tests... It may be a tin-foil hat moment for me, but if Russia managed to crank out an effective vaccine, let alone a safe one, this quickly, I'd be mighty curious as to how they managed to pull that off... Yes, how could the Russians have the upper hand on anything... ?
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Post by Iakus on Aug 11, 2020 20:52:14 GMT
It may be a tin-foil hat moment for me, but if Russia managed to crank out an effective vaccine, let alone a safe one, this quickly, I'd be mighty curious as to how they managed to pull that off... It's not actually that unlikely. There are several other vaccine candidates in phase III tests at the moment, so they haven't been the first to reach this point. The problem is, without those tests you're basically running an experiment on the people that use it. Like an open beta of some software. The earlier tests establish basic efficacy, i.e. it works as intended at least on a significant subset of your tested population (nothing works on everyone, ever), but you won't get rare side effects that way. And relatively rare as they are, they can still amount to hundreds of thousands cases if you apply the substance to a large population, and they'd also be of unknown severity.
Having said that, it might just turn out to be cost-effective (in terms of health, not money) to use it anyway, if the side effects turn out to do less damage than the Covid-19 cases that occur if you don't use it. We don't know that, of course. It is a giant gamble they're taking there in Russia, but it's not as severely unethical as some comments make it appear. If the reported facts are correct, which admittedly is a big "if" with Russia.
Edit: I'm just now reading there have been no scientific publications in established journals or pre-print servers about this. That does not inspire confidence.
Well, I'm going to be skeptical of any vaccines that come out so quickly just as a matter of principle.
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Post by frosted on Aug 11, 2020 21:30:17 GMT
I don't think we'll have an effective vaccine by Christmas, but it is a nice thought. Thing is, even if we have one, who would want to get vaccinated? Its a medical product that won't have gone through the mandatory testing protocols, long time side effects that will kick in years down the road are totally possible. In the past several rushed vaccinations and other drugs that were not thoroughly tested had life altering long time side effects which ruined lives. And if its an RNA vaccination, holy crap, that's a totally new concept with totally unpredictable long term side effects. If it was available right now it would be as dangerous as Covid-19 for me, with Cov-19 I can have a mild infection with barely noticeable symptoms (Statistically most likely), or I can get pneumonia so bad I choke. With rushed untested vaccinations people got narcolepsy and lethal nerve degeneration symptoms in the past. No thanks, being cautious and trying not to get infected seems to be the most sensible course of action for me. Maybe some years down the road when statistics are available and more tests have been done on the vaccination I might consider it. I'd take it if I were a test subject. I have no dependents right now and I'm old. If I can do some good this way, I will. I need to check this out...
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Post by frosted on Aug 11, 2020 21:35:43 GMT
I don't think we'll have an effective vaccine by Christmas, but it is a nice thought. The Russians say they have one. They apparently skipped the phase III-safety tests, but they're confident enough that Putin's daughter used it. Or so they say. Somebody needs to do those tests... It's good to hear from you again, by the way! And you're right, proper testing needs to be done. Will Germany be doing any testing on this Russian vaccine?
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Post by frosted on Aug 11, 2020 21:40:14 GMT
It may be a tin-foil hat moment for me, but if Russia managed to crank out an effective vaccine, let alone a safe one, this quickly, I'd be mighty curious as to how they managed to pull that off... Yes, how could the Russians have the upper hand on anything... ? I'd trust them as far as I could throw them. Or anyone else who comes up with a vaccine this quickly. Let the rest of the world take the needed time to test and verify and then we'll have something to discuss.
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Post by seven on Aug 11, 2020 23:56:12 GMT
Thing is, even if we have one, who would want to get vaccinated? Its a medical product that won't have gone through the mandatory testing protocols, long time side effects that will kick in years down the road are totally possible. In the past several rushed vaccinations and other drugs that were not thoroughly tested had life altering long time side effects which ruined lives. And if its an RNA vaccination, holy crap, that's a totally new concept with totally unpredictable long term side effects. If it was available right now it would be as dangerous as Covid-19 for me, with Cov-19 I can have a mild infection with barely noticeable symptoms (Statistically most likely), or I can get pneumonia so bad I choke. With rushed untested vaccinations people got narcolepsy and lethal nerve degeneration symptoms in the past. No thanks, being cautious and trying not to get infected seems to be the most sensible course of action for me. Maybe some years down the road when statistics are available and more tests have been done on the vaccination I might consider it. I'd take it if I were a test subject. I have no dependents right now and I'm old. If I can do some good this way, I will. I need to check this out...
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Post by frosted on Aug 12, 2020 1:06:22 GMT
Here's some of the New York Times coverage of the Russian vaccine. Russia Approves Coronavirus Vaccine Before Completing TestsThe country became the first in the world to approve a possible vaccine against the virus, despite warnings from the global authorities against cutting corners.www.nytimes.com/2020/08/11/world/europe/russia-coronavirus-vaccine-approval.htmlBy Andrew E. KramerAug. 11, 2020 Updated 6:43 p.m. ET Reporting contributed by Nick Cumming-Bruce in Geneva, Katie Thomas in New York and Noah Weiland in Washington.I feel bad for the soldiers who acted as guinea pigs...
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