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Post by sentinel87 on Jun 12, 2020 22:52:41 GMT
I hope a remaster comes out, I'm definitely interested. I'm also interesting to see if this would be remastered with the current gen consoles in mind or the recently announced next gen ones.
Either way I hope it comes to PC, which is my platform of choice.
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Post by Andrew Waples on Jun 13, 2020 0:28:21 GMT
Jeff Grubb @jeffgrubbWhile we're all happy about Star Wars: Squadrons (and since it's a Friday -- let's take out the trash). I think there's a strong likelihood that EA will not announce Mass Effect Trilogy remaster at EA Play. It's coming -- but it just might not take a slot at this event. Hey EA:
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Post by Dukemon on Jun 14, 2020 11:20:14 GMT
I would like a RemasterPlus. Mass Effect needs an Upgrade to look and Play like a Mass Effect 3. Reactivating the Kaidan Male Romance inclusive. Also some new Bug fixes for each title. Mass Effect 3 with new changes, hopefully with adoptation of MEHEM and the other Mods, and a Mission with mentioning the Andromeda Initiative. That would be cool. And Fan service. However, I do not mind why there could not be a Switch Version. The WiiU could run Mass Effect 3 in 1080p.
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Post by cloud9 on Jun 15, 2020 8:58:09 GMT
As a PC player, I don't really see the point of a remaster. The only thing that likely would get me interested would be a gameplay harmonization through all three games. Of course every game's system had its own charm, but for new players that doesn't matter and for old players I think it would be fun to be able to go through the whole trilogy with ME3s combat system - if I could choose one. That being said: sounds like a lot of work for me (especially ME1 with its different point/power system), so I'm not sure they tackle this topic. I don't see the point of a remaster at all. Especially the new consoles are coming out and upgraded gaming engines that will make remastering obsolete in my opinion. They might as well remake the first Mass Effect with a new engine, improved gameplay, level design, and story. Because the trilogy has a lot of redeemable qualities, and they can get Mass Effect back on track with a remake.
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Post by garrusfan1 on Jun 15, 2020 15:54:28 GMT
As a PC player, I don't really see the point of a remaster. The only thing that likely would get me interested would be a gameplay harmonization through all three games. Of course every game's system had its own charm, but for new players that doesn't matter and for old players I think it would be fun to be able to go through the whole trilogy with ME3s combat system - if I could choose one. That being said: sounds like a lot of work for me (especially ME1 with its different point/power system), so I'm not sure they tackle this topic. I don't see the point of a remaster at all. Especially the new consoles are coming out and upgraded gaming engines that will make remastering obsolete in my opinion. They might as well remake the first Mass Effect with a new engine, improved gameplay, level design, and story. Because the trilogy has a lot of redeemable qualities, and they can get Mass Effect back on track with a remake. With the exception of ME1 the series isn't that bad in terms of graphics and such. I say if they are gonna do a remaster they should wait until the next gen consoles have been out for a few years. A remake is a good idea though. Part of the problem with a remaster at this point is it would only appeal to console exclusive players Since the mass effect trilogy has a ton of mods that do everything from adding story to improving graphics and gameplay.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2020 15:58:05 GMT
A succesful remaster could net Bioware goodwill from the gaming community and the critics. After Andromeda and especially Anthem some unambiguously good press coverage is very much welcome, and since a remaster sticks overwhelmingly to the existing design the creative risks are minimal.
A remake, while nice, is not something that can be realistically expected. The fourth Dragon Age game is Bioware's premier venture and the nostalgic outcry over Mass Effect is not great enough that a remake is commercially or creatively viable.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Jun 15, 2020 16:36:44 GMT
A succesful remaster could net Bioware goodwill from the gaming community and the critics I don't see it.
