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Post by LadyofNemesis on Sept 8, 2020 9:50:36 GMT
So...I had this thought for the past few days but...the line Solas' VA says in this vid...what if it's during this 'scene'? Solas on the ground, possibly hurt (or on the verge of death) and possibly taunting the new protagonist with whatever mistake they may or may not be making (or have made) at that moment
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Post by colfoley on Sept 8, 2020 9:53:13 GMT
This should have happened as soon as that suspicious elf showed up at the Chantry's front door, in Inquisition. It's amazing they didn't shoot Cole thru the head as soon as he appeared well cass and Cullen did draw their weapons.
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Post by colfoley on Sept 8, 2020 9:55:30 GMT
So...I had this thought for the past few days but...the line Solas' VA says in this vid...what if it's during this 'scene'? Solas on the ground, possibly hurt (or on the verge of death) and possibly taunting the new protagonist with whatever mistake they may or may not be making (or have made) at that moment
its funny you should bring that up because when doing my parody up there I imagined him being hurt, bleeding, and on the ground.
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Post by Rouccoco on Sept 8, 2020 10:14:25 GMT
Honestly, there's no DA-related talk I hate more than "is Isabela black though." Closely followed by "Duncan looked pretty white to me." Like even those endless "not bringing the Warden/Inquisitor back will ruin DA" posts are preferable.
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Post by ArcadiaGrey on Sept 8, 2020 10:17:23 GMT
It's amazing they didn't shoot Cole thru the head as soon as he appeared well cass and Cullen did draw their weapons. Still a little slow off a mark tho, for a demon and all
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Post by ArcadiaGrey on Sept 8, 2020 10:21:30 GMT
Honestly, there's no DA-related talk I hate more than "is Isabela black though." Closely followed by "Duncan looked pretty white to me." Like even those endless "not bringing the Warden/Inquisitor back will ruin DA" posts are preferable. It's so dumb Also the idea that there's black or white, 2 options. Isabela and Duncan are one of the manymanymany shades inbetween, from like Italy or Morocco or something. Neither of which exists in Thedas so who even gives a fuck anyway??
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Post by LadyofNemesis on Sept 8, 2020 10:48:39 GMT
its funny you should bring that up because when doing my parody up there I imagined him being hurt, bleeding, and on the ground. Yeah...when I saw Solas in the vid and heard his line I had two thoughts 1) what have they done to you? and 2) ...no wait, what've you done to yourself? Like...what they said about him in the vid about wanting to kill or marry him...yeah, I'm currently on the fence of killing him or giving him a big hug
though, might reserve the hug for his big fluffy wolf (I'm a dog person, and wolves are one of my favorite animals ) speaking of which...someone made a mod that replaces the Dracolisk mounts for huge wolves...they even made a "Dread Wolf" inspired recolor
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Post by Kappa Neko on Sept 8, 2020 10:49:32 GMT
If Solas gets killed in the prologue I might decide not to buy the game and give up on this franchise right there... Solas is standing naked on a cliff, holding some kind of artefact, ready to bring down the veil."Elven glor--" An arrow pierces through the back of his neck, killing him in an unexpected twist. Mythal's soul is freed and floats like a ghost in front of the archer."Thanks, kid. One more elven glory cry and I would have killed myself inside his body. Don't look so terrified. It's all going to be all right now. Time to dance once more! You have no idea who I am, do you, kid? Excellent! Just crawled out of a drain pipe or something, huh? Looks like you could need some good fortune shining on you. You're in luck then. I need help with something. Nothing too complicated. I just need to get in touch with old friends and settle a certain matter once and for all. All of Thedas will know your name if you agree to be of service. I promise. Do we have a deal?" The bewildered archer who shot a naked madman because that seemed the reasonable thing to do slowly extends their hand in agreement, then draws it back when Mythal rolls her ghost-like eyes and disappears after saying:"I'll be in touch."
