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Post by Iakus on Oct 26, 2020 17:09:19 GMT
Exactly. Oh, I'm not that excited for a remaster (despite some arguments here), because I have a PC and mods are running as strong as ever. Including maaany stories and interactions Bioware would never do because it would be a complete overhaul for the game instead of a simple remaster. But, hey, people would call me PC Master Racer, so I just say that, considering console people "hey, not everyone has PC, you should stop thinking about yourself". But TBH, if Bioware is intending to win us back with a Remaster and truly compensate the next releases, they have my attention. Plus, if ME1 gets updated with the gameplay, it sure would attract many new people for the fandom, because come on, many people do drop the intention of playing the trilogy after seeing the whole wonky controls and the Mako. Oh dear, the Mako. I had a much easier time with the PC Mako controls then the console ones for you could drive and fire in two different separate directions. There were just a few planets that were the problem for me, not the Mako itself. I wouldn't even use the scope for the Mako. Made combat too easy.
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Post by ewigDunkelheit on Oct 26, 2020 18:16:17 GMT
How accurate an assumption do we think it is that this supposed remaster is measure of interest in the franchise?
I, for one, am very eager for a new entry in the series, whether a continuation, or exploring another narrative in the continuum. However, as a big Mass Effect fan, I have zero interest in a remaster/remake. In such a case, my refusal to spend money on a second copy of the trilogy would supposedly be signaling that I don't care about Mass Effect, when, in fact, I just don't care about unnecessary waste.
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Post by jclosed on Oct 26, 2020 18:42:27 GMT
How accurate an assumption do we think it is that this supposed remaster is measure of interest in the franchise? I, for one, am very eager for a new entry in the series, whether a continuation, or exploring another narrative in the continuum. However, as a big Mass Effect fan, I have zero interest in a remaster/remake. In such a case, my refusal to spend money on a second copy of the trilogy would supposedly be signaling that I don't care about Mass Effect, when, in fact, I just don't care about unnecessary waste. Well - What can I say? I completely agree here! No way I am going to buy a remastered version of the old ME trilogy. I have played those games until all bolts came loose, and frankly cannot stomach the idea of doing the same stuff again. I am done with it. Don't get me wrong - I love the general universe of the Mass Effect stories, but playing the same old stuff again only in higher resolution (and maybe more detail) does not excites me in any way.
What I WAS hoping for, is a sequel to Mass Effect Andromeda, where all loose ends (and lost arks) where tied up to a better story. For me MEA was only the start, comparable to the first ME. However - Putting all effort in a remaster seems an enormous waste of time and energy. That time and energy should have been put in a brand new ME game, and not in a revival of the old dusty smelling corpse. Maybe harsh - But that's the way I see it.
As thing are now, we won't see anything fresh and new in this franchise, and that makes me sad...
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Post by SirSourpuss on Oct 26, 2020 18:57:38 GMT
How accurate an assumption do we think it is that this supposed remaster is measure of interest in the franchise? Assuming we are getting it, because I'm not entirely sure DDOUBLE DRAGON is a title we are getting any time soon, either, Bioware could be doing it out of the kindness of their heart and/or to make a quick buck, but if it fails to generate any significant revenue, or falls short of projections, do you think this will not influence further titles in the franchise? In terms of projected revenue and RoI, therefore the amount EA is willing to invest into these games? Especially coming from the admitted commercial and critical failure of Andromeda and the "icing" of the franchise. This a "testing of the waters" sort of case.
