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Post by garrusfan1 on May 11, 2020 13:00:26 GMT
Dragon Age Origins looked about five years old on release. For comparison, it released only shortly before Mass Effect 2. It's a testament to how good the game was that players were willing to look beyond the game looking like dirt patted down. DAO was the last truly great Bioware game. Looks aren't everything. If you truly think DAO was the last great bioware game then why do you keep posting about bioware games. I am not being mean I just don't understand it. It just seems like a waste of time.
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Post by SirSourpuss on May 11, 2020 13:35:37 GMT
If you truly think DAO was the last great bioware game I think ME2 was the last great Bioware game. But I've been a fan since 1998. Old habits die hard, on the on hand, on the other, when your FC has a bad year, or ten, you don't change clubs. You can be critical of your club, but you don't have to change clubs. You can choose to do so, or you can choose not to. Liverpool had some very bad years and while I was critical of the club, I never changed teams. I am not being mean I just don't understand it. It just seems like a waste of time. Different folks, different strokes.
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Post by Cyberstrike on May 11, 2020 13:52:01 GMT
DAO was the last truly great Bioware game. Looks aren't everything. If you truly think DAO was the last great bioware game then why do you keep posting about bioware games. I am not being mean I just don't understand it. It just seems like a waste of time.
Because he is trying to be a troll and gaslight people.
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Post by Iakus on May 11, 2020 14:24:53 GMT
DAO was the last truly great Bioware game. Looks aren't everything. If you truly think DAO was the last great bioware game then why do you keep posting about bioware games. I am not being mean I just don't understand it. It just seems like a waste of time. Because not everything they have made since then is "bad. It has varied from "good but flawed" (DA2, DAI), mediocre (ME2, MEA) to "train wreck" (ME3, Anthem) But prior to this, Bioware has made GREAT games. On a fairly regular basis. I'd like to see those days return.
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Post by Son of Dorn on May 11, 2020 14:36:48 GMT
If you truly think DAO was the last great bioware game then why do you keep posting about bioware games. I am not being mean I just don't understand it. It just seems like a waste of time. Because not everything they have made since then is "bad. It has varied from "good but flawed" (DA2, DAI), mediocre (ME2, MEA) to "train wreck" (ME3, Anthem) But prior to this, Bioware has made GREAT games. On a fairly regular basis. I'd like to see those days return. I think those days have long since passed dude. If this remaster thing turns out to be true, then it's desperate attempt to win back those who walked away.
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Post by themikefest on May 11, 2020 14:46:58 GMT
DAO was the last truly great Bioware game. For me, DAI was the last truly great game. Can't speak about Anthem since I never played it. I do agree DAO was a great game. Since this is a remaster thread, I would want DAO remastered first, if each Bioware game were to be remastered individually, but since the trilogy might be, I go with that.
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Post by Iakus on May 11, 2020 14:49:40 GMT
DAO was the last truly great Bioware game. For me, DAI was the last truly great game. Can't speak about Anthem since I never played it. I do agree DAO was a great game. Since this is a remaster thread, I would want DAO remastered first, if each Bioware game were to be remastered individually, but since the trilogy might be, I go with that. I'd love to be aable to play DAO again without getting a ctd whenever Mana Clash was cast.
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Post by alanc9 on May 11, 2020 15:37:51 GMT
A remaster might be a better idea for the series than I thought. If my feeds are anything to judge by, this thing will leverage a lot of free media, which is the cheapest form of marketing.
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Post by alanc9 on May 11, 2020 15:40:16 GMT
For me, DAI was the last truly great game. Can't speak about Anthem since I never played it. I do agree DAO was a great game. Since this is a remaster thread, I would want DAO remastered first, if each Bioware game were to be remastered individually, but since the trilogy might be, I go with that. I'd love to be aable to play DAO again without getting a ctd whenever Mana Clash was cast. Never had that one, thankfully, but that engine was a mess. In big battles I used to have things de-sync all the time; animations playing while the game forgot to actually perform the action, fireballs detonating 30 seconds after being cast, and so forth. And that was on a recommended spec machine. But at least that problem can be solved by throwing more hardware at it.