Let's face it, it's not coming. I can't see EA releasing it without an announcement, at the very least, related to EA Play, I don't think they'll show it off in Gamescom, because it makes no sense and throwing it out, near the new console release, as a simple remaster, with no push at all, means its going to be dead on the water, on launch and maybe people will pick it up, 3 months later, when it will be down to $20. At which point it does nothing for the franchise and reassures nobody about the brand's survivability. At which case, I'd argue it's a worse move to release it, then not.
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Post by Hrungr on Jun 15, 2020 16:54:55 GMT
I don't see the point of a remaster at all. Especially the new consoles are coming out and upgraded gaming engines that will make remastering obsolete in my opinion. They might as well remake the first Mass Effect with a new engine, improved gameplay, level design, and story. Because the trilogy has a lot of redeemable qualities, and they can get Mass Effect back on track with a remake. With the exception of ME1 the series isn't that bad in terms of graphics and such. I say if they are gonna do a remaster they should wait until the next gen consoles have been out for a few years. A remake is a good idea though. Part of the problem with a remaster at this point is it would only appeal to console exclusive players Since the mass effect trilogy has a ton of mods that do everything from adding story to improving graphics and gameplay. While part of it is so that current and next gen console players can play it (it was a PS3/XB360 era series), the other reason is that it helps fill a hole in EA's lineup.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Jun 15, 2020 17:08:50 GMT
While part of it is so that current and next gen console players can play it (it was a PS3/XB360 era series) The Series X is compatible all the way back to the original XBOX. Mass Effect didn't see much adoption on the SONY side, but even the PS5 is backward compatible, with a large library of games. I wouldn't be surprised if the MET is one of those 4k games. I doubt there were 4k games released on the PS4 alone. PC already has access to a version better than anything EA could cook up, unless we are talking of a complete overhaul of the entire trilogy, down to the polygon count level of every in game model. Which is just not going to happen. the other reason is that it helps fill a hole in EA's lineup. I've given it my prediction; it's going to sell 200k copies tops, on launch. It's simply going to remind people how better ME used to be, compared to now and how bad Bioware dropped the ball on ME3. If EA needed to fill a hole there, they'd be better off remastering an old NFS game, or a Battlefield.
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Post by Iakus on Jun 15, 2020 18:02:38 GMT
A succesful remaster could net Bioware goodwill from the gaming community and the critics. After Andromeda and especially Anthem some unambiguously good press coverage is very much welcome, and since a remaster sticks overwhelmingly to the existing design the creative risks are minimal. A remake, while nice, is not something that can be realistically expected. The fourth Dragon Age game is Bioware's premier venture and the nostalgic outcry over Mass Effect is not great enough that a remake is commercially or creatively viable. While I'd like to believe that's true, Bioware seems determined to keep sinking resources into keeping Anthem on life support atm...
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Post by Sanunes on Jun 15, 2020 19:07:18 GMT
A succesful remaster could net Bioware goodwill from the gaming community and the critics. After Andromeda and especially Anthem some unambiguously good press coverage is very much welcome, and since a remaster sticks overwhelmingly to the existing design the creative risks are minimal. A remake, while nice, is not something that can be realistically expected. The fourth Dragon Age game is Bioware's premier venture and the nostalgic outcry over Mass Effect is not great enough that a remake is commercially or creatively viable. While I'd like ot believe that's true, Bioware seems determined to keep sinking resources into keeping Anthem on life support atm... Maybe they are continuing supporting Anthem because so many people complained when they stopped supporting Andromeda while that would have been just sinking resources into a bad game according to many.