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Post by scalt on Oct 27, 2020 0:06:04 GMT
If this remaster is "testing of the waters", then who is the target audience? The trilogy is old enough and have been countless times on discount and now is even on steam. EA have all the metrics through the years, what more could they want? Everyone know the trilogy is super popular and was played a lot, what could some resolution and gameplay tweaks to change in general? I also think this remaster is waste of resources and time and even with the new console gen i don't think there will be lot of sales.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Oct 27, 2020 0:49:17 GMT
If this remaster is "testing of the waters", then who is the target audience? I've honestly no idea, my dude. I think it's a bad idea to use this as a metric, but it is the most risk averse thing they could produce. Which is probably why we are getting merchandise again. This will generate data as to who is left in the fanbase and what the monetization potential for Bioware and their franchises is. EA have all the metrics through the years, what more could they want? Well, if they made projections about ME:A selling 4-6 million copies in its first 6 weeks and sold about 2.5 million copies, I'd argue their data fell through. So somewhere, something went wrong. Considering the "acclaim" Inquisition got and the "success" of ME3, you'd be crazy to think otherwise, as a corporate analyst. Of course the userbase would buy it in droves. Only they didn't. So new data needs to be generated to create a new picture, or else they are in danger of getting another case where the RoI doesn't make up for the money they need to give back to their investors. Everyone know the trilogy is super popular and was played a lot, what could some resolution and gameplay tweaks to change in general? Some people, a lot of ME1 purists, are going to absolutely hate the changes to ME1 we are reportedly getting. I also think this remaster is waste of resources and time and even with the new console gen i don't think there will be lot of sales. As I've said, the only possible market for it, is the PS5, because the trilogy doesn't seem to be on the PS5 backward compatibility list, so you'd have to buy it through the PS5 digital store, if it is even available there and it won't even enjoy the features of the XSEX smart delivery. It will be exactly like playing the PS3 versions of the games, just at a steady 30 fps, at 720p. I don't know how much of an audience ME has on the PS userbase, though, to want to go back and buy/play the trilogy. My guess is that the remaster is a $10-5 bargain bin title, down the road, maybe. PC and XSEX will even have it on the gamepass, since it integrated EA Play. I'll be surprised if it sell well on XSEX and PC, I'll also be surprised if it sells well on the PS5. At launch. I just don't see it.
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Post by Sanunes on Oct 27, 2020 13:48:36 GMT
If this remaster is "testing of the waters", then who is the target audience? I've honestly no idea, my dude. I think it's a bad idea to use this as a metric, but it is the most risk averse thing they could produce. Which is probably why we are getting merchandise again. This will generate data as to who is left in the fanbase and what the monetization potential for Bioware and their franchises is. EA have all the metrics through the years, what more could they want? Well, if they made projections about ME:A selling 4-6 million copies in its first 6 weeks and sold about 2.5 million copies, I'd argue their data fell through. So somewhere, something went wrong. Considering the "acclaim" Inquisition got and the "success" of ME3, you'd be crazy to think otherwise, as a corporate analyst. Of course the userbase would buy it in droves. Only they didn't. So new data needs to be generated to create a new picture, or else they are in danger of getting another case where the RoI doesn't make up for the money they need to give back to their investors. Everyone know the trilogy is super popular and was played a lot, what could some resolution and gameplay tweaks to change in general? Some people, a lot of ME1 purists, are going to absolutely hate the changes to ME1 we are reportedly getting. I also think this remaster is waste of resources and time and even with the new console gen i don't think there will be lot of sales. As I've said, the only possible market for it, is the PS5, because the trilogy doesn't seem to be on the PS5 backward compatibility list, so you'd have to buy it through the PS5 digital store, if it is even available there and it won't even enjoy the features of the XSEX smart delivery. It will be exactly like playing the PS3 versions of the games, just at a steady 30 fps, at 720p. I don't know how much of an audience ME has on the PS userbase, though, to want to go back and buy/play the trilogy. My guess is that the remaster is a $10-5 bargain bin title, down the road, maybe. PC and XSEX will even have it on the gamepass, since it integrated EA Play. I'll be surprised if it sell well on XSEX and PC, I'll also be surprised if it sells well on the PS5. At launch. I just don't see it. I am not even sure a remaster would give them that kind of new information even for the one estimation for sales being so far off. Unlike games like Command and Conqueror, Mass Effect is still a recent game that people are still playing. I was even playing Andromeda's multiplayer last night for a couple of hours, its not nearly as popular as in the past, but groups still form. Along with things like EA Play and the backwards compatiblity on the Xbox already those should be enough metrics that show people playing the game without the costs of a remaster. My speculation is that this is either for the Playstation fans that cannot play the games on their new hardware or that its just a bone to throw to people because it still years before the next game, but if the reports are correct about the different things that are happening with it I don't understand why at all. Overhauling ME1 is going to frustrate just as many people as it might please and not including ME3MP I think is going to hurt one of the biggest selling points of that game. Its why I remain skeptical until its announced and with the latest day of speculation that it might be announced less then two weeks away its going to be interesting to see what happens.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Oct 27, 2020 23:29:35 GMT
