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Post by Cyberstrike on Oct 24, 2020 21:03:35 GMT
Then maybe Bio should not play favourites or just fix this problem. Like hell I'm going to shell out £60 just to relive that same shit again. Pretty sure regardless of who BioWare put into the role of exposition dump regurgitator they would have been accused of playing favorites.
If I had to listen to Tali go on and on and on like she did about her people and the geth in ME1 I would want someone to put me out of my misery.
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Post by MegaIllusiveMan on Oct 24, 2020 21:05:31 GMT
Liara and ME1 aside, it still surprises me that Bioware would be wiling to stick their hand in the ME3 buzzsaw again. Please do. Despite many fans liking the endings and considering ME3 the best entry of the series, Bioware can still learn from some mistakes made along the way and look back on the whole situation with another eyes. And that's me being truly optimistic. Andromeda was, in some way or the other, a step to a different direction, and that's mostly (not gonna say all of it, since who knows, maybe Bioware did intend to move to Andromeda regardless) because of the endgame situation. It's time to move on from the whole debate. But to do so, it's to accept it and say "hey, we screwed up, but we won't deny the remasterization pledges just because people will be onto us again." Kinda off-topic, but I'm a bit eager to see the upcoming Bioware 25 years book.
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Post by MegaIllusiveMan on Oct 24, 2020 21:13:18 GMT
Mostly, not entirely. Just like TLJ is a bad movie, but it only really shits the bed, once it kills Luke Skywalker. But even keeping Luke alive, would not have made it a good movie. It's still the worst movie in the franchise. True. The possibility of a continuation or an open ending would alleviate a lot of the complaints. There's always next time and that would allow for a "next time", unlike the ending we got. Not quite. I don't agree that it's dumb. I'd argue its masterfully executed, from exposition, to dialogue, to cinematography, the character vignettes, the missions, everything. ME2 makes sure that every concession you made going from ME1 to ME2 was worth the sacrifice. It is an absolute marvel. Individually. ME would be much smaller a franchise, had ME2 not existed, the way it did. ME3 is where it turns really dumb. Butchering characters, dumb dialogue, plot contrivances and character benchings. ME3 starts terribly (we fight or we die), plateaus with Mars, peaks at Tuchanka, dives off a cliff with Rannoch, no pun intended Talimancers, has some individual brights spots, are largely pertaining to ME2 crew members, but never recovers and on top of that, it then Amber Turds the endings. There is maybe 2 worthwhile concessions in the entire game and everything else is "why couldn't we get more of this" which is usually ME2 crew stuff, "instead of this" which is entirely lackluster Cerberus plots that contribute nothing to the story, but Bioware needed them to pad their game and distract from the fact that the Reapers are extras in their own game. So no, I don't agree how you equate ME2 and ME3, in terms of content. I’d argue that TLJ started shitting the bed a lot earlier than that. If your first battle, involving a faction getting slowly crushed under the heel of a maniacal hegemony is kicked off with a crank call and yo mama joke, it’s clear things are already on the fast track to disaster. ME2’s presented very well, obviously from the acclaim it gets, but that doesn’t really change the overall nonsensical plot points, the occasional cheap shock drama that’s immediately deflated, like Shepard’s “death”, and the sort. It muscles through all that with snappy dialogue, fun characters and satisfying arcs to various storylines. It’s no smarter in its internal logic than the other games, but it covers all that stuff up with a lot of fun traipsing through the armpits of the galaxy that ends on a high note. To be honest, TLJ or Mass Effect argument, we all agree that what was lacking on those two was planning all the way to the end. You could argue that the second movie/game of the trilogy was a waste or not, that depends on your opinion, ofc, but in the end, it's all about opinion. People somehow think that "10/10", "Legendary Rating", "1/10", "Bad Game" are universal things and tend to base their opinion and speech around that: "hey, people say it's good, so you must like it". In the end, we all want a remaster. And we all gonna play the hell of it when/if it comes out
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Post by Son of Dorn on Oct 24, 2020 21:17:04 GMT
I’d argue that TLJ started shitting the bed a lot earlier than that. If your first battle, involving a faction getting slowly crushed under the heel of a maniacal hegemony is kicked off with a crank call and yo mama joke, it’s clear things are already on the fast track to disaster. ME2’s presented very well, obviously from the acclaim it gets, but that doesn’t really change the overall nonsensical plot points, the occasional cheap shock drama that’s immediately deflated, like Shepard’s “death”, and the sort. It muscles through all that with snappy dialogue, fun characters and satisfying arcs to various storylines. It’s no smarter in its internal logic than the other games, but it covers all that stuff up with a lot of fun traipsing through the armpits of the galaxy that ends on a high note. To be honest, TLJ or Mass Effect argument, we all agree that what was lacking on those two was planning all the way to the end. You could argue that the second movie/game of the trilogy was a waste or not, that depends on your opinion, ofc, but in the end, it's all about opinion. People somehow think that "10/10", "Legendary Rating", "1/10", "Bad Game" are universal things and tend to base their opinion and speech around that: "hey, people say it's good, so you must like it". In the end, we all want a remaster. And we all gonna play the hell of it when/if it comes out I know that I would love a remaster of Fallout 1 and 2 (because I never got to play those games). Or would that be classed as a remake?
