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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Sept 13, 2020 16:24:45 GMT
^Sorry - too vague to be at all helpful. Apparently, you've learned something that dashes your desires/expectations in some way. Dragon Age: Inquisition ends with a completed story. Trespasser comes out, unraveling that for the game and protagonist. DA4 shows that it will be a new protagonist, leaving the above unfinished thus ruined. I don't want Ryder and MEA to suffer the same fate, so that's why while I used to want DLC now I'm glad it didn't.
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Post by KaiserShep on Sept 13, 2020 17:05:27 GMT
^Sorry - too vague to be at all helpful. Apparently, you've learned something that dashes your desires/expectations in some way. Dragon Age: Inquisition ends with a completed story. Trespasser comes out, unraveling that for the game and protagonist. DA4 shows that it will be a new protagonist, leaving the above unfinished thus ruined. I don't want Ryder and MEA to suffer the same fate, so that's why while I used to want DLC now I'm glad it didn't. The reveal of Solas as not only being the one that allowed Corypheus to get the orb, but also the Dread Wolf himself, means that Inquisition’s story was in fact not completed. He was the real culprit, and the base game never resolved this.
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Post by KaiserShep on Sept 13, 2020 17:07:35 GMT
I'm glad MEA didn't get any DLC. It would have just taken a good story and character, ripped them apart to tease something, and then throw them away like trash. Just like Trespasser. I think this distress over Trespasser has made you a bit unreasonable. There’s no reason to believe that what Trespasser’s story entailed means that BioWare would follow that exact story path at all for Ryder & Co.. By this logic, you would hope that BioWare never make DLC for any of their games again for the same reason.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Sept 13, 2020 17:08:08 GMT
Dragon Age: Inquisition ends with a completed story. Trespasser comes out, unraveling that for the game and protagonist. DA4 shows that it will be a new protagonist, leaving the above unfinished thus ruined. I don't want Ryder and MEA to suffer the same fate, so that's why while I used to want DLC now I'm glad it didn't. The reveal of Solas as not only being the one that allowed Corypheus to get the orb, but also the Dread Wolf himself, means that Inquisition’s story was in fact not completed. He was the real culprit, and the base game never resolved this. Neither does Trespasser. In fact it makes it worse since the base game had nobody but the player aware of those things thus the characters and their stories are still resolved. Trespasser starts them on a new one since they now know, but then ditches them leaving them unraveled for nothing.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Sept 13, 2020 17:10:42 GMT
I'm glad MEA didn't get any DLC. It would have just taken a good story and character, ripped them apart to tease something, and then throw them away like trash. Just like Trespasser. I think this distress over Trespasser has made you a bit unreasonable. There’s no reason to believe that what Trespasser’s story entailed means that BioWare would follow that exact story path at all for Ryder & Co.. By this logic, you would hope that BioWare never make DLC for any of their games again for the same reason. Until they actually have them keep the story complete again, that’s exactly what I’m hoping. And sure there is reason to believe. We just have to look at the last DLC they made.
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Post by KaiserShep on Sept 13, 2020 17:11:31 GMT
The reveal of Solas as not only being the one that allowed Corypheus to get the orb, but also the Dread Wolf himself, means that Inquisition’s story was in fact not completed. He was the real culprit, and the base game never resolved this. Neither does Trespasser. In fact it makes it worse since the base game had nobody but the player aware of those things thus the characters and their stories are still resolved. Trespasser starts them on a new one since they now know, but then ditches them leaving them unraveled for nothing. This is all pretty premature. Even with a new protagonist, we don’t know what else the game’s story holds for these characters. I guess mileages vary, as I actually really liked Trespasser. My only regret was not being allowed to have Sera shoot the Arl of Redcliffe in the foot.