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Post by Sanunes on Jun 15, 2020 19:19:07 GMT
While part of it is so that current and next gen console players can play it (it was a PS3/XB360 era series) The Series X is compatible all the way back to the original XBOX. Mass Effect didn't see much adoption on the SONY side, but even the PS5 is backward compatible, with a large library of games. I wouldn't be surprised if the MET is one of those 4k games. I doubt there were 4k games released on the PS4 alone. PC already has access to a version better than anything EA could cook up, unless we are talking of a complete overhaul of the entire trilogy, down to the polygon count level of every in game model. Which is just not going to happen. the other reason is that it helps fill a hole in EA's lineup. I've given it my prediction; it's going to sell 200k copies tops, on launch. It's simply going to remind people how better ME used to be, compared to now and how bad Bioware dropped the ball on ME3. If EA needed to fill a hole there, they'd be better off remastering an old NFS game, or a Battlefield. I agree, I think they would be better off just making sure that Sony makes the original games backwards compatible or even just making sure the trilogy is on EA access for Sony platforms. I doubt any remake will make the game that much different then what already exists. Also I doubt that Mass Effect being used to fill an empty slot it would be better off to re-release something else that has a larger fanbase to get more sales.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2020 19:50:05 GMT
A succesful remaster could net Bioware goodwill from the gaming community and the critics. After Andromeda and especially Anthem some unambiguously good press coverage is very much welcome, and since a remaster sticks overwhelmingly to the existing design the creative risks are minimal. A remake, while nice, is not something that can be realistically expected. The fourth Dragon Age game is Bioware's premier venture and the nostalgic outcry over Mass Effect is not great enough that a remake is commercially or creatively viable. While I'd like ot believe that's true, Bioware seems determined to keep sinking resources into keeping Anthem on life support atm... The 'Good' news from the last Anthem update is that only about 30 people are currently involved. That must leave plenty of manpower for Dragon Age, though I don't expect any significant news on this front news until the coroner will offically declare Anthem to be lifeless. I hope we'll see in the coming months what Bioware future plans are, the last few years haven't been too kind on them, and any respite they can get would be welcome.
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Post by KaiserShep on Jun 15, 2020 21:00:35 GMT
While part of it is so that current and next gen console players can play it (it was a PS3/XB360 era series) The Series X is compatible all the way back to the original XBOX. Mass Effect didn't see much adoption on the SONY side, but even the PS5 is backward compatible, with a large library of games. I wouldn't be surprised if the MET is one of those 4k games. I doubt there were 4k games released on the PS4 alone. PC already has access to a version better than anything EA could cook up, unless we are talking of a complete overhaul of the entire trilogy, down to the polygon count level of every in game model. Which is just not going to happen. the other reason is that it helps fill a hole in EA's lineup. I've given it my prediction; it's going to sell 200k copies tops, on launch. It's simply going to remind people how better ME used to be, compared to now and how bad Bioware dropped the ball on ME3. If EA needed to fill a hole there, they'd be better off remastering an old NFS game, or a Battlefield. Oh man I realllllly hope that thing is backward compatible to at least PS3. I’d be happier than a fox in a henhouse.
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Post by themikefest on Jun 15, 2020 21:30:59 GMT
Part of the problem with a remaster at this point is it would only appeal to console exclusive players While true, I can see folks who play on the computer get the remaster as well. Those people can be new players, players who have the games, but not the dlc, if the dlc is included in the price. A succesful remaster could net Bioware goodwill from the gaming community and the critics. And it will give something for the players to play while waiting for the next ME game to be released. I don't see it happening, but if it did, I wouldn't have a problem. My only concern, if a remake were to happen, is how many of the va's would return, and if none, what my thoughts would be to hearing a different voice for Shepard and other characters. I've given it my prediction; it's going to sell 200k copies tops, on launch. Is that the first week? As I've said before. I believe a remaster will sell better than MEA. Of course time will answer that.
