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Post by gothpunkboy89 on Jun 16, 2020 14:01:44 GMT
Why do people seem to think BioWare is doing the remastering? Most remaster games are created by a 3rd party developer, usually a small company that doesn't really put out games on their own. It is rare for the company that made the game to do a remaster of the game.
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Post by themikefest on Jun 16, 2020 14:24:04 GMT
If the ps5 ends up being backwards compatible for the ps3, I would still buy a remaster of the trilogy. Why? Because I can, and it's possible the remaster would include the pinnacle station dlc. For some reason pinnacle station isn't available to play on the ps3.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Jun 16, 2020 14:28:10 GMT
If the ps5 ends up being backwards compatible for the ps3, I would still buy a remaster of the trilogy. Why? Because I can, and it's possible the remaster would include the pinnacle station dlc. For some reason pinnacle station isn't available to play on the ps3. I played it recently. I dread playing it again.
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Post by Hrungr on Jun 16, 2020 15:57:08 GMT
I would bet money that a remastered trilogy would easily outsell Andromeda. Anecdotally speaking, I only played on PS3 and never made the switch to PC to experience the mods that made ME3 serviceable down to the ending. If a remaster came out, I would jump at the chance to do so and buy it for PC. Andromeda (and to a lesser extent Anthem) are a blight on a once great game developer that has slowly gotten worse since the ME3 ending debacle. It probably wouldn't. The fact that a remaster is nothing more than a texture and sound enhanced product leaves the PC crowd out of the equation. It would likely be more geared toward next-gen consoles, since even if the PS5 turns out to be fully backward compatible for the PS3 version, players would definitely not want to subject themselves to the low resolution of the originals. I wouldn't write off PC sales because of mods - think of it like Skyrim Special Edition. Skyrim has a modding community vastly larger than ME, and the SE looked nowhere near as good as the modded original, yet the SE flourished because the codebase moved to 64 bit and was far more stable. Modders just moved over. PS and XB get the benefit of better graphics, etc., potentially a lot better, but let's just wait and see what they did with it...
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Post by SirSourpuss on Jun 16, 2020 16:45:10 GMT
Modders moved over. That was incentive enough for the player base to follow. I don't see the ME modding community moving over to mod the games over, especially ME3, to be on par with the MET on PC today. PS and XB get the benefit of better graphics, etc., potentially a lot better I don't think I'd call a texture pack "a lot" better. You can't redo the in game models, without re-riging them, potentially causing problems with the animations attached to them. Which causes a whole lot more problems. Basically, you'd have to redo the animations of all three games from scratch. It's not happening.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Jun 16, 2020 21:30:55 GMT
-Remake of all 3 games in Frostbite -In development since 2017 -Trailer coming after EA Play -Release on N7 day -Andromeda Combat -Overhauled graphics -Restored Cut Content -Hubworlds expanded -Minor additions to content -No expanded crews -Endings stay the same -All DLC included I don't see it. Not all this, for a remake. Keeping the shortened ME3 crew and the endings feels like a wasted opportunity, as well.
It feels stupid to go through all this, to come out in the same end of the same stick. Which sounds right up Bioware's alley, even after the first death of ME. So let's kill it a second time
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Post by N7eezo on Jun 16, 2020 22:25:36 GMT
-Remake of all 3 games in Frostbite -In development since 2017 -Trailer coming after EA Play -Release on N7 day -Andromeda Combat -Overhauled graphics -Restored Cut Content -Hubworlds expanded -Minor additions to content -No expanded crews -Endings stay the same -All DLC included I don't see it. Not all this, for a remake. Keeping the shortened ME3 crew and the endings feels like a wasted opportunity, as well.
It feels stupid to go through all this, to come out in the same end of the same stick. Which sounds right up Bioware's alley, even after the first death of ME. So let's kill it a second time ? is this a wishlist or from some game/industry/bioware insider who might know?
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Post by SirSourpuss on Jun 16, 2020 22:36:40 GMT
is this a wishlist or from some game/industry/bioware insider who might know? Supposedly the latter. Supposedly. Not my imaginary friend, the spaghetti monster. It seems like fanfic, to me. There's no way you'd spend this much money on this. It's too expensive, too big, too resource consuming, especially since it implies it was being worked in house, simultaneously with Anthem, during crunch, but only went into full production after Anthem launched, when Bioware was scrambling to fix the basics, and basically made 7 years worth of work in 3, while being supported by other studios. It's a bad bait attempt.
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Post by Sanunes on Jun 16, 2020 23:57:51 GMT
-Remake of all 3 games in Frostbite -In development since 2017 -Trailer coming after EA Play -Release on N7 day -Andromeda Combat -Overhauled graphics -Restored Cut Content -Hubworlds expanded -Minor additions to content -No expanded crews -Endings stay the same -All DLC included I don't see it. Not all this, for a remake. Keeping the shortened ME3 crew and the endings feels like a wasted opportunity, as well.