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Post by SirSourpuss on May 11, 2020 16:06:19 GMT
A remaster might be a better idea for the series than I thought. If my feeds are anything to judge by, this thing will leverage a lot of free media, which is the cheapest form of marketing. I don't see it lasting long. Google Trends has noted an uptick, from 2% of peak interest, with ME3 being 100%, to 3%.
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Post by alanc9 on May 11, 2020 16:17:46 GMT
OK, that's real data. Yeah, my feed is obviously going to be an outlier on such a topic.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2020 17:30:36 GMT
They essentially went through the game, and most of the Extended Cut content is from the Cerberus base until the credits. They added an evac scene, as well as a camera pan to show you that Anderson didn't "follow you up", and they made a bunch of changes to the Starchild scene with new dialogue options and stuff. However, they didn't change the ability to skip anything. So essentially, they went through the entire game's code from the Cerberus base until the credits and added new stuff as they saw fit.
Yeah okay, the interrupts are the reason why you can't skip the Tim and Anderson cut scene. But that still doesn't explain why Starkid's cut scene wasn't skippable, because I don't remember there being any interruption prompts in it. Edit: I mean before EC came out. There's other cutscenes in the game that you can't skip, not just those last two examples.
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Post by Son of Dorn on May 11, 2020 17:32:45 GMT
Yeah okay, the interrupts are the reason why you can't skip the Tim and Anderson cut scene. But that still doesn't explain why Starkid's cut scene wasn't skippable, because I don't remember there being any interruption prompts in it. Edit: I mean before EC came out. There's other cutscenes in the game that you can't skip, not just those last two examples. Which ones? ( I only skip the ones that are too long).
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Post by jamierose95 on May 11, 2020 18:21:24 GMT
Maybe in this echo chamber people don't want this remaster but mass effect facebook groups and twitter groups want this. plus it's be good for achievement hunting on xbox. How you know the remastered going to be Unreal 3 Engine? How you know the next mass effect is going to be sequel to andromeda?
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Post by SirSourpuss on May 11, 2020 19:16:54 GMT
Maybe in this echo chamber people don't want this remaster but mass effect facebook groups and twitter groups want this Never said people didn't. It will sell well. For a texture pack. How you know the remastered going to be Unreal 3 Engine? Because it breaks too much in UE4 and if it breaks too much in UE4, it's not going to work at all in Frostbite. It could get ported to UE4, but that would require a lot of work and porting the models over will require a lot of reworking. Which isn't much, individually, but consider having to do it for each and every model. That's time, manpower and money that EA won't want to spend. How you know the next mass effect is going to be sequel to andromeda? Because Bioware isn't touching the Milky Way, after ME3.
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Post by jamierose95 on May 11, 2020 19:33:14 GMT
Tbh Andromeda don't deserve a sequel. The kett are uninterested. The kett bored hell out of me. If i was them i would rebooted the series forgotten about ending you can't run away from the ending forever.
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Post by smilesja on May 11, 2020 19:35:43 GMT
Tbh Andromeda don't deserve a sequel. The kett are uninterested. The kett bored hell out of me. If i was them i would rebooted the series forgotten about ending you can't run away from the ending forever. A reboot feels pointless and lazy in my mind. It's best to build off Andromeda and learn from the mistakes.
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Post by SirSourpuss on May 11, 2020 19:36:48 GMT
That's not happening. Clearly.
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Post by jamierose95 on May 11, 2020 19:39:34 GMT
Tbh Andromeda don't deserve a sequel. The kett are uninterested. The kett bored hell out of me. If i was them i would rebooted the series forgotten about ending you can't run away from the ending forever. A reboot feels pointless and lazy in my mind. It's best to build off Andromeda and learn from the mistakes. It's laziness to move a different galaxy then try to make the endings work for anyone because good story writer would know that like i say bioware can try run away from mass effect 3 ending it will always be there.
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Post by SirSourpuss on May 11, 2020 19:46:37 GMT
jamierose95It's not laziness. It's fear. Fear that they'll poke the hornets nest again.
