Rumours of Mass Effect Trilogy Trilogy Remaster: What would you like to see?

well the yhaven' texactl yconfirmed the yaer doing it have they you'd think with al  the potential leaks someone a teither EA or Biowaer would have likely said something! TBH that's the main reason wh yI don't think it's happening not because I don' t want it.

Besides I'm now a tthe point wher I'm onl ygoing t obelieve something when it comes straight out of the horses mouth so to speak.

That's the thing, we aren't the target audience. 50 loons obsessed enough with a game to stay on forums years after its gone are the exact opposite of the target audience.

The thing is we are a lot more then 50 loons.  There are a lot of people that come here and just watch the chaos that happens around here the stats for the last 24 hours here is "7 Staff, 209 Members, 2,565 Guests".  When you have people that are still talking about the original games and not really understanding the idea or not getting hyped for product it can be a negative factor on the release.  Even look at the remake of Resident Evil 3 for it didn't have the hype around it like its predecessor and still did okay, but the numbers at least for Steam tell two different stories especially with how close they were in release windows.

I am not so sure the target audience is strictly us die-hard fans who are regulars on a fan forum years and years later. I think the target audience is people who may have played the trilogy back then, enjoyed it and then moved on as well as people who may not have played it yet at all (those who were 12 years old back then and are in their early 20s now for example).

For those people, the chance to play the MET (again) with some improvements might be very appealing, I think.

They absolutey can ignore any one audience. Bioware's been doing that since Baulder's Gate 2. Every title has alienated more and more small pockets of players over the years. Baulder's Gate fans hate KOTOR, KOTOR fans hate ME etc. there are various groups who get ignored and shunted to the side. This is nothing new. 

Agreed.


But they're not changing it. I mean, the only "change" is to, allegedly, include the DLC. I ... I don't see this as a "different" experience. PC mods change a lot more than what EA would hope to achieve with this. And I don't know what they could add to make it different. What is there to add, that doesn't create problems to the base games? In which case, if we changed the games, it would be more like a remake, than a remaster. Which we have been explicitly told, time and again, we aren't getting.


It was close to the original's launch. It was also early in the PS4's life cycle and it was a very acclaimed title, to begin with. So is MET, in a sense. Both a good and a bad one.


Yeah. If I recall, the MP was a runaway hit with that one and it was included in the remaster, was it not?


You can still buy the games online. I get it, if you want a physical copy, but even so, you can still get some from online retailers. I can see it, if that were the case. But honestly, how many people like that are there? Not many, I would gander.


It's not going to be anything that changes the story. I doubt it will be anything remotely better than some QoL changes, at best. Seems more like the Enhanced Editions of the Infinity Engine games, in that regard. Which might make replaying the games a little "easier", but I don't see it being groundbreaking.


You are assuming that some zoomer would rather play a retro game, at this point, being two console generations removed, remastered, rather than the new games that are coming out now. TLoU remaster was an early PS4 title that looked quite similar to other early games of the PS4 era. MET will not look close to that. Coming out of the very visually impressive TLoU2 and Ghosts of Tsushima, with even better looking titles looming, like AssCreed: Valhalla for example, do you really think they are going to check out this old looking game, that's a "prequel" to Andromeda? Maybe with $10 price tag, 2-3 months down the line. If they remember it. Or if it's free with Game Pass on XSEX.


Provided you get to make new fans, faster than you are losing them. Which doesn't seem to be the case anymore. I mean, Bioware games sell fantastic nowadays, at the $4.99 price point. EA is losing money for every copy sold, at that price point, but hey, sales, customer base, sure. No revenue, though. Montreal closed down, Mass Effect was put on ice and it's not like the "A-Team" of Edmonton has been doing a much better job, either. And I will include everything Edmonton has produced since ME3, including Bioware's "best selling game ever", Dragon Age: Inquisition, soon to be surpassed by Anthem. I can't stress enough, these games have not been successes.

And just an FYI, I've been a fan since BG1. It took DA2 and ME3 to put me off from Bioware. Even as NWN and JE didn't thrill me, I wasn't disappointed in Bioware. Even as EA and Bioware consider both those games successes, they both were commercially and critically, they turned off a large segment of the gaming public, with result being largely negative audience engagement with new Bioware titles and even as Bioware left the previous RPG genre behind entirely with Anthem, the turn up was just over half of what they expected to see. Their games are underperforming in the timeframe they should be selling like hotcakes. Unless Bioware sells their games at $5 on launch, at their current rep and audience engagement, they're not hitting those numbers.

Yeah, no thanks. I would rather spend my £60 on something that I'll actually enjoy.

It's not that it's for PS fans, but it is of little use to XSEX and PC owners. It is more likely to find some userbase on PS5, than the other platforms. The problem is that the ME fanbase on PlayStation is rather ... limited. Unless a majority of the Mass Effect fanbase moved out from the XBOX/MicroSoft ecosystem to the PlayStation ecosystem for good. Let's be real, ME1 not being on the PS3, but coming out much later with the "Trilogy" edition and Andromeda being so underwhelming really didn't help Mass Effect solidify as a franchise on PlayStation.