I am not even sure a remaster would give them that kind of new information even for the one estimation for sales being so far off It won't tell them what went wrong, but it could tell them what they can consider a "sure thing" going forward. And that could go a long way in adjusting expectations for EA, RoI and margins. Unlike games like Command and Conqueror, Mass Effect is still a recent game that people are still playing. I was even playing Andromeda's multiplayer last night for a couple of hours, its not nearly as popular as in the past, but groups still form. Along with things like EA Play and the backwards compatiblity on the Xbox already those should be enough metrics that show people playing the game without the costs of a remaster. That's just people that have found a cozy niche to keep them occupied, either online or in SP and that's about what they can afford/care for. It doesn't mean these people will buy your remaster. And remember, the remaster supposedly won't feature ME3MP. Which might be a huge realization for EA. There's ... a lot going on with EA right now and I know that the lootboxes are keeping them safe right now, but that may not be the case for long. It's probably too late to save DA4 from being a "live service" game, though. My head hurst just trying to figure this shit out. My speculation is that this is either for the Playstation fans that cannot play the games on their new hardware or that its just a bone to throw to people because it still years before the next game, but if the reports are correct about the different things that are happening with it I don't understand why at all. Overhauling ME1 is going to frustrate just as many people as it might please and not including ME3MP I think is going to hurt one of the biggest selling points of that game. Yeah, yeah. Exactly. It is meant to "revitalize" the fanbase, which it can't do, but also to help EA/Bioware understand what and if they can do with it. I wouldn't be surprised if the outcome is more negative than positive. Its why I remain skeptical until its announced and with the latest day of speculation that it might be announced less then two weeks away its going to be interesting to see what happens. I don't think its getting announced on N7 day. We'll see.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Oct 28, 2020 1:15:58 GMT
I've honestly no idea, my dude. I think it's a bad idea to use this as a metric, but it is the most risk averse thing they could produce. Which is probably why we are getting merchandise again. This will generate data as to who is left in the fanbase and what the monetization potential for Bioware and their franchises is. Well, if they made projections about ME:A selling 4-6 million copies in its first 6 weeks and sold about 2.5 million copies, I'd argue their data fell through. So somewhere, something went wrong. Considering the "acclaim" Inquisition got and the "success" of ME3, you'd be crazy to think otherwise, as a corporate analyst. Of course the userbase would buy it in droves. Only they didn't. So new data needs to be generated to create a new picture, or else they are in danger of getting another case where the RoI doesn't make up for the money they need to give back to their investors. Some people, a lot of ME1 purists, are going to absolutely hate the changes to ME1 we are reportedly getting. As I've said, the only possible market for it, is the PS5, because the trilogy doesn't seem to be on the PS5 backward compatibility list, so you'd have to buy it through the PS5 digital store, if it is even available there and it won't even enjoy the features of the XSEX smart delivery. It will be exactly like playing the PS3 versions of the games, just at a steady 30 fps, at 720p. I don't know how much of an audience ME has on the PS userbase, though, to want to go back and buy/play the trilogy. My guess is that the remaster is a $10-5 bargain bin title, down the road, maybe. PC and XSEX will even have it on the gamepass, since it integrated EA Play. I'll be surprised if it sell well on XSEX and PC, I'll also be surprised if it sells well on the PS5. At launch. I just don't see it. I am not even sure a remaster would give them that kind of new information even for the one estimation for sales being so far off. Unlike games like Command and Conqueror, Mass Effect is still a recent game that people are still playing. I was even playing Andromeda's multiplayer last night for a couple of hours, its not nearly as popular as in the past, but groups still form. Along with things like EA Play and the backwards compatiblity on the Xbox already those should be enough metrics that show people playing the game without the costs of a remaster. My speculation is that this is either for the Playstation fans that cannot play the games on their new hardware or that its just a bone to throw to people because it still years before the next game, but if the reports are correct about the different things that are happening with it I don't understand why at all. Overhauling ME1 is going to frustrate just as many people as it might please and not including ME3MP I think is going to hurt one of the biggest selling points of that game. Its why I remain skeptical until its announced and with the latest day of speculation that it might be announced less then two weeks away its going to be interesting to see what happens. Yea hwhilst I don' ttouch the MP all tha toften if at all I still pla ythe singleplayer as it'sstill a lot of fun. Fo rme i tdoesn't really need remastering as the graphics even on ME1 aren' t that bad by today sstandards. TBH a rerelease on PS4/5 is really all it needs. It doesn' tneed anything els eas both PC and Xbox users can pla yit just fine and given the series X has full compatibilt ywith all previous Xbox games it won' t need a remaster either tbh.
