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Post by Sanunes on May 22, 2020 3:26:44 GMT
There's even one for Tali when you go get Garrus I believe. Nice. Well, it would certainly would be a good, minimal-effort, way of adding a bit of new content to look forward to for returning fans. There's a decent amount of cut on-disc scenes in Mass Effect 3 that they could restore as well but that might be asking too much. If they were cut there probably was some reason why which would mean probably a deeper code alteration to get them to work. That would then also mean there is a greater chance of making errors and screwing it up. Its not that its asking too much, but it might be a can of worms that once they start altering things a lot of problem unravel its why those movies were probably left there in the first place for the removal could have caused some problem elsewhere in the game and wouldn't find it prior to release.
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Post by KaiserShep on May 22, 2020 3:28:08 GMT
Nice. Well, it would certainly would be a good, minimal-effort, way of adding a bit of new content to look forward to for returning fans. There's a decent amount of cut on-disc scenes in Mass Effect 3 that they could restore as well but that might be asking too much. If they were cut there probably was some reason why which would mean probably a deeper code alteration to get them to work. That would then also mean there is a greater chance of making errors and screwing it up. Its not that its asking too much, but it might be a can of worms that once they start altering things a lot of problem unravel its why those movies were probably left there in the first place for the removal could have caused some problem elsewhere in the game and wouldn't find it prior to release. They probably tried to make the Mad Prophet a companion and it broke the game.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2020 6:33:59 GMT
I know what I posted. That doesn't mean I said a remaster is a remake. Do your research. Oh my God, this guy is such a literalist. Reads everything word for word.
Okay. Why are you asking for a remake, in a thread about a possible remaster? Sounds kind of off-topic.
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Post by ClarkKent on May 22, 2020 7:22:56 GMT
Nice. Well, it would certainly would be a good, minimal-effort, way of adding a bit of new content to look forward to for returning fans. There's a decent amount of cut on-disc scenes in Mass Effect 3 that they could restore as well but that might be asking too much. If they were cut there probably was some reason why which would mean probably a deeper code alteration to get them to work. That would then also mean there is a greater chance of making errors and screwing it up. Its not that its asking too much, but it might be a can of worms that once they start altering things a lot of problem unravel its why those movies were probably left there in the first place for the removal could have caused some problem elsewhere in the game and wouldn't find it prior to release. Well for the former, pc people can get that feature modded into their game so it can't be that difficult.
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Post by Sanunes on May 22, 2020 7:39:58 GMT
If they were cut there probably was some reason why which would mean probably a deeper code alteration to get them to work. That would then also mean there is a greater chance of making errors and screwing it up. Its not that its asking too much, but it might be a can of worms that once they start altering things a lot of problem unravel its why those movies were probably left there in the first place for the removal could have caused some problem elsewhere in the game and wouldn't find it prior to release. Well for the former, pc people can get that feature modded into their game so it can't be that difficult. Its not about difficulty adding it, but making sure it doesn't add more complications to the game or having things just outright break which people are more accepting when its a mod over something a developer did. Especially since if you mod it in you can turn off mods to get beyond the trouble point and with a developer adding it would mean that the game is stuck at that spot.
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Post by ClarkKent on May 22, 2020 8:31:44 GMT
Well for the former, pc people can get that feature modded into their game so it can't be that difficult. Its not about difficulty adding it, but making sure it doesn't add more complications to the game or having things just outright break which people are more accepting when its a mod over something a developer did. Especially since if you mod it in you can turn off mods to get beyond the trouble point and with a developer adding it would mean that the game is stuck at that spot. I'm sure they can find a way. But yes, I'm not expecting it to actually be in the remaster. It's not a feature many have really asked for or seem bothered by so the developers probably can't justify the effort - no matter how small.