It feels stupid to go through all this, to come out in the same end of the same stick. Which sounds right up Bioware's alley, even after the first death of ME. So let's kill it a second time Even if it has been in development since 2017 I don't see how they can do a remake of all three games and even have it done before the next Dragon Age game. A lot of those things are a bit of a "duh" if they are really remaking the games in Frostbite because that is the defacto engine so Andromeda combat makes sense because of Frostbite idea along with overhauled graphics. What I don't get with that list is why delay the trailer to after EA Play. Why wouldn't you want to show it when debuting all the other games and things to help increase the awareness, its not like EA is only being given 30min they can take as long as they want.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Jun 17, 2020 0:15:39 GMT
SanunesIt's a remake. This isn't a remaster, this is a remake. I've never seen a remaster change engines, get updated graphics, including models, having to reanimate the entire game from scratch, in an engine Bioware has been notoriously known to have had problems with, went into full production just the past year, when the last 4 months Edmonton has been in quarantine and all this ready for November. Also, Mac Walters is leading the project. NOT Mike Gamble. If it smells like bullshit, it probably is bullshit. And this smells like, hoo boy. It smells like refined bullshit. It's not happening.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jun 17, 2020 2:21:40 GMT
All of the DLC from the base game has been added to the remaster and are considered main quests so you cant miss them. Some cut content has also been included. About five hours worth. Also something else that is new. If you play as Female Shepard you can also sleep with Aria after the Omega Mission as long as you are not currently in a relationship with anyone else. Apparently Aria doesn't like that. Like the ME2 Remaster they have made the game "more adult" as in certain romance scenes/environments are no longer strategically "non nude".
They have also added a bit more to the ending of the game. Any romance interest you have assuming they are still alive will be able to have a physical in person goodbye with Shepard before the final mission.
I hope that doesn't mean they made Kelly's romance explicitly sexual. Also I'm guessing she'll be excluded from the last part since she's on the Citadel, despite being a romance (even grants you the achievement in ME3).
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Post by Phantom on Jun 17, 2020 2:42:01 GMT
All of the DLC from the base game has been added to the remaster and are considered main quests so you cant miss them. Some cut content has also been included. About five hours worth. Also something else that is new. If you play as Female Shepard you can also sleep with Aria after the Omega Mission as long as you are not currently in a relationship with anyone else. Apparently Aria doesn't like that. Like the ME2 Remaster they have made the game "more adult" as in certain romance scenes/environments are no longer strategically "non nude".
They have also added a bit more to the ending of the game. Any romance interest you have assuming they are still alive will be able to have a physical in person goodbye with Shepard before the final mission.
I hope that doesn't mean they made Kelly's romance explicitly sexual. Also I'm guessing she'll be excluded from the last part since she's on the Citadel, despite being a romance (even grants you the achievement in ME3). to me, explicitly sexual should be optional when going thru any play thru. With me, I usually go with Celibate Shepard because he is the type of guy that is a bit of an emotional reserved individual.
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Post by themikefest on Jun 17, 2020 2:59:48 GMT
They have also added a bit more to the ending of the game. Any romance interest you have assuming they are still alive will be able to have a physical in person goodbye with Shepard before the final mission. So Jack and Miranda, and possibly Steve will be at the forward operating base? That's nice and all for those who romance Lawson and Jack, but I would guess those folks would also like to have both on the ship to hold Shepard's nameplate. Would Traynor show up at the forward operating base? If Sam and Steve don't show up, why not have them show up during the what-the-crap evac scene? That would be a good time for a last bit of dialogue for them with Shepard. They are both on the ship at that time. In regards to Felicia Hannigan. It would be hard for her to show up since she is on the Citadel. Could a holo-bye be added for her?
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Post by alanc9 on Jun 17, 2020 3:02:13 GMT
It's an...interesting rumor. I can't see the business case for it actually being made. OTOH, I didn't see the point of a remaster in the first place, and this has enough new stuff that I might actually consider buying it. So...
Nah. Still a fake.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jun 17, 2020 3:25:12 GMT
All of the DLC from the base game has been added to the remaster and are considered main quests so you cant miss them. Some cut content has also been included. About five hours worth. Also something else that is new. If you play as Female Shepard you can also sleep with Aria after the Omega Mission as long as you are not currently in a relationship with anyone else. Apparently Aria doesn't like that. Like the ME2 Remaster they have made the game "more adult" as in certain romance scenes/environments are no longer strategically "non nude".