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Post by Cyberstrike on Oct 28, 2020 13:38:20 GMT
How accurate an assumption do we think it is that this supposed remaster is measure of interest in the franchise? I, for one, am very eager for a new entry in the series, whether a continuation, or exploring another narrative in the continuum. However, as a big Mass Effect fan, I have zero interest in a remaster/remake. In such a case, my refusal to spend money on a second copy of the trilogy would supposedly be signaling that I don't care about Mass Effect, when, in fact, I just don't care about unnecessary waste. Well - What can I say? I completely agree here! No way I am going to buy a remastered version of the old ME trilogy. I have played those games until all bolts came loose, and frankly cannot stomach the idea of doing the same stuff again. I am done with it. Don't get me wrong - I love the general universe of the Mass Effect stories, but playing the same old stuff again only in higher resolution (and maybe more detail) does not excites me in any way.
What I WAS hoping for, is a sequel to Mass Effect Andromeda, where all loose ends (and lost arks) where tied up to a better story. For me MEA was only the start, comparable to the first ME. However - Putting all effort in a remaster seems an enormous waste of time and energy. That time and energy should have been put in a brand new ME game, and not in a revival of the old dusty smelling corpse. Maybe harsh - But that's the way I see it.
As thing are now, we won't see anything fresh and new in this franchise, and that makes me sad...
Sad but true.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Oct 28, 2020 14:34:04 GMT
Well - What can I say? I completely agree here! No way I am going to buy a remastered version of the old ME trilogy. I have played those games until all bolts came loose, and frankly cannot stomach the idea of doing the same stuff again. I am done with it. Don't get me wrong - I love the general universe of the Mass Effect stories, but playing the same old stuff again only in higher resolution (and maybe more detail) does not excites me in any way.
What I WAS hoping for, is a sequel to Mass Effect Andromeda, where all loose ends (and lost arks) where tied up to a better story. For me MEA was only the start, comparable to the first ME. However - Putting all effort in a remaster seems an enormous waste of time and energy. That time and energy should have been put in a brand new ME game, and not in a revival of the old dusty smelling corpse. Maybe harsh - But that's the way I see it.
As thing are now, we won't see anything fresh and new in this franchise, and that makes me sad...
Sad but true.
Indeed I'm not giong t obyu a ermastered version when the curren tversion works jus tfine. I tma ybe good if anyone doesn't own or has played the originals as that's the onl yreason why I'm considering the remastre of Hot pursuitas I never owned the origina lof that. But I think most people that like that kind of game did. Especially as all 3 were pretty high in the charts around the time of their releases.
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Post by ahglock on Oct 28, 2020 14:43:28 GMT
I mean its great that you guys wont be purchasing it but do you think that people crazy enough to stick around on forums 3 years after the last mass effect game and 8 years after the trilogy ended are in any way reflective of the market?
We just aren't, we are an extreme outlier of what people like and want.
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Post by therevanchist25 on Oct 28, 2020 15:37:14 GMT
I mean its great that you guys wont be purchasing it but do you think that people crazy enough to stick around on forums 3 years after the last mass effect game and 8 years after the trilogy ended are in any way reflective of the market? We just aren't, we are an extreme outlier of what people like and want. There are a lot of people these days who haven't played the Trilogy. Heck just yesterday I walked into a Service Station with my N7 hat on and they thought it was Dead Space for a second, then when I told them it was Mass Effect he was like "oh, that Andromeda game!...yea that game was kinda bad. I only played cuz my buddy made me." That guy is pretty indicative of where ME is in the eyes of the wider gaming community. People on these forums (including me) are just old die hards who don't really fit into the primary video game demographic. That is why Bioware basically ignores all of our feedback here, except for LukeBarrett, You're awesome for actually wasting time around here.