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Post by Cyberstrike on Oct 24, 2020 21:17:29 GMT
Liara and ME1 aside, it still surprises me that Bioware would be wiling to stick their hand in the ME3 buzzsaw again. Please do. Despite many fans liking the endings and considering ME3 the best entry of the series, Bioware can still learn from some mistakes made along the way and look back on the whole situation with another eyes. And that's me being truly optimistic. Andromeda was, in some way or the other, a step to a different direction, and that's mostly (not gonna say all of it, since who knows, maybe Bioware did intend to move to Andromeda regardless) because of the endgame situation. It's time to move on from the whole debate. But to do so, it's to accept it and say "hey, we screwed up, but we won't deny the remasterization pledges just because people will be onto us again." Kinda off-topic, but I'm a bit eager to see the upcoming Bioware 25 years book.
Honestly the whole deal with the remasters is to get some of the so-called "fans" to love them again.
That. Is. It.
It's a cheap, simple, stupid, and IMHO an insulting fanservice move to try and win back the same people who hated DAI, MEA, and Anthem with the least amount of work, and what's really sad is that it will probably work, because no one ever went broke not thinking that fans are still basically stupid (and I count myself as a fan and make of that what you will). At least until the remasters come out and then we have to deal with all of the people who are still butt hurt about this, that, and the other thing and/or changes that were made to "fix" story and gameplay elements, and then we get to do this whole song and dance all over again.
Oh joy. /sarcasm]
Then people wonder why I'm not as looking forward to the remasters theoretically as much as I should be?
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Post by Sanunes on Oct 24, 2020 21:32:37 GMT
Please do. Despite many fans liking the endings and considering ME3 the best entry of the series, Bioware can still learn from some mistakes made along the way and look back on the whole situation with another eyes. And that's me being truly optimistic. Andromeda was, in some way or the other, a step to a different direction, and that's mostly (not gonna say all of it, since who knows, maybe Bioware did intend to move to Andromeda regardless) because of the endgame situation. It's time to move on from the whole debate. But to do so, it's to accept it and say "hey, we screwed up, but we won't deny the remasterization pledges just because people will be onto us again." Kinda off-topic, but I'm a bit eager to see the upcoming Bioware 25 years book.
Honestly the whole deal with the remasters is to get fans to love them again.
That is it.
It's cheap, simple, stupid, and IMHO an insulting fanservice move to try and "win back" people who hated DAI, MEA, and Anthem with the least amount of work, and what's really sad is that it will probably work, because no one ever went broke not thinking that fans are stupid.
At least until the remasters and then we have to deal with all of the people who are still butt hurt about this, that, and the other thing and we get to do this whole song and dance all over again.
Oh joy. /sarcasm]
Then people wonder why I'm not as looking forward to the remasters as theoretically I should be?
Exactly the reasons why I don't understand why EA would do it. Especially now with the reporting of how they are updating Mass Effect 1 to be more like the other two. So its setting expectations that things can be changed. I guess its why I am still skeptical even with all the recent reports of the game being rated in Korea and how Jeff Grubb keeps claiming its coming, I just don't see what EA really gets out of this especially since with what Casey Hudson has said on Twitter and in a blog posting Mass Effect is still going forward.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Oct 24, 2020 21:47:53 GMT
Honestly the whole deal with the remasters is to get fans to love them again.