They have also added a bit more to the ending of the game. Any romance interest you have assuming they are still alive will be able to have a physical in person goodbye with Shepard before the final mission.
I hope that doesn't mean they made Kelly's romance explicitly sexual. Also I'm guessing she'll be excluded from the last part since she's on the Citadel, despite being a romance (even grants you the achievement in ME3). to me, explicitly sexual should be optional when going thru any play thru. With me, I usually go with Celibate Shepard because he is the type of guy that is a bit of an emotional reserved individual. Yeah, it should be. Also I think they should have made Tali's romance explicitly non-sexual, since they could explore that whereas her having sex with Shepard trivializes the whole situation her species is in. They have also added a bit more to the ending of the game. Any romance interest you have assuming they are still alive will be able to have a physical in person goodbye with Shepard before the final mission. So Jack and Miranda, and possibly Steve will be at the forward operating base? That's nice and all for those who romance Lawson and Jack, but I would guess those folks would also like to have both on the ship to hold Shepard's nameplate. Would Traynor show up at the forward operating base? If Sam and Steve don't show up, why not have them show up during the what-the-crap evac scene? That would be a good time for a last bit of dialogue for them with Shepard. They are both on the ship at that time. In regards to Felicia Hannigan. It would be hard for her to show up since she is on the Citadel. Could a holo-bye be added for her? Unlikely, since by the times of the goodbye scene I doubt anyone on the Citadel would be able to make calls for a number of reasons. She'd only be able to do it if she was on the Normandy, but they apparently aren't doing that.
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Post by Iakus on Jun 17, 2020 4:06:39 GMT
All of the DLC from the base game has been added to the remaster and are considered main quests so you cant miss them. Some cut content has also been included. About five hours worth. Also something else that is new. If you play as Female Shepard you can also sleep with Aria after the Omega Mission as long as you are not currently in a relationship with anyone else. Apparently Aria doesn't like that. Like the ME2 Remaster they have made the game "more adult" as in certain romance scenes/environments are no longer strategically "non nude".
They have also added a bit more to the ending of the game. Any romance interest you have assuming they are still alive will be able to have a physical in person goodbye with Shepard before the final mission.
I hope that doesn't mean they made Kelly's romance explicitly sexual. Also I'm guessing she'll be excluded from the last part since she's on the Citadel, despite being a romance (even grants you the achievement in ME3). Don't worry, I'm calling BS on this. If there's a remastered trilogy it would either be just just a graphics update (still on the Unreal engine) or a complete re-do. This "same but not" nonsense would be more trouble than it's worth.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jun 17, 2020 4:09:14 GMT
All of the DLC from the base game has been added to the remaster and are considered main quests so you cant miss them. Some cut content has also been included. About five hours worth. Also something else that is new. If you play as Female Shepard you can also sleep with Aria after the Omega Mission as long as you are not currently in a relationship with anyone else. Apparently Aria doesn't like that. Like the ME2 Remaster they have made the game "more adult" as in certain romance scenes/environments are no longer strategically "non nude".
They have also added a bit more to the ending of the game. Any romance interest you have assuming they are still alive will be able to have a physical in person goodbye with Shepard before the final mission.
I hope that doesn't mean they made Kelly's romance explicitly sexual. Also I'm guessing she'll be excluded from the last part since she's on the Citadel, despite being a romance (even grants you the achievement in ME3). Don't worry, I'm calling BS on this. If there's a remastered trilogy it would either be just just a graphics update (still on the Unreal engine) or a complete re-do. This "same but not" nonsense would be more trouble than it's worth. Oh, I don't believe this "leak" for a moment. I was just addressing it as if it was true. And yeah, I don't think they'd do this middle of the road thing either. Like you said, it would either be a fresh coat of paint (like most remasters) or it would be a complete remake (in which it would not be ready yet).
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Post by Sanunes on Jun 17, 2020 5:11:09 GMT
All of the DLC from the base game has been added to the remaster and are considered main quests so you cant miss them. Some cut content has also been included. About five hours worth. Also something else that is new. If you play as Female Shepard you can also sleep with Aria after the Omega Mission as long as you are not currently in a relationship with anyone else. Apparently Aria doesn't like that. Like the ME2 Remaster they have made the game "more adult" as in certain romance scenes/environments are no longer strategically "non nude".
They have also added a bit more to the ending of the game. Any romance interest you have assuming they are still alive will be able to have a physical in person goodbye with Shepard before the final mission.