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Post by Polka Dot on Sept 13, 2020 17:12:14 GMT
^Sorry - too vague to be at all helpful. Apparently, you've learned something that dashes your desires/expectations in some way. Dragon Age: Inquisition ends with a completed story. Trespasser comes out, unraveling that for the game and protagonist. DA4 shows that it will be a new protagonist, leaving the above unfinished thus ruined. I don't want Ryder and MEA to suffer the same fate, so that's why while I used to want DLC now I'm glad it didn't. Okay, thanks for explaining. DA has always had a new protag for each new game, and the devs have always indicated that's the ongoing plan. No such promises were made wrt MEA, but ME does have a tradition of using the same PC across titles. Where the creators have left you disappointed and frustrated, you can always create your own headcanon to bring things to a conclusion that pleases you.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Sept 13, 2020 17:17:42 GMT
Dragon Age: Inquisition ends with a completed story. Trespasser comes out, unraveling that for the game and protagonist. DA4 shows that it will be a new protagonist, leaving the above unfinished thus ruined. I don't want Ryder and MEA to suffer the same fate, so that's why while I used to want DLC now I'm glad it didn't. Okay, thanks for explaining. DA has always had a new protag for each new game, and the devs have always indicated that's the ongoing plan. No such promises were made wrt MEA, but ME does have a tradition of using the same PC across titles. Where the creators have left you disappointed and frustrated, you can always create your own headcanon to bring things to a conclusion that pleases you. You're welcome. DA always had a completed story and character arc too, until Trespasser destroyed that. The fact that they destroy past games and ruin potential for new ones just to follow some idiotic rule they set for themselves makes me think the haters have a point. As mentioned last page, supposedly someone with insider ties has them thinking the next game will be in Andromeda but not with Ryder but long after them. But regardless, that's why I'm now glad that MEA didn't get DLC setting up another story since at least now they have a completed story and not ruined like the Inquisitor was. Headcanon's worthless.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Sept 13, 2020 17:19:09 GMT
Neither does Trespasser. In fact it makes it worse since the base game had nobody but the player aware of those things thus the characters and their stories are still resolved. Trespasser starts them on a new one since they now know, but then ditches them leaving them unraveled for nothing. This is all pretty premature. Even with a new protagonist, we don’t know what else the game’s story holds for these characters. I guess mileages vary, as I actually really liked Trespasser. My only regret was not being allowed to have Sera shoot the Arl of Redcliffe in the foot. Oh, like being a NPC? Yeah, that's worse since they have yet to bring back a past protagonist as a NPC that isn't a complete bastardization of them. I would have liked Trespasser if it didn't piss on my favorite game and protagonist as it ended up doing.
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Post by Polka Dot on Sept 13, 2020 17:32:51 GMT
Okay, thanks for explaining. DA has always had a new protag for each new game, and the devs have always indicated that's the ongoing plan. No such promises were made wrt MEA, but ME does have a tradition of using the same PC across titles. Where the creators have left you disappointed and frustrated, you can always create your own headcanon to bring things to a conclusion that pleases you. You're welcome. DA always had a completed story and character arc too, until Trespasser destroyed that. The fact that they destroy past games and ruin potential for new ones just to follow some idiotic rule they set for themselves makes me think the haters have a point. As mentioned last page, supposedly someone with insider ties has them thinking the next game will be in Andromeda but not with Ryder but long after them. But regardless, that's why I'm now glad that MEA didn't get DLC setting up another story since at least now they have a completed story and not ruined like the Inquisitor was. Headcanon's worthless. Oh, I think DA has always left some threads dangling. Like whatever happened to/about the awakened darkspawn from DAA? My position is that MEA really isn't complete until the Keelah Si'yah is found. Headcanon (or at least, personal interpretation) is ultimately all there ever is. There isn't very much fiction that so completely fills in every possible detail unambiguously that a reasonable person could not possibly interpret it in any other way. RPGs usually leave some space for players to co-create the narrative. And in a world filled with magic, anything can happen...
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Post by KaiserShep on Sept 13, 2020 17:34:16 GMT
This is all pretty premature. Even with a new protagonist, we don’t know what else the game’s story holds for these characters. I guess mileages vary, as I actually really liked Trespasser. My only regret was not being allowed to have Sera shoot the Arl of Redcliffe in the foot. Oh, like being a NPC? Yeah, that's worse since they have yet to bring back a past protagonist as a NPC that isn't a complete bastardization of them. I would have liked Trespasser if it didn't piss on my favorite game and protagonist as it ended up doing. Or we just deal through an agent. We don’t know enough to go on to really get upset about as far as the story is concerned. I’m only concerned with what the “live service” aspect is all about for the moment. Once it’s confirmed that multiplayer isn’t going to be any kind of detriment, then I can worry about other things like whatever they do to past protagonists. At least Hawke gets an opportunity to go back to Kirkwall. All it took was tossing a Warden to spiders.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Sept 13, 2020 17:51:21 GMT
You're welcome. DA always had a completed story and character arc too, until Trespasser destroyed that. The fact that they destroy past games and ruin potential for new ones just to follow some idiotic rule they set for themselves makes me think the haters have a point. As mentioned last page, supposedly someone with insider ties has them thinking the next game will be in Andromeda but not with Ryder but long after them. But regardless, that's why I'm now glad that MEA didn't get DLC setting up another story since at least now they have a completed story and not ruined like the Inquisitor was. Headcanon's worthless. Oh, I think DA has always left some threads dangling. Like whatever happened to/about the awakened darkspawn from DAA? My position is that MEA really isn't complete until the Keelah Si'yah is found. Headcanon (or at least, personal interpretation) is ultimately all there ever is. There isn't very much fiction that so completely fills in every possible detail unambiguously that a reasonable person could not possibly interpret it in any other way. RPGs usually leave some space for players to co-create the narrative. And in a world filled with magic, anything can happen... The Warden's involvement in that was concluded, either hoping the Architect finds a way to deliver his promise or by wiping them all out. It doesn't end with the Warden saying we are going to stop them then cut to DA2. I disagree with that. The main goal of MEA was to find humanity a home, and they did that. I meant more headcanon in terms of ones that conflict with canon. Sure I cam imagine playing the Inquisitor and stopping Solas, but once Rando shows up to do it instead my headcanon means nothing. Other types of headcanon are more valid, especially when the writer supports it (for example the writers of Merrill and Josephine saying seeing them as Demisexual or ASexual/DEmisexual respectively are valid interpretations of the characters).