That is it.
It's cheap, simple, stupid, and IMHO an insulting fanservice move to try and "win back" people who hated DAI, MEA, and Anthem with the least amount of work, and what's really sad is that it will probably work, because no one ever went broke not thinking that fans are stupid.
At least until the remasters and then we have to deal with all of the people who are still butt hurt about this, that, and the other thing and we get to do this whole song and dance all over again.
Oh joy. /sarcasm]
Then people wonder why I'm not as looking forward to the remasters as theoretically I should be?
Exactly the reasons why I don't understand why EA would do it. Especially now with the reporting of how they are updating Mass Effect 1 to be more like the other two. So its setting expectations that things can be changed. I guess its why I am still skeptical even with all the recent reports of the game being rated in Korea and how Jeff Grubb keeps claiming its coming, I just don't see what EA really gets out of this especially since with what Casey Hudson has said on Twitter and in a blog posting Mass Effect is still going forward. Meh. To be honest I don't really if this remaster turns out to be real, 12 trilogy playthoughs is more than enough.
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Post by alanc9 on Oct 24, 2020 21:48:35 GMT
Well, they kind of have to update ME1. Even if Original Recipe ME1 wouldn't turn off a lot of new gamers, what's the reason to buy the remaster if you own the originals? On PC, nothing I can think of.
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Post by Cyberstrike on Oct 24, 2020 21:57:43 GMT
Honestly the whole deal with the remasters is to get fans to love them again.
That is it.
It's cheap, simple, stupid, and IMHO an insulting fanservice move to try and "win back" people who hated DAI, MEA, and Anthem with the least amount of work, and what's really sad is that it will probably work, because no one ever went broke not thinking that fans are stupid.
At least until the remasters and then we have to deal with all of the people who are still butt hurt about this, that, and the other thing and we get to do this whole song and dance all over again.
Oh joy. /sarcasm]
Then people wonder why I'm not as looking forward to the remasters as theoretically I should be?
Exactly the reasons why I don't understand why EA would do it. Especially now with the reporting of how they are updating Mass Effect 1 to be more like the other two. So its setting expectations that things can be changed. I guess its why I am still skeptical even with all the recent reports of the game being rated in Korea and how Jeff Grubb keeps claiming its coming, I just don't see what EA really gets out of this especially since with what Casey Hudson has said on Twitter and in a blog posting Mass Effect is still going forward.
My guess is that they think it's "good" PR and they know it will get them some good will with fans and it's probably cheaper in some cases than say doing MEA2. In wrestling terminology a remaster of the MET is a cheap pop something they know will get EA and BioWare a lot of good press and fans will buy it again to play it again for their new PCs, PS5, and XBX. Again EA and BioWare don't lose much because they can sub-contract it out to another company (and there are studios that specialize in remastering old and new games) and gain and/or regain fan support with doing the least amount of work that they can do and get a lot of money.
If this gets me MEA2 then I'll put up with all of the tied decade plus old bull shit arguments about the quality of the story to ME2 the controversial endings, and of course the obvious remaster v. original debates that will be coming and if not then I guess I'll go talk about Dragon Age, Assassin's Creed, Tomb Raider, Resident Evil, or other sci-fi shows and movies that have moved forward like The Transformers, Star Trek, and Star Wars and put Mass Effect behind me as something I USED to be into until it stopped moving forward and died.
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Post by Cyberstrike on Oct 24, 2020 22:03:03 GMT
Well, they kind of have to update ME1. Even if Original Recipe ME1 wouldn't turn off a lot of new gamers, what's the reason to buy the remaster if you own the originals? On PC, nothing I can think of.
Hell even on the XB1 it doesn't have most of the graphical problems (other than Pinnacle Station that piece of shit DLC still had all of the graphic pop, framerate drops, graphical load times, and it still played and looked awful) that it did on the 360 and PS3.