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Post by redeem on Jun 15, 2020 22:06:55 GMT
I would bet money that a remastered trilogy would easily outsell Andromeda. Anecdotally speaking, I only played on PS3 and never made the switch to PC to experience the mods that made ME3 serviceable down to the ending. If a remaster came out, I would jump at the chance to do so and buy it for PC. Andromeda (and to a lesser extent Anthem) are a blight on a once great game developer that has slowly gotten worse since the ME3 ending debacle.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Jun 15, 2020 23:14:27 GMT
Is that the first week? As I've said before. I believe a remaster will sell better than MEA. Of course time will answer that. I don't see it. An HD remaster of KotoR would not sell as well today, for example and I don't expect a remaster of ME3, for $60, to sell more, when you can already play it on next gen consoles, with backward compatibility and the enhanced next gen features that will be able to give you a better experience. Anyone that wanted to own the games and the DLC, at this point, already own it. Unless this texture pack, which is basically what the remaster will be, is free, there's zero incentive to waste $60 on it. I don't see it selling more than that, until if falls to something more palatable, like $20. I would bet money that a remastered trilogy would easily outsell Andromeda 2.5 million copies in 3 months? I don't see it. I find it unlikely that a fall release of ME3, which is usually packed with new games and now the new consoles launch and the next gen titles that will go along with it, anyone will their time with a remaster of a game, from 8 years ago, 2 console gens removed. I don't see it. What I would really like, is for Bioware to communicate to us what they hope to achieve by releasing a remastered trilogy. There is a reason they are doing it, if they're really doing it and some transparency would go a long way. See, it is easy for me to give money to Bioware, but things change and what money might be there for Bioware one day, may be gone the next. It is an iterative procedure. Was that enough PR memes? I think so.
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Post by Sanunes on Jun 15, 2020 23:48:09 GMT
Is that the first week? As I've said before. I believe a remaster will sell better than MEA. Of course time will answer that. I don't see it. An HD remaster of KotoR would not sell as well today, for example and I don't expect a remaster of ME3, for $60, to sell more, when you can already play it on next gen consoles, with backward compatibility and the enhanced next gen features that will be able to give you a better experience. Anyone that wanted to own the games and the DLC, at this point, already own it. Unless this texture pack, which is basically what the remaster will be, is free, there's zero incentive to waste $60 on it. I don't see it selling more than that, until if falls to something more palatable, like $20. I would bet money that a remastered trilogy would easily outsell Andromeda 2.5 million copies in 3 months? I don't see it. I find it unlikely that a fall release of ME3, which is usually packed with new games and now the new consoles launch and the next gen titles that will go along with it, anyone will their time with a remaster of a game, from 8 years ago, 2 console gens removed. I don't see it. What I would really like, is for Bioware to communicate to us what they hope to achieve by releasing a remastered trilogy. There is a reason they are doing it, if they're really doing it and some transparency would go a long way. See, it is easy for me to give money to Bioware, but things change and what money might be there for Bioware one day, may be gone the next. It is an iterative procedure. Was that enough PR memes? I think so. The thing I am finding odd with this entire conversation is that people are talking like the remake is a done deal based on I think two outlets claiming they have sources that are telling them that this is happening, people being quiet on the issue doesn't give extra confirmation for me either. Until its officially announced I am not going to expect BioWare to say anything because there might be nothing to say on the matter, if they do have an official release announcement on the subject I expect they would try to explain why because that is how they are going to sell it. Just as a comparison there was a leak about Star Wars: Squadrons I think one week ago and they went straight into PR mode and acknowledged the game is coming and now released the trailer for it.
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Post by themikefest on Jun 16, 2020 0:35:30 GMT
I don't see it. An HD remaster of KotoR would not sell as well today, for example and I don't expect a remaster of ME3, for $60, ME3? Isn't the thread about remastering the trilogy? You know, ME1/2/3? Is that so? I like to that on my ps4, but it doesn't have that capability. Really? The thing I am finding odd with this entire conversation is that people are talking like the remake is a done deal based on I think two outlets claiming they have sources that are telling them that this is happening, Who is talking like a remake is a done deal? Or do you mean remaster?
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Post by SirSourpuss on Jun 16, 2020 0:53:48 GMT
ME3? Isn't the thread about remastering the trilogy? You know, ME1/2/3? Yeah, sorry, meant MET. Is that so? I like to that on my ps4, but it doesn't have that capability. Well, there's no guarantee this will be available for PS4 at all. What if it is for PS5 only? What if the existing MET is compatible with the PS5, so you don't even have to buy the remaster? Unless, of course, you only intend to play on your PS4 and not move on to new consoles. Which is a legitimate problem then, but would this be EA's target demographic? It's been 8 years. I assume so.
