Dragon Age The Veilguard Criticism Thread (formerly Skepticism Thread) [Spoilers]

First off, I'm sure there's many that would automatically herald him as a "hater" now, just because he spoke negative about Veilguard, or is buying into the "vitriol" for views (both do it, not the point of this). And yes, this will be the direction of Mass Effect going forward, I'm afraid.

Second, we know you're serious fenalaslavellan - I believe it was you that said if they were just open about Taash from the start, most wouldn't have cared. Sure, the usual crowd would complain, but most wouldn't have given it a second though, like Krem. The new writing team is about as subtle as a brick to the face, it seems. Bringing up awareness about topics like this is never a bad thing, but like you said - if done correctly; which this wasn't.

I am utterly dismayed right now.I have watched both positive and negative reviews (not seeing truly "neutral" commentary as of yet), and my thoughts are all over the place. I won't deny that I was already on the fence due to the 3 companions/action style game play, and further tipped on said fence when we learned that only three choices from DAI/Trespasser were to be included. On top of the fact that I don't particularly care for the character design direction (my personal preference; no shade on anyone who likes the style decision BW made). But the RP aspect...where is it???? I just don't see it.

Regardless of the stance of the reviewer, I haven't seen anything in reference to the MC (Rook) that makes me like the player character. Add to that the rather wearisome companions, and how we are able to interact with them. This isn't me suggesting I need to "like" all the companions - it can be quite fun to have antagonistic relationships with companions or important NPC's - but I want to feel something. Currently (admittedly with out playing the game...obviously) I feel nothing for them. From all the content I have consumed, nothing and no one stands out. Heavy sigh.

I am a Solas fan, so I was convinced that at the very least, I would wish to purchase this game for that. If nothing else. But that doesn't mean for one second that I didn't care about all the things stated above. Even if it is unfair, my most beloved game since November of 2020 has been BG3 (I was an early adopter and bought the game during the first month of Early Access), so of course I might use that as a comparison. However I never expected Veilguard to copy that game (even though there are elements of DAO and of course, BG 1 and 2 in Larian's game). If they had just managed to make me care about Rook and the companions, then I could overlook a lot of what I personally consider "short-comings". As of right now, this is not the case.

I don't know. I think I am tired of caring. Once this game is released, I will watch some play through material on YT and see how all of it turned out. Now off to bed for this cranky old lady.

I am surprised that what I considered to be bad ME:A design decisions are being carried over to DA:V.

How much this will bother me in actual gameplay ... well, we'll see.

It is a glorious and triumphant return to form, comrade. Do not question. Long live dear leader Veilguard.

Here we have a Teagan-in-Trespasser tier cameo horrorshow, a blatant self-insert "character" and MEA's "choose how to agree/be a doormat" dialed to 11.

But what absolutely kills it for me is the insipid dialogue that must be aimed at Generation Tiktok.

And look around, there's plenty of people liking it. I'm getting "I am Legend" vibes here. Maybe people with our preferences in gaming are a dwindling breed...

I'm sad now.

Lots of comparison to BG3, as if being released post-BG3 would mean Bioware could have learned some lessons, which I reckon is by and large unrealistic. By the time BG3 was released to universal acclaim, Veilguard had been mostly set in stone already. The first gameplay leaks from Veilguard came out in early 2023, which means voice acting had been recorded well before that, and the screenplay had been mostly (if not completely) finalized as well. The bulk of the creation process probably took place between 2020-2022. Veilguard is not following BG3's footsteps, it is rather following Anthem's.

That said, Bioware did actually learn a few things from BG3 which were implemented in time, such as not featuring microtransactions, no DLCs, and a $60 price-tag.

More to the point, the world is going to hell in a handcart and they are planning a picnic? What is this, a team building exercise dreamed up by an invisible spirit of HR? This is why I can't take the game seriously any more. It is comedy gold.

The Taash vs Emmrich confrontation somehow got worse.



I just noticed the prologue to it. Calling Emmrich a skullf**ker. Apparently Taash is tonally closer to Ogrhen off all people. Ogrhen - the most beloved character in Origins /s


Also, the did you know DA4 is a return to form? Guess what! DA4 is a return to form! 

Oh yes. Each of these "please be our shrink/relationship counselor/common sense advisor" choices need some variant of "I'm sorry but I think that's none of my business."

Or a "Quit the tantrums, kids", depending on how your character is feeling.

Seriously?  That really is Isabella?     And I thought Dorian was bad.       Come on, this has to be a spoof of the real game just to fool people.   A sort of trick or treat for Halloween.  Then next week everyone who bought the spoof gets the real game.

I haven't stopped laughing since I came to this thread this morning (then looked at a few others).   Well you have to laugh or you'd cry. 

Haha, calling a necromancer skull fucker is actually funny. Too bad HR got involved, though.

I guess SofaJockey and the other mods will feel right at home, playing Veilguard.

Never forget people...this is where we started...smh