The gameplay of ME1 has aged very poorly and when compared against ME2, ME3, and MEA it's slow, sluggish, not fun, and was already ancient even when ME2 was brand new.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Oct 24, 2020 23:02:26 GMT
My guess is that they think it's "good" PR and they know it will get them some good will with fans and it's probably cheaper in some cases than say doing MEA2Unfortunately, this would be a test. To gander at the fanbase left and how willing it would be to follow the franchise forward and what kind of investment EA could be looking to make with it, the RoI, etc. Because EA wants investors to bankroll the development costs for their titles and make profits for their investors. But they don't want to overblow the RoI and end up with an Andromeda situation.
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Post by ClarkKent on Oct 24, 2020 23:50:08 GMT
The over-use of auto dialogue was actually the most disappointing thing about ME3. I'd have taken the shitty ending and the Geth wanting to be human, but the forced watering down of the dialogue system on top of that was beyond the pale. I remember doing a trilogy replay a few years back and thinking ME2 had the best dialogue options and use while also thinking ME3 was almost jarringly bad with Shepard waffling on for minutes on end without my input.
And somehow MEA made the dialogue wheel even worse - which was great.
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Post by ahglock on Oct 25, 2020 0:15:01 GMT
I've never liked this weird argument that Mass Effect 2 ruined the series. The story might have been altered to include some more generic space Cthullu, but there's no guarantee that the resulting game would get a 96 on Metacritic, introduce a bunch of characters that people will remember forever, and bring the series enough following and interest that people are willing to shout about the shitty endings of said series ten years after the fact. It brings me back to the classic phrase 'if my aunty had wheels she would be a bike'. It just seems bizarre that one of the highest rated games of all time could be a 'mistake'. Really Mass Effect 1 was most at fault for introducing the impossible to defeat angsty villain in the first place, when the setting was going great without it. I love mass effect 2 but it was a massive stylistic shift from ME1 I think the story was overall fine but you had to pretty heavily read between the lines to get it to work with the overall story. Maybe a book or comics flesh that out, but it is something that should be handled within the game. Still it has awesome characters and dialogue, cool scenes, fun gameplay etc.
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Post by Iakus on Oct 25, 2020 4:25:20 GMT
I've never liked this weird argument that Mass Effect 2 ruined the series. The story might have been altered to include some more generic space Cthullu, but there's no guarantee that the resulting game would get a 96 on Metacritic, introduce a bunch of characters that people will remember forever, and bring the series enough following and interest that people are willing to shout about the shitty endings of said series ten years after the fact. It brings me back to the classic phrase 'if my aunty had wheels she would be a bike'. It just seems bizarre that one of the highest rated games of all time could be a 'mistake'. Really Mass Effect 1 was most at fault for introducing the impossible to defeat angsty villain in the first place, when the setting was going great without it. It didn't ruin the series. That was ME3. But ME2 did fail to advance the story in any meaningful way. Shepard spent the whole thing farting around shooting random mercs while Space Cthulhu was plotting the destruction of galactic civilization.
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Post by Iakus on Oct 25, 2020 4:30:19 GMT
To be honest, TLJ or Mass Effect argument, we all agree that what was lacking on those two was planning all the way to the end. You could argue that the second movie/game of the trilogy was a waste or not, that depends on your opinion, ofc, but in the end, it's all about opinion. People somehow think that "10/10", "Legendary Rating", "1/10", "Bad Game" are universal things and tend to base their opinion and speech around that: "hey, people say it's good, so you must like it". In the end, we all want a remaster. And we all gonna play the hell of it when/if it comes out I know that I would love a remaster of Fallout 1 and 2 (because I never got to play those games). Or would that be classed as a remake? I never played the original Fallout either, but Fallout 2 is awesome! Despite wonky combat. Better than any Fallout game Bethesda has put out. I'd still be playing it if it ran well on my computer.