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Sept 13, 2020 17:53:51 GMT
Oh, like being a NPC? Yeah, that's worse since they have yet to bring back a past protagonist as a NPC that isn't a complete bastardization of them. I would have liked Trespasser if it didn't piss on my favorite game and protagonist as it ended up doing. Or we just deal through an agent. We don’t know enough to go on to really get upset about as far as the story is concerned. I’m only concerned with what the “live service” aspect is all about for the moment. Once it’s confirmed that multiplayer isn’t going to be any kind of detriment, then I can worry about other things like whatever they do to past protagonists. At least Hawke gets an opportunity to go back to Kirkwall. All it took was tossing a Warden to spiders. Dealing through an agent is also terrible. Why even give the options they did at the end then if it won't even matter? My Hawke would never go back to Kirkwall. Well maybe to pick up Merrill (who they'd never leave in the first place but apparently now not only does but thinks she's a monster because blood magic) but then immediately leave again.
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Post by General Mahad on Sept 13, 2020 18:10:46 GMT
Needing to be online in order to play single player is an automatic deal breaker for me. They could do what Hitman and MGS5 did and have extra unlockables like weapons and gadgets hidden behind online access. After completing challenges or grinding for them; they stay in your possession even in offline mode. It gave you a reason to be online but didn’t lock you out of the core experience. I wouldn't say deal breaker just hiiighhhhly annoying. My internet is trash and prone to random packet loss.
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Post by colfoley on Sept 13, 2020 19:10:12 GMT
I wouldn't say deal breaker just hiiighhhhly annoying. My internet is trash and prone to random packet loss. don't get me wrong I would prefer them not doing that because the cons still outweigh the potential pros, however just pointing out that based on my experiences with Anthem and Breakpoint it's not entirely an unmanageable problem.
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Post by Norstaera on Sept 13, 2020 21:24:05 GMT
My hopes(?) re live service: - Single player campaign that I can play offline w/o penalty
- dlc that adds to story: Shale, Warden's Keep, MotA, Legacy, Trespasser, Jaws of H, Descent - that sort of thing
- cosmetics/armor - I like the armor you can get outside the main game. i don't mind having extra armor available through separate purchase, etc.
- multiplayer campaign that is completely separate from main single player campaign. And does not affect outcome of single player campaign.
- i like the Keep. And I liked how the Warden's story and appearance could be uploaded online in the old forums.
Don't want: - Requiring live service to achieve satisfactory conclusion to single player game
- Having to be online just to play. I want to download/install game and be able to play w/o issue.
- Register once and forget it is fine. Not registering/verifying every single time I play.
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Post by colfoley on Sept 13, 2020 21:25:21 GMT
My hopes(?) re live service: - Single player campaign that I can play offline w/o penalty
- dlc that adds to story: Shale, Warden's Keep, MotA, Legacy, Trespasser, Jaws of H, Descent - that sort of thing
- cosmetics/armor - I like the armor you can get outside the main game. i don't mind having extra armor available through separate purchase, etc.
- multiplayer campaign that is completely separate from main single player campaign. And does not affect outcome of single player campaign.
- i like the Keep. And I liked how the Warden's story and appearance could be uploaded online in the old forums.
Don't want: - Requiring live service to achieve satisfactory conclusion to single player game
- Having to be online just to play. I want to download/install game and be able to play w/o issue.
- Register once and forget it is fine. Not registering/verifying every single time I play.
does anyone still do the last one?
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