I hope that doesn't mean they made Kelly's romance explicitly sexual. Also I'm guessing she'll be excluded from the last part since she's on the Citadel, despite being a romance (even grants you the achievement in ME3). Don't worry, I'm calling BS on this. If there's a remastered trilogy it would either be just just a graphics update (still on the Unreal engine) or a complete re-do. This "same but not" nonsense would be more trouble than it's worth. I think that is the best way to put it. Its either going to become running the game at max setting on the PC at 4K@60fps or a complete redesign of the game. I don't see a middle of the road approach working for I don't think they could remake things exactly the way they were in the past. The only exception to that would be how DLC might be handled, but I think the best example of what to expect for a remaster is what EA did with Command and Conquer. It was outsourced and had bolt on improvements such as a new UI that supported modern resolutions with a few quality of life improvements. The biggest change would be the new unit graphics, but all that was is a higher pixel count and more animations while the AI stayed the same because it broke other elements of the game when they tried to alter it.
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Post by gothpunkboy89 on Jun 17, 2020 14:07:50 GMT
to me, explicitly sexual should be optional when going thru any play thru. With me, I usually go with Celibate Shepard because he is the type of guy that is a bit of an emotional reserved individual. Yeah, it should be. Also I think they should have made Tali's romance explicitly non-sexual, since they could explore that whereas her having sex with Shepard trivializes the whole situation her species is in. How so? The situation isn't that they can't have physical contact with people it is that they have strong allergic reactions to it direct physical contact due to their immune system becoming hyper sensitive over the years of living in clean rooms. The fact post romance scene Tali talks about the after effects of the encounter with her having side effects of skin on skin contact.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jun 17, 2020 14:36:42 GMT
Yeah, it should be. Also I think they should have made Tali's romance explicitly non-sexual, since they could explore that whereas her having sex with Shepard trivializes the whole situation her species is in. How so? The situation isn't that they can't have physical contact with people it is that they have strong allergic reactions to it direct physical contact due to their immune system becoming hyper sensitive over the years of living in clean rooms. The fact post romance scene Tali talks about the after effects of the encounter with her having side effects of skin on skin contact. Well, even that puts their situation in much less dire straits than earlier in that game when she has her outburst, but I was thinking more her dialogue in ME3 after the scene where she talks about how her system is completely adapted after only a few times with you. That made it seem trivial if only taking lots of medicine a few times makes you immune then why can't all the Quarians do that with some planet?
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Post by gothpunkboy89 on Jun 17, 2020 22:21:20 GMT
How so? The situation isn't that they can't have physical contact with people it is that they have strong allergic reactions to it direct physical contact due to their immune system becoming hyper sensitive over the years of living in clean rooms. The fact post romance scene Tali talks about the after effects of the encounter with her having side effects of skin on skin contact. Well, even that puts their situation in much less dire straits than earlier in that game when she has her outburst, but I was thinking more her dialogue in ME3 after the scene where she talks about how her system is completely adapted after only a few times with you. That made it seem trivial if only taking lots of medicine a few times makes you immune then why can't all the Quarians do that with some planet? Because every shown interaction takes place on a controlled and at least semi sterile environment and a planet is the complete opposite of that in every way shape or form. It is the same reason why hospitals do not perform surgery outside unless there is a literal war going on around them and they have no other choice. The same reason why you might engage in the occasional french kiss with your partner but you wouldn't lick a random wild squirrel. Plus ME2 seems to hint that Mordin helped out Tali get ready for it in ME2. And that is like having Steven Hawking helping you with your algebra homework.
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Post by Andrew Waples on Jun 17, 2020 22:48:18 GMT
It smells fishy. It's the classic "I work at X" leak. Couple of questions: OP should know they're breaking NDA, if OP wants to work in the industry they wouldn't risk leaking it. Also, why is it posted in the Andromeda subreddit? Weird.
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Post by Hrungr on Jun 17, 2020 22:56:52 GMT
It smells fishy. It's the classic "I work at X" leak. Yup. Unless an actual insider chimes in on it, it's just random Reddit rumor #45,662.
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Post by KaiserShep on Jun 18, 2020 0:38:13 GMT
Yeah, it should be. Also I think they should have made Tali's romance explicitly non-sexual, since they could explore that whereas her having sex with Shepard trivializes the whole situation her species is in. How so? The situation isn't that they can't have physical contact with people it is that they have strong allergic reactions to it direct physical contact due to their immune system becoming hyper sensitive over the years of living in clean rooms. The fact post romance scene Tali talks about the after effects of the encounter with her having side effects of skin on skin contact.
In ME2, Tali says that just being exposed in her own home can result in death. Being exposed to a human aboard a human ship, which has none of the restrictions or quarantine protocols of a quarian ship, she would be at far greater risk. I don't have particularly strong feelings about it, especially since I roll FemShep and can't even romance her anyway, but it feels a bit cheap in the fanservice department, like Shep's little Normandy is just that magical. A relationship that's forced to be platonic due to her situation would probably have been more interesting, I think.
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