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Post by Cyberstrike on Oct 28, 2020 17:17:50 GMT
Indeed I'm not giong t obyu a ermastered version when the curren tversion works jus tfine. I tma ybe good if anyone doesn't own or has played the originals as that's the onl yreason why I'm considering the remastre of Hot pursuitas I never owned the origina lof that. But I think most people that like that kind of game did. Especially as all 3 were pretty high in the charts around the time of their releases.
If the MET a game released say 20 years ago on platforms that are no longer around then I would say I would be more in favor of a remaster. But games where the software and hardware (the consoles) and that PC versions are still working just fine.
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Post by KaiserShep on Oct 28, 2020 18:24:46 GMT
I am not even sure a remaster would give them that kind of new information even for the one estimation for sales being so far off It won't tell them what went wrong, but it could tell them what they can consider a "sure thing" going forward. And that could go a long way in adjusting expectations for EA, RoI and margins. Unlike games like Command and Conqueror, Mass Effect is still a recent game that people are still playing. I was even playing Andromeda's multiplayer last night for a couple of hours, its not nearly as popular as in the past, but groups still form. Along with things like EA Play and the backwards compatiblity on the Xbox already those should be enough metrics that show people playing the game without the costs of a remaster. That's just people that have found a cozy niche to keep them occupied, either online or in SP and that's about what they can afford/care for. It doesn't mean these people will buy your remaster. And remember, the remaster supposedly won't feature ME3MP. Which might be a huge realization for EA. There's ... a lot going on with EA right now and I know that the lootboxes are keeping them safe right now, but that may not be the case for long. It's probably too late to save DA4 from being a "live service" game, though. My head hurst just trying to figure this shit out. My speculation is that this is either for the Playstation fans that cannot play the games on their new hardware or that its just a bone to throw to people because it still years before the next game, but if the reports are correct about the different things that are happening with it I don't understand why at all. Overhauling ME1 is going to frustrate just as many people as it might please and not including ME3MP I think is going to hurt one of the biggest selling points of that game. Yeah, yeah. Exactly. It is meant to "revitalize" the fanbase, which it can't do, but also to help EA/Bioware understand what and if they can do with it. I wouldn't be surprised if the outcome is more negative than positive. Its why I remain skeptical until its announced and with the latest day of speculation that it might be announced less then two weeks away its going to be interesting to see what happens. I don't think its getting announced on N7 day. We'll see. Unless I’m mistaken, Ye Olde ME3MP is actually still technically alive, so it would make sense that a revised version of the old trilogy wouldn’t include it. I doubt EA/BioWare would really want to go back and start retroactively updating the old game with cross-platform/generation capability, and veteran players are likely to have no incentive to start anew in that ecosystem either. I don’t think multiplayer’s absence would have a particularly meaningful impact on the game’s prospects, even if EA themselves still want to believe online multiplayer is the ultimate endgame for all gaming. The idea that loot boxes would keep any publisher or developer safe is tragically hilarious and ironic. Imagine, the shitty gambling tactic that contributed to the ruination of game quality across the board from these major corporations, becoming some sort of sad life support system because they couldn’t be arsed to actually make better games that gave more quality up-front. It’s like poetry; it rhymes. In reality though, I think EA is starting to get the idea that people aren’t as eager to suck their dicks and believe their lies, so perhaps there’s some hope and that anything “live service” we get won’t be some nickel and dime system that sells us a premium price game in a freemium model. I also don’t really think it’s going to be announced, but with nothing else to talk about I guess it’s fun to speculate. I won’t lie that I’d be disappointed. Having people complain (or gloat) that nothing happened is not as interesting as people complaining about the real product coming true.
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Post by Cyberstrike on Oct 28, 2020 19:09:03 GMT
I mean its great that you guys wont be purchasing it but do you think that people crazy enough to stick around on forums 3 years after the last mass effect game and 8 years after the trilogy ended are in any way reflective of the market? We just aren't, we are an extreme outlier of what people like and want. There are a lot of people these days who haven't played the Trilogy. Heck just yesterday I walked into a Service Station with my N7 hat on and they thought it was Dead Space for a second, then when I told them it was Mass Effect he was like "oh, that Andromeda game!...yea that game was kinda bad. I only played cuz my buddy made me." That guy is pretty indicative of where ME is in the eyes of the wider gaming community. People on these forums (including me) are just old die hards who don't really fit into the primary video game demographic. That is why Bioware basically ignores all of our feedback here, except for LukeBarrett , You're awesome for actually wasting time around here.