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Post by pessimistpanda on Sept 8, 2020 10:57:54 GMT
You DO have a problem with a companion having a pro slavery opinion despite saying it makes sense for them, right? I freely admit that I personally do not like the fact that BioWare made Dorian pro-slavery in DAI. Nobody in the party should have been pro-slavery in DAI, but I think it sucks even more that the first gay male in the series was portrayed as pro-slavery. And no, it's not because he is a "bad representative" for gay men. It just makes me not like him as much as I would have otherwise. It's also not the only thing I dislike about Dorian, but I'm not going to get into that here. No. That is an entirely separate issue that I'm not going to get into here. In this argument, I am saying that BioWare can avoid slavery "controversy" as long as they don't have the "good" characters try to make excuses for it. Dorian and whether or not his opinions make sense and how he reflects on gay men is not actually relevant, except as an example of what NOT to do if they want to avoid controversy. I am ONLY talking about how BioWare can avoid controversy. Assuming BioWare DOES want to avoid controversy, that is. They may wish to court it instead. Controversy can sell. I don't know. I'm not black. I have no idea how black people feel about Vivienne. I'm not going to talk about characters being "representive" of real-life minorities. I don't consider Vivienne representative of black people, and I don't consider Dorian representative of gay men. BioWare can of course give fictional characters any opinions they want. I am not talking about what BioWare "should" do. I am only talking about how BioWare can avoid controversy about slavery. I hope this helps your attempt to understand.
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Post by Kappa Neko on Sept 8, 2020 11:22:17 GMT
BioWare can of course give fictional characters any opinions they want. I am not talking about what BioWare "should" do. I am only talking about how BioWare can avoid controversy about slavery. I hope this helps your attempt to understand. Yes, thank you! I still don't agree that a companion being pro slavery is controversial but let's leave it at that.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Sept 8, 2020 11:31:22 GMT
the first gay male in the series was portrayed as pro-slavery But neither of these should matter.
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Post by azarhal on Sept 8, 2020 12:21:47 GMT
BioWare can of course give fictional characters any opinions they want. I am not talking about what BioWare "should" do. I am only talking about how BioWare can avoid controversy about slavery. I hope this helps your attempt to understand. Yes, thank you! I still don't agree that a companion being pro slavery is controversial but let's leave it at that. He wasn't even the first pro-slavery companion in the series as Sten was. Qunari have slaves too. The Crows also buy people to use as recruits if they survive training. There is a lots of Crows imagery in the concept arts... Maybe the PC's backgrounds are: - Tevinter slave - Crows slave - Qunari slave
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Post by mousestalker on Sept 8, 2020 12:25:11 GMT
Theme song for some in this threadHopefully the moralities of the various characters will be what is consistent and appropriate. That is, Tevinters will either be in conformity with their culture or have very good reasons for not conforming. There is little more annoying than having fantasy characters spout post-modernistic nonsense, all in ideological lock step, and all at variance with their imaginary cultural norms. People who are bothered by the divergent opinions of fantasy characters really need more exposure to the real world. It is a sign of intellectual and emotional immaturity to demand that others alter their opinions to conform to your own simply because the difference bothers you.
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Post by Solas on Sept 8, 2020 12:42:59 GMT
LadyofNemesis fwiw he doesn't look to me like he's on the ground hurt/possibly on the verge of death from that shot on the screen in the BW studio. He looks like he's crouching down ready to drop some beats or sth In fact, I'm pretty sure the people making that dumbass argument just want to scapegoat "SJWs" or some shit for somehow pre-emptively ruining a game that WON'T BE OUT FOR YEARS. ?? Lost here. In case this needs clarifying from my part, no Edit: fixed the coding of the quote Some unrelated thoughts: - if Davrin is a Warden companion, it'd be cool if he was a Rogue. We've had maingame Warrior Warden companion (Blackwall EDIT: and Alistair. tfw you forget Alistair ) and Warden mage companion (Anders). Not including our Warden companions in the expansion - "Bellara" is an Australian place/town name. the word is of Aboriginal origin apparently - the statue head in the airships shot kinda reminds me of the one here, which is in a wealthy Nevarran crypt.
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Post by Rascoth on Sept 8, 2020 12:53:13 GMT
- if Davrin is a Warden companion, it'd be cool if he was a Rogue. We've had maingame Warrior Warden companion (Blackwall) and Warden mage companion (Anders). Not including our Warden companions in the expansion And in case we're not counting Blackwall as real Warden, Alistair was also a warrior. So yea, I agree it'd be nice if next Warden companion was a rogue, to complete the set
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Post by azarhal on Sept 8, 2020 13:44:09 GMT
- the statue head in the airships shot kinda reminds me of the one here, which is in a wealthy Nevarran crypt. Nevarrans do like their big statues. I thought Nevarra City was in a plain, but this Genitivi's sketch suggest otherwise. It's also right beside a river and you can see one at the bottom of the airship concept art. Also, I'm starting to think that this render and this concept are of the same city, but before and after Solas's doing his thing...and it would be Nevarra City.