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Post by SirSourpuss on May 22, 2020 13:59:37 GMT
Depends on the context of what the writing is. Alright, the writing completely fails to establish any plausible motive in a believable way, to garner such a reaction. For example; - Betray your friends - No, I am loyal to them - Dew eet - OK You show me that he does betray his friends, but you've spent an entire game telling me why he wouldn't and all it takes is one guy telling him to do so. This breaks the character. No subjectively, but objectively so. In the context of Episode 3 and Palpatine telling Anakin to just "Dew Eet", it makes sense, because Lucas had established since AoC that Anakin was impulsive, unstable, stubborn and very unforgiving. Specific examples would be useful here Liam being described as "level head" in his character description and going off the rails the moment he encounters his first non-familiar Andromeda alien. Peebee sneaking up to you, in your first encounter and then complaining to Ryder later about sneaking up on people. Two instances right off the top of my head and two that stuck with me.
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Post by KaiserShep on May 22, 2020 15:48:21 GMT
Specific examples would be useful here Liam being described as "level head" in his character description and going off the rails the moment he encounters his first non-familiar Andromeda alien. Peebee sneaking up to you, in your first encounter and then complaining to Ryder later about sneaking up on people. Two instances right off the top of my head and two that stuck with me. Regarding Liam, where did you read “level-headed”? The in-game codex contains no such description. Your description of him going “off the rails” at this first encounter with an Andromeda alien seems pretty hyperbolic. He doesn’t actually do or say anything particularly drastic in the Planetside prologue mission. If it’s not in the codex, then it would have to have been said by some other character somewhere in the game, in which case that’s not even a valid example at all, because things characters believe are not actual mandates for the writers. If one character believes another to be honest, but it turns out that character isn’t, that’s not a character break. It means the other character was simply mistaken in their belief. Peebee getting startled and making a very light complaint of no consequence (and frankly within the context of the dialogue sequence seems more like lighthearted banter than an actual complaint) is not really a meaningful character break, and it seems more like you’re reaching for things to serve as examples than finding a properly glaring flaw in character consistency. This ain’t exactly Daenerys level breaks from character.
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Post by themikefest on May 22, 2020 16:58:17 GMT
The traitor wasting ammo on a dead body is petty on his part. The enemy was already dead. But it makes sense after learning he's been suspended x number of times. He's a trouble maker. He lives up to that name in the game.
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Post by SirSourpuss on May 22, 2020 17:05:36 GMT
Regarding Liam, where did you read “level-headed”? From Liam's wiki pageLiam entered university for engineering but left to train for law enforcement. After a brief stint as a police officer, Liam later transitioned to the multi-species effort of Heavy Urban Search and Crisis Response. The human contingent—Heavy Urban Search-Terrain 1 (nicknamed "HUSTL")— reported that Liam performed exceptionally in all conditions.So, "Heavy Urban Search and Crisis Response" and "performed exceptionally in all conditions". And I have to stress the "crisis response". Usually, in a crisis response situation, you probably chosen, because you can keep a cool head. In Liam's first encounter with the Kett, he unloads several clips worth of fire on a single Kett corpse. Excuse me, if I do not consider that "performing exceptionally in all conditions". If I had performed similarly in the military, I would have been sent for a psych evaluation the next day. Peebee getting startled and making a very light complaint of no consequence That is contradictory to her own behaviour. is not really a meaningful character break Disagreeable. and it seems more like you’re reaching for things to serve as examples than finding a properly glaring flaw in character consistency 4U This ain’t exactly Daenerys level breaks from character. Thankfully not. But we shouldn't be striving for those levels to agree that something is character breaking.
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Post by KaiserShep on May 22, 2020 17:06:53 GMT
The traitor wasting ammo on a dead body is petty on his part. The enemy was already dead. But it makes sense after learning he's been suspended x number of times. He's a trouble maker. He lives up to that name in the game. Well shooting corpses is a popular trope, like when Joe in the Expanse shoots a guy a couple extra times after he kills him in cold blood. It kinda felt good to watch. On the bright side, companions never run out of ammo. They totally don't pay any taxes to the ammo economy.