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Post by Sanunes on Jun 16, 2020 0:59:58 GMT
I don't see it. An HD remaster of KotoR would not sell as well today, for example and I don't expect a remaster of ME3, for $60, ME3? Isn't the thread about remastering the trilogy? You know, ME1/2/3? Is that so? I like to that on my ps4, but it doesn't have that capability. Really? The thing I am finding odd with this entire conversation is that people are talking like the remake is a done deal based on I think two outlets claiming they have sources that are telling them that this is happening, Who is talking like a remake is a done deal? Or do you mean remaster? Yeah, remaster it was a typo.
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Post by cloud9 on Jun 16, 2020 8:34:56 GMT
I don't see the point of a remaster at all. Especially the new consoles are coming out and upgraded gaming engines that will make remastering obsolete in my opinion. They might as well remake the first Mass Effect with a new engine, improved gameplay, level design, and story. Because the trilogy has a lot of redeemable qualities, and they can get Mass Effect back on track with a remake. With the exception of ME1 the series isn't that bad in terms of graphics and such. I say if they are gonna do a remaster they should wait until the next gen consoles have been out for a few years. A remake is a good idea though. Part of the problem with a remaster at this point is it would only appeal to console exclusive players Since the mass effect trilogy has a ton of mods that do everything from adding story to improving graphics and gameplay. I agree.
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Post by KaiserShep on Jun 16, 2020 10:28:30 GMT
I would bet money that a remastered trilogy would easily outsell Andromeda. Anecdotally speaking, I only played on PS3 and never made the switch to PC to experience the mods that made ME3 serviceable down to the ending. If a remaster came out, I would jump at the chance to do so and buy it for PC. Andromeda (and to a lesser extent Anthem) are a blight on a once great game developer that has slowly gotten worse since the ME3 ending debacle. It probably wouldn't. The fact that a remaster is nothing more than a texture and sound enhanced product leaves the PC crowd out of the equation. It would likely be more geared toward next-gen consoles, since even if the PS5 turns out to be fully backward compatible for the PS3 version, players would definitely not want to subject themselves to the low resolution of the originals.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Jun 16, 2020 13:35:32 GMT
players would definitely not want to subject themselves to the low resolution of the originals Didn't I read that AMD's RIS will find its way into both next gen consoles, as well as upscaling, VRR etc.? Hardware unboxed did a video, where a 1080p upscaled with RIS looked just as good, sometimes even a little better, depending on the game, than native 4k, with a mere 1-2% hit on performance. Vastly better performance for virtually no loss in graphics quality. I game 1440p on my RX 580 and I can say that, with RIS at a recommended 78% setting, it's mind blowing crisp, on every game I've played so far. Also, RIS, upscaling etc. are enabled on the driver level and don't need to be enabled in engine. Meaning that no update is needed for these games, so the dev doesn't need to do anything to implement it.
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Post by KaiserShep on Jun 16, 2020 13:41:29 GMT
players would definitely not want to subject themselves to the low resolution of the originals Didn't I read that AMD's RIS will find its way into both next gen consoles, as well as upscaling, VRR etc.? Hardware unboxed did a video, where a 1080p upscaled with RIS looked just as good, sometimes even a little better, depending on the game, than native 4k, with a mere 1-2% hit on performance. Vastly better performance for virtually no loss in graphics quality. I game 1440p on my RX 580 and I can say that, with RIS at a recommended 78% setting, it's mind blowing crisp, on every game I've played so far. Also, RIS, upscaling etc. are enabled on the driver level and don't need to be enabled in engine. Meaning that no update is needed for these games, so the dev doesn't need to do anything to implement it. If that's the case, that's even less incentive. As one who owns just about every bit of digital content Mass Effect has to offer, save for Pinnacle Station, a "remaster" would need to offer a LOT to get me to bother when I could just use my old purchase.
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