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Post by AlleluiaElizabeth on Sept 8, 2020 14:17:32 GMT
You know after all this speculation, we'll end up killing Solas in the opening cut scene then catching a boat to Tevinter with a lot of sheepish looking elves and yet that would probably be the least surprising thing they can do. I don't trust marketing anymore. Though could you imagine? "What will they call you when this is-" wa bam arrow to the face. So... Sera in DA4 confirmed, then?
speaking of which...someone made a mod that replaces the Dracolisk mounts for huge wolves...they even made a "Dread Wolf" inspired recolor *incoherent fangirl squeal*... Ahem. Excuse me.
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Post by LadyofNemesis on Sept 8, 2020 14:42:56 GMT
speaking of which...someone made a mod that replaces the Dracolisk mounts for huge wolves...they even made a "Dread Wolf" inspired recolor *incoherent fangirl squeal*... Ahem. Excuse me. Breathe love, breathe
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Post by Hrungr on Sept 8, 2020 15:21:08 GMT
Here is a higher quality (and more complete) version of the "Action Shot" concept art.
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Post by arvaarad on Sept 8, 2020 16:03:55 GMT
Here is a higher quality (and more complete) version of the "Action Shot" concept art. Hoo boy those weapons the qunari character is holding. I think the original picture showed much less of the blades? I know they’re probably just crazy daggers, but I’m still crossing fingers and toes for an axe-wielding lumberjack/farmer/carpenter Qunari. We’ve heard that Qunari farmers can fight if necessary. And we could really use some perspective from the folks under the Arigena. Plus, it’s important for us to see cutscenes of that character chopping wood. Very, very important. Because we need the, uh, firewood. The thick, sinewy, extremely jacked firewood.
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Post by Buckeldemon on Sept 8, 2020 16:13:10 GMT
Hoo boy those weapons the qunari character is holding. I think the original picture showed much less of the blades? I know they’re probably just crazy daggers, but I’m still crossing fingers and toes for an axe-wielding lumberjack/farmer/carpenter Qunari. We’ve heard that Qunari farmers can fight if necessary. And we could really use some perspective from the folks under the Arigena. Come to think of it... the (imitated) Qunari saw swords in DAO were already much like axes. And then there was this. I want those things to be axes/crazy swords and the female Qunari to be a specialist dual-wield warrior who shows all these butter-knife nuts/toothpick-toters.
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Post by Hrungr on Sept 8, 2020 16:14:30 GMT
Hoo boy those weapons the qunari character is holding. I think the original picture showed much less of the blades? I know they’re probably just crazy daggers, but I’m still crossing fingers and toes for an axe-wielding lumberjack/farmer/carpenter Qunari. The trailer barely hinted at the size of those cleavers/axes. But yeah, they'll probably still be classified as "daggers".
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Post by Rascoth on Sept 8, 2020 16:22:26 GMT
Hoo boy those weapons the qunari character is holding. I think the original picture showed much less of the blades? I know they’re probably just crazy daggers, but I’m still crossing fingers and toes for an axe-wielding lumberjack/farmer/carpenter Qunari. The trailer barely hinted at the size of those cleavers/axes. But yeah, they'll probably still be classified as "daggers". Yeah, those are most likely "daggers". Just like these were "daggers". That being said, I wouldn't mind return of dw warriors. Unlikely, but let me imagine wielding two Brands, just for a moment
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Post by Solas on Sept 8, 2020 16:42:56 GMT
Aah yey I was waiting for a full pic/clearer detail of the one with Badass Elf in it Looks like he's wielding a simple staff. Either mage or a simple staff-fighter like Irian Cestes.
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Post by Hrungr on Sept 8, 2020 16:49:40 GMT
Aah yey I was waiting for a full pic/clearer detail of the one with Badass Elf in it Looks like he's wielding a simple staff. Either mage or a simple staff-fighter like Irian Cestes. I was guessing staff-fighter too. Simple staff + trying to hit someone with it. And given the long dust trail behind speedy on the left, I wonder if that's a class feature or something specific to that character.
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