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Post by KaiserShep on May 22, 2020 17:09:24 GMT
Regarding Liam, where did you read “level-headed”? From Liam's wiki pageLiam entered university for engineering but left to train for law enforcement. After a brief stint as a police officer, Liam later transitioned to the multi-species effort of Heavy Urban Search and Crisis Response. The human contingent—Heavy Urban Search-Terrain 1 (nicknamed "HUSTL")— reported that Liam performed exceptionally in all conditions.So, "Heavy Urban Search and Crisis Response" and "performed exceptionally in all conditions". And I have to stress the "crisis response". Usually, in a crisis response situation, you probably chosen, because you can keep a cool head. In Liam's first encounter with the Kett, he unloads several clips worth of fire on a single Kett corpse. Excuse me, if I do not consider that "performing exceptionally in all conditions". If I had performed similarly in the military, I would have been sent for a psych evaluation the next day. Peebee getting startled and making a very light complaint of no consequence That is contradictory to her own behaviour. is not really a meaningful character break Disagreeable. and it seems more like you’re reaching for things to serve as examples than finding a properly glaring flaw in character consistency 4U This ain’t exactly Daenerys level breaks from character. Thankfully not. But we shouldn't be striving for those levels to agree that something is character breaking. Yeah, you're basically reaching. Here I thought we'd have meaningful character breaks as examples.
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Post by SirSourpuss on May 22, 2020 17:20:51 GMT
Yeah, you're basically reaching. Here I thought we'd have meaningful character breaks as examples. While I wouldn't discount a complaint like that, especially Liam's case, you do you.
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Post by themikefest on May 22, 2020 17:35:23 GMT
Well shooting corpses is a popular trope, And? Don't know anything about the Joe character you mention in the expanse.
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Post by KaiserShep on May 22, 2020 17:48:23 GMT
Well shooting corpses is a popular trope, And?
I was kidding just a teensy bit, but what I'm getting at is that this is piddly throwaway stuff of little impact, but when there's a narrative to push, it gets laser-focused.
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Post by themikefest on May 22, 2020 18:09:15 GMT
I was kidding just a teensy bit, but what I'm getting at is that this is piddly throwaway stuff of little impact, but when there's a narrative to push, it gets laser-focused.
You're right the scene on Hab 7 has no impact. But for me, it made sense when Kosta mentioned he was suspended x number of times. Him saying that told me he's a trouble maker.
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Post by natetrace on May 22, 2020 19:20:54 GMT
Liam being described as "level head" in his character description and going off the rails the moment he encounters his first non-familiar Andromeda alien. Peebee sneaking up to you, in your first encounter and then complaining to Ryder later about sneaking up on people. Two instances right off the top of my head and two that stuck with me. Regarding Liam, where did you read “level-headed”? The in-game codex contains no such description. Your description of him going “off the rails” at this first encounter with an Andromeda alien seems pretty hyperbolic. He doesn’t actually do or say anything particularly drastic in the Planetside prologue mission. If it’s not in the codex, then it would have to have been said by some other character somewhere in the game, in which case that’s not even a valid example at all, because things characters believe are not actual mandates for the writers. If one character believes another to be honest, but it turns out that character isn’t, that’s not a character break. It means the other character was simply mistaken in their belief. Peebee getting startled and making a very light complaint of no consequence (and frankly within the context of the dialogue sequence seems more like lighthearted banter than an actual complaint) is not really a meaningful character break, and it seems more like you’re reaching for things to serve as examples than finding a properly glaring flaw in character consistency. This ain’t exactly Daenerys level breaks from character. Everyone always says she broke character, I say Daenerys was a nut back in season 2. At least I remember turning to my wife and saying she's gonna go nuts before it's over. PeeBee breaking character a bit makes sense to me. It makes sense Liam doesn't make sense to me as well. That's very Liam.