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Post by ahglock on Oct 25, 2020 6:19:14 GMT
I've never liked this weird argument that Mass Effect 2 ruined the series. The story might have been altered to include some more generic space Cthullu, but there's no guarantee that the resulting game would get a 96 on Metacritic, introduce a bunch of characters that people will remember forever, and bring the series enough following and interest that people are willing to shout about the shitty endings of said series ten years after the fact. It brings me back to the classic phrase 'if my aunty had wheels she would be a bike'. It just seems bizarre that one of the highest rated games of all time could be a 'mistake'. Really Mass Effect 1 was most at fault for introducing the impossible to defeat angsty villain in the first place, when the setting was going great without it. It didn't ruin the series. That was ME3. But ME2 did fail to advance the story in any meaningful way. Shepard spent the whole thing farting around shooting random mercs while Space Cthulhu was plotting the destruction of galactic civilization. What's dumb to me about it is the entire story basically could work to advance the plot if they just tied in going after the collector base as not just saving the colonists which would actually be a secondary goal but gathering info on the reapers as they had a connection to the reapers. Basically the story points could go. 1. Collectors are attacking you suspect reaper involvement. 2. You want to stop the collectors sure but first you want to confirm the connection to the reapers. 3. After confirming connection you make a plan to invade their space to gather info and if you can also stop them from stealing colonists. 4. suicide mission.
Its basically the same exact game but its actually tied into the story more directly. As is its a bit of a stretch, you are basically going after the collectors to stop them because they have a connection to the reapers but no real step two or plan past that. There is no exposition to basically say, stopping the collectors helps us against the reapers because X. You don;t need much of an excuse, you just need an excuse. Sure when you get to the end you kill the replacement reaper, before it can be finished. But that's like a random occurrence, its not part of your plan.
Edit to add I think some of that was implied, or mentioned off hand like but what you emphasize makes a difference.
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Post by themikefest on Oct 25, 2020 10:46:25 GMT
I would have made the collectors a very long side mission with the goal of ME2 traveling to darkspace to gather any information that would help with stopping the reapers. Shepard wouldn't fight 3-eyes. I would change a few things in ME1 that would make it possible to travel to darkspace in ME2. Another way is to have ME2 be the beginning of the trilogy with ME1 becoming ME2.
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Post by ahglock on Oct 25, 2020 14:52:57 GMT
Sure, that would work as well. The collectors being the information source just reduces the work load. If its the collectors heck just make gather info the plan from the get go, your end decision isn't blow the place up or just kill the collectors, its kill the collectors for sure but hand the keys over to Cerberus or the Alliance.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Oct 25, 2020 19:55:43 GMT
I know that I would love a remaster of Fallout 1 and 2 (because I never got to play those games). Or would that be classed as a remake? I never played the original Fallout either, but Fallout 2 is awesome! Despite wonky combat. Better than any Fallout game Bethesda has put out. I'd still be playing it if it ran well on my computer. I've been watching that guy on YouTube who does the Fallout lore vids and I wish I could play it, those games look very interesting to play.
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Post by Iakus on Oct 25, 2020 20:49:14 GMT
I never played the original Fallout either, but Fallout 2 is awesome! Despite wonky combat. Better than any Fallout game Bethesda has put out. I'd still be playing it if it ran well on my computer. I've been watching that guy on YouTube who does the Fallout lore vids and I wish I could play it, those games look very interesting to play. Too many devs today think lore is optional/
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Post by Son of Dorn on Oct 25, 2020 21:09:52 GMT
I've been watching that guy on YouTube who does the Fallout lore vids and I wish I could play it, those games look very interesting to play. Too many devs today think lore is optional/ Sadly, that's very true.
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Post by Sanunes on Oct 25, 2020 22:17:04 GMT
I know that I would love a remaster of Fallout 1 and 2 (because I never got to play those games). Or would that be classed as a remake? I never played the original Fallout either, but Fallout 2 is awesome! Despite wonky combat. Better than any Fallout game Bethesda has put out. I'd still be playing it if it ran well on my computer. Have you tried the GoG versions of Fallout 1 & 2? I was having a lot of problems running them on my PC as well until I purchased the original pack (1, 2, & Tactics) which fixed the issues I was having. My guess is my problems were related to how much Windows has changed over the years. I was also told that you could use DOS Box if you just want to use the original disks, but never tried it myself.