The simple truth is: getting new fans who haven't played the MET the first go around aren't going to be coming in droves now just because a 12 year old game gets graphics update either.
I think the Mass Effect fanbase is as big as it's ever going to get.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Oct 28, 2020 19:16:22 GMT
Unless I’m mistaken, Ye Olde ME3MP is actually still technically alive, so it would make sense that a revised version of the old trilogy wouldn’t include it. I doubt EA/BioWare would really want to go back and start retroactively updating the old game with cross-platform/generation capability It's a great way to get people back and boost that MTX revenue, either through old players, or new players getting into the trilogy. You can make the old MP backwards compatible. I don't think it would require that much work. You don't need to update the old MP mode, you just need to include it for the remaster, exactly as it were, or you can patch the old game, for the MP alone, to be compatible with the remaster's. I don’t think multiplayer’s absence would have a particularly meaningful impact on the game’s prospects, even if EA themselves still want to believe online multiplayer is the ultimate endgame for all gaming. We've had forum members here saying they're just not interested in it, since it won't have MP. Considering the larger fanbase was very fond of the MP, this will impact sales. Even if it isn't the end all be all. The idea that loot boxes would keep any publisher or developer safe is tragically hilarious and ironic It is a very reassuring cushion for any publisher, while it fills up the coffers. Imagine, the shitty gambling tactic that contributed to the ruination of game quality across the board from these major corporations, becoming some sort of sad life support system because they couldn’t be arsed to actually make better games that gave more quality up-front. *Stares at EA and its streak of ill received titles, from Star Wars: Battlefront to Anthem Haha, yeah, imagine thinking that *Sweats bullets I think EA is starting to get the idea that people aren’t as eager to suck their dicks and believe their lies, so perhaps there’s some hope and that anything “live service” we get won’t be some nickel and dime system that sells us a premium price game in a freemium model. I think the grind will be more fair and the MTX will be to buy specific items, not lootboxes. The specific items may be overpriced, but it's an upfront transaction, at least. And you will be able to gain these items through gameplay, without the grueling grind. I also don’t really think it’s going to be announced, but with nothing else to talk about I guess it’s fun to speculate. I won’t lie that I’d be disappointed. Having people complain (or gloat) that nothing happened is not as interesting as people complaining about the real product coming true. The online community could be revitalized, in terms of content creation, from a remaster and it is the most positive thing I am looking forward to from this remaster, provided it is real. On the other hand, getting all these VAs back to bank on nostalgia can't be coincidental, but, just like the remaster itself, isn't helping the franchise move forward. Everyone is going to hanker back to the pre-ME3 meltdown debacle, with nothing to look forward to, for another ... 6 years, at best. It's like Bioware is admitting that "only this is Mass Effect" and that nothing else can be. Which begs the questions of why retire the crew in the first place and how are you going to move forward? I don't know what this message Bioware is trying to convey to the fanbase is attempting to achieve. Am I reading it wrong?
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Oct 28, 2020 19:42:11 GMT
Indeed I'm not giong t obyu a ermastered version when the curren tversion works jus tfine. I tma ybe good if anyone doesn't own or has played the originals as that's the onl yreason why I'm considering the remastre of Hot pursuitas I never owned the origina lof that. But I think most people that like that kind of game did. Especially as all 3 were pretty high in the charts around the time of their releases.
If the MET a game released say 20 years ago on platforms that are no longer around then I would say I would be more in favor of a remaster. But games where the software and hardware (the consoles) and that PC versions are still working just fine.
Exactly if the gam ewas aPS1/2 gen game I could undrestand a remake/rmaster being wanted like what Resident Evil 2 and 3 got. Bur because all 4 games (and by 4 I mean MEA as well as the trilogy) really were made on and for more modern hardware that is still in use today so a remaster isn' t really required. I can see PS people may clamour for it given that their systems don't have backwards compatibility like the xbox and PC do. But a simple rerelease of the trilogy could solve that problem. No need for a remaster there either
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Post by SirSourpuss on Oct 28, 2020 20:08:33 GMT
Exactly if the gam ewas aPS1/2 gen game I could undrestand a remake/rmaster being wanted like what Resident Evil 2 and 3 got. Bur because all 4 games (and by 4 I mean MEA as well as the trilogy) really were made on and for more modern hardware that is still in use today so a remaster isn' t really required. I can see PS people may clamour for it given that their systems don't have backwards compatibility like the xbox and PC do. But a simple rerelease of the trilogy could solve that problem. No need for a remaster there either Exactly. The only point of it, is if you specifically want it for the PS ecosystem. I don't see it being that successful.