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Post by KaiserShep on May 23, 2020 3:21:47 GMT
Regarding Liam, where did you read “level-headed”? The in-game codex contains no such description. Your description of him going “off the rails” at this first encounter with an Andromeda alien seems pretty hyperbolic. He doesn’t actually do or say anything particularly drastic in the Planetside prologue mission. If it’s not in the codex, then it would have to have been said by some other character somewhere in the game, in which case that’s not even a valid example at all, because things characters believe are not actual mandates for the writers. If one character believes another to be honest, but it turns out that character isn’t, that’s not a character break. It means the other character was simply mistaken in their belief. Peebee getting startled and making a very light complaint of no consequence (and frankly within the context of the dialogue sequence seems more like lighthearted banter than an actual complaint) is not really a meaningful character break, and it seems more like you’re reaching for things to serve as examples than finding a properly glaring flaw in character consistency. This ain’t exactly Daenerys level breaks from character. Everyone always says she broke character, I say Daenerys was a nut back in season 2. At least I remember turning to my wife and saying she's gonna go nuts before it's over. PeeBee breaking character a bit makes sense to me. It makes sense Liam doesn't make sense to me as well. That's very Liam. If you look closely, you can see a shark in the distance that Daenerys flies over. If you turn the volume all the way up, you can here D&D laughing their asses off while they wallow in their hackulence.
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Post by Highwayman667 on May 23, 2020 14:59:03 GMT
The traitor wasting ammo on a dead body is petty on his part. The enemy was already dead. But it makes sense after learning he's been suspended x number of times. He's a trouble maker. He lives up to that name in the game. Not everyone always makes perfectly reasonable and logical actions you know
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Post by melbella on May 23, 2020 23:11:39 GMT
I say Daenerys was a nut back in season 2 She was a nut in Season 1 when she stood by while her (admittedly asshole) brother got his brain cooked in gold.
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Post by natetrace on May 24, 2020 0:22:18 GMT
I say Daenerys was a nut back in season 2 She was a nut in Season 1 when she stood by while her (admittedly asshole) brother got his brain cooked in gold. Good point. I let that one slide because he was an ass, but it's still pretty bad.
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Post by KaiserShep on May 25, 2020 11:37:02 GMT
I say Daenerys was a nut back in season 2 She was a nut in Season 1 when she stood by while her (admittedly asshole) brother got his brain cooked in gold. Well, why object? He was content to just use his sister as a plaything for the savage horde, and seemed to have a creepy incest-y hard-on for her. Getting turned into an Oscar award was as much a treat for me as it was for her lol
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Post by melbella on May 25, 2020 15:08:02 GMT
She was a nut in Season 1 when she stood by while her (admittedly asshole) brother got his brain cooked in gold. Well, why object? He was content to just use his sister as a plaything for the savage horde, and seemed to have a creepy incest-y hard-on for her. Getting turned into an Oscar award was as much a treat for me as it was for her lol Oh, I'm not saying he didn't deserve it....just that it provides early evidence of Danaerys having a screw loose and being quite ruthless in her methods of getting what she wants. Also burning the witch in the finale - she certainly comes up with creative ways to get her revenge. Not a mark of the sane, imo.
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Post by Highwayman667 on May 25, 2020 15:11:38 GMT
She was a nut in Season 1 when she stood by while her (admittedly asshole) brother got his brain cooked in gold. Well, why object? He was content to just use his sister as a plaything for the savage horde, and seemed to have a creepy incest-y hard-on for her. Getting turned into an Oscar award was as much a treat for me as it was for her lol To everyone really That was the first sign though, that something wasn't fully right with her. Regardless of wether someone is a violent and abusive individual, it is still normal to see said person being abused or mistreated themselves and feel some form of disgust and repulsion to violence.
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Post by cloud9 on May 27, 2020 8:16:39 GMT
I know what I posted. That doesn't mean I said a remaster is a remake. Do your research. Oh my God, this guy is such a literalist. Reads everything word for word.
Okay. Why are you asking for a remake, in a thread about a possible remaster? Sounds kind of off-topic. Maybe, its because people wanted a remake? Perhaps, there's some people who want a remake instead? Does it come cross across your mind that people wanted a remake, instead of a remaster?
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