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Post by MegaIllusiveMan on Oct 26, 2020 11:43:31 GMT
Please do. Despite many fans liking the endings and considering ME3 the best entry of the series, Bioware can still learn from some mistakes made along the way and look back on the whole situation with another eyes. And that's me being truly optimistic. Andromeda was, in some way or the other, a step to a different direction, and that's mostly (not gonna say all of it, since who knows, maybe Bioware did intend to move to Andromeda regardless) because of the endgame situation. It's time to move on from the whole debate. But to do so, it's to accept it and say "hey, we screwed up, but we won't deny the remasterization pledges just because people will be onto us again." Kinda off-topic, but I'm a bit eager to see the upcoming Bioware 25 years book.
Honestly the whole deal with the remasters is to get some of the so-called "fans" to love them again.
That. Is. It.
It's a cheap, simple, stupid, and IMHO an insulting fanservice move to try and win back the same people who hated DAI, MEA, and Anthem with the least amount of work, and what's really sad is that it will probably work, because no one ever went broke not thinking that fans are still basically stupid (and I count myself as a fan and make of that what you will). At least until the remasters come out and then we have to deal with all of the people who are still butt hurt about this, that, and the other thing and/or changes that were made to "fix" story and gameplay elements, and then we get to do this whole song and dance all over again.
Oh joy. /sarcasm]
Then people wonder why I'm not as looking forward to the remasters theoretically as much as I should be?
Exactly. Oh, I'm not that excited for a remaster (despite some arguments here), because I have a PC and mods are running as strong as ever. Including maaany stories and interactions Bioware would never do because it would be a complete overhaul for the game instead of a simple remaster. But, hey, people would call me PC Master Racer, so I just say that, considering console people "hey, not everyone has PC, you should stop thinking about yourself". But TBH, if Bioware is intending to win us back with a Remaster and truly compensate the next releases, they have my attention. Plus, if ME1 gets updated with the gameplay, it sure would attract many new people for the fandom, because come on, many people do drop the intention of playing the trilogy after seeing the whole wonky controls and the Mako. Oh dear, the Mako.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Oct 26, 2020 12:52:17 GMT
But, hey, people would call me PC Master Racer, so I just say that, considering console people "hey, not everyone has PC, you should stop thinking about yourself". It's not just the PC. As we've said and UutIVvdPw7END0Ef proved, the XSEX does a great job of remastering the originals just fine, by itself. It's not even going to entice old fans to "forgive and forget". Like, what is the hook? " Remember that game that entirely ruined our customer relationship? Well, here it is again!" I mean, I have some reservations how helpful that will be in restoring Bioware's relationship with the fanbase. And even assuming it does, for some bizzare reason, for some. We're right back in 2012. Just a decade later. We've spent, so far, 8 years to not move past ME3. I don't know what else to say.
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Post by Sanunes on Oct 26, 2020 16:48:42 GMT
Honestly the whole deal with the remasters is to get some of the so-called "fans" to love them again.
That. Is. It.
It's a cheap, simple, stupid, and IMHO an insulting fanservice move to try and win back the same people who hated DAI, MEA, and Anthem with the least amount of work, and what's really sad is that it will probably work, because no one ever went broke not thinking that fans are still basically stupid (and I count myself as a fan and make of that what you will). At least until the remasters come out and then we have to deal with all of the people who are still butt hurt about this, that, and the other thing and/or changes that were made to "fix" story and gameplay elements, and then we get to do this whole song and dance all over again.
Oh joy. /sarcasm]
Then people wonder why I'm not as looking forward to the remasters theoretically as much as I should be?
Exactly. Oh, I'm not that excited for a remaster (despite some arguments here), because I have a PC and mods are running as strong as ever. Including maaany stories and interactions Bioware would never do because it would be a complete overhaul for the game instead of a simple remaster. But, hey, people would call me PC Master Racer, so I just say that, considering console people "hey, not everyone has PC, you should stop thinking about yourself". But TBH, if Bioware is intending to win us back with a Remaster and truly compensate the next releases, they have my attention. Plus, if ME1 gets updated with the gameplay, it sure would attract many new people for the fandom, because come on, many people do drop the intention of playing the trilogy after seeing the whole wonky controls and the Mako. Oh dear, the Mako. I had a much easier time with the PC Mako controls then the console ones for you could drive and fire in two different separate directions. There were just a few planets that were the problem for me, not the Mako itself.
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