On launch. I don't see it selling millions. Because the XBOX and PC userbase already own the games and can play them on their console of choice, even through Game Pass, if they don't directly own the games. Considering how much smaller the fanbase is on PlayStation, I don't see it selling like hotcakes. Once the price drops to more "palatable" numbers for such old games, or are at least available for a reduced price, if you own the originals, through individual titles or the Trilogy pack, I don't see people clamoring for a remaster of a 9-14 year old games, for $60, when more modern, more impressive games are out, taking better advantage of the new hardware. Unless people don't care for new games and are only interested in retro titles. Maybe I'm wrong, though. It wouldn't be the first time.


Probably make another game, with a very small budget, that is a side-quel of a side-quel, because the money isn't there and the publisher has no confidence in it as a franchise, anymore. If Bioware is even left alive long enough to release it.


If that's what we're getting, I'd like to see it too, but I honestly don't. It's not going to save ME, it's not going to revitalize it and at best, we're stuck in 2012, with the same problem, the same characters and an equally uncertain future. People don't trust BioWare anymore to deliver something original and good. Every new batch of characters has turned up in the trash, because people don't seem to be interested in them and they can't carry the games they are in. Yes, people here are going to swarm me with how loved the Inquisition cast is and how great the Andromeda cast was. There's next to no community content of them and what content there is has garnered little engagement and even less praise. The gaming community has largely panned them all.


I'm having a hard time believing it. There are very rare occasions that remasters sell that well. As far as I know, Skyrim and TLoU are the only exceptions. Recently, the Mafia Trilogy, which had a remake of Mafia 1, sold competently, but not as impressively. Remasters selling multiple millions of copies isn't that common.


Eh ... if you're still waiting for a DLC to go on sale, after almost 9 years to buy it, chances are you were never that interested in it, to begin with. So this isn't really a selling point. Or you're just not that into ME in general. Which means you won't be getting this on day 1.


I think that ME:A would be a detractor, honestly. I know that most people who got introduced to ME through Andromeda were just ... not impressed. So what are the chances these "retro" games will sway them, for a texture and lighting pack and hundreds of hours of this cringe shit, only lower polygon count and just as buggy?


Apparently not. It's just not included. It's not an option on the menu, I guess.


Well, you'd completely remove the "Galactic Readiness" score that influences EMS through MP. You'd get the bare minimum you got with no MP and it would be enough, regardless.


It looked great on those XSEX videos through "Smart Delivery". About as good as "vanilla" ME on PC. For ME1, at least. It would look even better on a more modern TV. And that's not even the remaster.


I've said it, there really does seem to be something happening. I don't doubt all these VAs got together for shits and giggles. But I also find it unlikely that they were hired to promote a remaster, on which they didn't even work on. I mean, I don't expect any additional content to be developed for it and I don't expect the VAs to have just gone back and redone their lines. And at this point I'd like to point out again how Luke Barrett did not answer when I asked if Bioware is done with the MET crew. And there are many answers he could have given, but the only one I got was "no, 2 days isn't that long to answer back and I'm not on ME development". And I do understand the dude is busy and he's not going to be here to answer everything, but Mac told us a little after the ME3 ending debacle that the characters were done, what we felt was attachment and that was bad for us, so we should all move on from them, because they were not coming back. And that was from the lead writer of ME. You can't be more final than that. The characters are retired, we should not expect them back and that's all Luke needed to say. But he side stepped the question. At no point did he say no, or anything resembling it. Which I find more telling. Either Bioware knows there's no moving past the MET crew, or they know that by not including them, in a meaningful way, as I stated in the question to Luke, not as cameos, they're basically killing off the hype for their next game. And they don't want that. That's my take.


Remasters are low risk, low investment, potential high return titles. They do have an audience and publishers do love them for it. Which is why you keep seeing them. A ME remaster, without the "remake" of ME1, would sell enough to make it a $10 return to $1 spent success. That's fantastic RoI.

Or some people have played it to the point that doing another trilogy playthough is pointless.

True. But some people (like myself) have all but clocked the game and worked out how to get the most points from the War Assets from across all three games, rendering anymore playthoughs null and voided.

Sometimes I play for the story (like most story based games), sometimes just to be a badass (like DOOM). But most times (and that's 80% of the time), I play for both.

But with the MET it feels like I was playing the galaxies errand boy/girl. And that's what really puts me off playing the MET.

For me I gues it has something t odo wit hmy diasbilit yas I'm quite the opposite and I guess I l8ike playing something that's alpowerful like a DA mage o ra biotic Shep or something. Obviously Bioware games give me that and Bioware's gamesw aern tthat difficult either which is perfec tfor me. For me I think tha tBioware's game's aren't hard is why I get so much replayability from them.