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Post by Cyberstrike on Oct 28, 2020 21:04:06 GMT
If the MET a game released say 20 years ago on platforms that are no longer around then I would say I would be more in favor of a remaster. But games where the software and hardware (the consoles) and that PC versions are still working just fine.
Exactly if the gam ewas aPS1/2 gen game I could undrestand a remake/rmaster being wanted like what Resident Evil 2 and 3 got. Bur because all 4 games (and by 4 I mean MEA as well as the trilogy) really were made on and for more modern hardware that is still in use today so a remaster isn' t really required. I can see PS people may clamour for it given that their systems don't have backwards compatibility like the xbox and PC do. But a simple rerelease of the trilogy could solve that problem. No need for a remaster there either
Exactly.
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Post by therevanchist25 on Oct 29, 2020 8:20:12 GMT
There are a lot of people these days who haven't played the Trilogy. Heck just yesterday I walked into a Service Station with my N7 hat on and they thought it was Dead Space for a second, then when I told them it was Mass Effect he was like "oh, that Andromeda game!...yea that game was kinda bad. I only played cuz my buddy made me." That guy is pretty indicative of where ME is in the eyes of the wider gaming community. People on these forums (including me) are just old die hards who don't really fit into the primary video game demographic. That is why Bioware basically ignores all of our feedback here, except for LukeBarrett , You're awesome for actually wasting time around here.
The simple truth is: getting new fans who haven't played the MET the first go around aren't going to be coming in droves now just because a 12 year old game gets graphics update either.
I think the Mass Effect fanbase is as big as it's ever going to get.
Heres the one point I'll push back on. There have been games in my life, that I had literally never even heard of, until a Remaster for it came out, or a game I personally didn't have a means of playing. Most gamers are Console Gamers, and most Console Gamers don't keep their consoles from the previous generation. These are facts. I know for a fact, because all my buddies are the same. So are their buddies, and theirs, on down the line. I stand alone as the packrack that keeps all the consoles. Even if potential new fans have heard of the ME trilogy, most of them are likely console peasants who don't own last gen hardware anymore to try them. Companies like EA know this, not everyone who works for that company is stupid afterall.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Oct 29, 2020 12:08:00 GMT
The simple truth is: getting new fans who haven't played the MET the first go around aren't going to be coming in droves now just because a 12 year old game gets graphics update either.
I think the Mass Effect fanbase is as big as it's ever going to get.
Heres the one point I'll push back on. There have been games in my life, that I had literally never even heard of, until a Remaster for it came out, or a game I personally didn't have a means of playing. Most gamers are Console Gamers, and most Console Gamers don't keep their consoles from the previous generation. These are facts. I know for a fact, because all my buddies are the same. So are their buddies, and theirs, on down the line. I stand alone as the packrack that keeps all the consoles. Even if potential new fans have heard of the ME trilogy, most of them are likely console peasants who don't own last gen hardware anymore to try them. Companies like EA know this, not everyone who works for that company is stupid afterall. True but will EA make enough money out of it to justify a remaster? I think given that both PC and Xbox can still play the originals is likely no. I think EA will always ask themselves first whether this is the case. If Xbox had no tdecided to go backwards compatible then maybe it might have been worth a shot but MShave made Xbox backewards friendly so it makes it less likely.
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Post by kalreegar on Oct 29, 2020 13:06:05 GMT
Nothing. Improved graphic and that's it.
The trilogy is almost perfect as it is.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Oct 29, 2020 13:44:50 GMT
The trilogy is almost perfect as it is. I mean ... sure.
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Post by garrusfan1 on Oct 29, 2020 17:21:17 GMT
I love the ME trilogy and have played it an emberassing amount of times. However if it's just a remaster and is just improved graphics and such then I am not chucking out sixty bucks for it. If it is a remake or has a good bit of stuff changed then yes I will buy it.
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