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Post by Sanunes on May 11, 2020 20:04:58 GMT
A reboot feels pointless and lazy in my mind. It's best to build off Andromeda and learn from the mistakes. It's laziness to move a different galaxy then try to make the endings work for anyone because good story writer would know that like i say bioware can try run away from mass effect 3 ending it will always be there. BioWare isn't running away from the end of Mass Effect 3. They are just aware of how people will react online if they don't get what they feel they deserve. Recall the online reactions to choices that weren't represented in a way the online playbase felt it should have been done. We saw those reactions in both Mass Effect 2 and amplified in Mass Effect 3 when the games didn't single out the choices an individual player wanted and it caused an online mess. It might not have been representative of everyone, but enough people screamed and yells and BioWare walked away. So BioWare has decided they don't want to try and work around all the choice mess of the first three games and starting over and no way they could get away with that with any kind of Shepard or Milky Way storyline.
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Post by Iakus on May 11, 2020 20:47:15 GMT
It's laziness to move a different galaxy then try to make the endings work for anyone because good story writer would know that like i say bioware can try run away from mass effect 3 ending it will always be there. BioWare isn't running away from the end of Mass Effect 3. They are just aware of how people will react online if they don't get what they feel they deserve. Recall the online reactions to choices that weren't represented in a way the online playbase felt it should have been done. We saw those reactions in both Mass Effect 2 and amplified in Mass Effect 3 when the games didn't single out the choices an individual player wanted and it caused an online mess. It might not have been representative of everyone, but enough people screamed and yells and BioWare walked away. So BioWare has decided they don't want to try and work around all the choice mess of the first three games and starting over and no way they could get away with that with any kind of Shepard or Milky Way storyline. If they just "walked away" There'd have been no mention of Shepard, the Reapers, or anything from the OT. Instead, they handwaved a lazy way to leave the galaxy (and render the Reaper trap laughably pointless) Honestly, they would have been better off just leaving "Mass Effect" off the title, just call the series "Andromeda", and start fresh with zero Reaper baggage. THAT would have been walking away.
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Post by MegaIllusiveMan on May 11, 2020 21:02:31 GMT
Gotta be honest, I'm 50/50 on this one.
Gears of War had a great remaster, Mass Effect has floor to go along these lines as well. Improved Mako Controls, better combat movement, some HD here and there, and most importantly, an unique feel to all of the secondary mission bunkers/mines. And this just for the first game, the others could be just like Uncharted 2 and 3 "Remastered" to next-gen consoles (FPS and some textures here and there, but nothing like the major improvement Uncharted 1 for PS4 had compared to the PS3 one)
Other than that, I'm pretty happy with how my modded trilogy is, and how it improves and adds on things, mostly on ME3 that I, as of now, wouldn't trade for the things I've speculated above. But if they decide to add a few couple things and improve some aspects of the game in an unique way, without losing its essence (such as no remade endings), I'm gonna keep my eyes on it.
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Post by NotN7 on May 11, 2020 21:12:18 GMT
BioWare isn't running away from the end of Mass Effect 3. They are just aware of how people will react online if they don't get what they feel they deserve. Recall the online reactions to choices that weren't represented in a way the online playbase felt it should have been done. We saw those reactions in both Mass Effect 2 and amplified in Mass Effect 3 when the games didn't single out the choices an individual player wanted and it caused an online mess. It might not have been representative of everyone, but enough people screamed and yells and BioWare walked away. So BioWare has decided they don't want to try and work around all the choice mess of the first three games and starting over and no way they could get away with that with any kind of Shepard or Milky Way storyline. If they just "walked away" There'd have been no mention of Shepard, the Reapers, or anything from the OT. Instead, they handwaved a lazy way to leave the galaxy (and render the Reaper trap laughably pointless) Honestly, they would have been better off just leaving "Mass Effect" off the title, just call the series "Andromeda", and start fresh with zero Reaper baggage. THAT would have been walking away. Sorry but I totally disagree Andromeda started in the Mass effect era and deserves the Mass Effect title (hint me2/me3) when they left, now with that said yes it wasn't the greatest game but still I enjoyed it and yes reapers deserve to be the first part of the Andromeda story if an ME2 comes out if there is no mention of reapers etc from the milky way then to me MEA is progressing right along, now what's behind them and the reason why they left has been covered in MEA.
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