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Post by fenalaslavellan on Oct 31, 2024 13:53:22 GMT
Wow this is parody level lame. if you want to kill him off kill him off.. don't do this "oh no he's dead but wait he isn't ow wait he is" BIG story Spoiler, i mean HUGE Yep they went cliché again Rook can see dead people.
I mean I'm glad Varric as a character won't get dragged through anything else. Also his writer got fired.
But so many bad cliché, Varric deserved better than to end up sacrifice as a plot point for Solas character arc.
Varric HATED anders. HATED after what happened at Kirkwall. Solas caused the conclave, Varric only knew him a year...no way he would have been let me save my friend. Just to die to tell you "btw you can't redeem Solas Rook, I tried."
They pushed this narrative that Varric was Solas' best friend and vice-versa when in truth they was never that close. Certainly not closer than let's say, Cole.
It is weak, Varric died for nothing. And now we won't get anything on how Hawke would have reacted to this, because it is all pointless anyway.
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Post by LawBringerSR2 on Oct 31, 2024 13:53:42 GMT
From the reddit review: "Renegade Shepard with horns". I mean. Where to start? I know they're a big Dragon Age fan, but are they a big Mass Effect fan? Renegade Shepard without horns regularly intimidates, beats, extorts, and threatens civilians. Renegade Shepard tends to be pro-human to a Cerberus degree and everything that implies. Renegade Shepard is regularly dismissive, cruel and nasty to his companions when given the chance. Renegade Shepard with horns? He commits genocide twice before lunch. Kills his companion's child, hooks a civilian up to be tortured for a chance at intel of a defeated enemy, doesn't even deign to try to warn the Batarians of their relay destruction, and he shoots and kills the man or woman who was with him from day one. Not to mention he lies to a long time companion's face and even tries to bring up a loyalty to mission to get him to stand down. This is of course after he's been found out to have sabotaged a cure that could save the Krogan. He drives a companion to suicide because he just didn't care enough to put in the work to save them. He effectively kills the council to install his own people when given the opportunity. Those are some mighty big shoes to fill, Rook. Renegade Shepard is an unapologetically ruthless YottaChad feared by everyone who can feel fear. I will not accept that slander and heresy.
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Post by yarus on Oct 31, 2024 13:53:47 GMT
The Warden Commander (mustache man from the trailer) authorized Clarel's actions.
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Post by Reznore on Oct 31, 2024 13:53:48 GMT
oh my fucking god how bad can the writing get...please someone hold me, did they check that fuckery???? Lucanis spoiler quest I'm not joking, LORD, I wish I was. So there's talk Lucanis has been sold out by a Crow. His cousin acts suspicious. Lucanis goes kill his venatori nemesis. She's about to tell who is the betrayer. Cousin jumps from the roof and appear Venatori lady goes "Amat..." (amatus, my love !!!!!!) cousin kill her. Spite takes over and try to kill cousin (the only sane one is the demon) ROOK and LUCANIS SUSPECT NOTHING ABOUG ILLARIO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Edit: oh later they noticed Illario used blood magic to calm Spite and might be suspicious...YOU don't SAY
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Post by The Pluto Lounge on Oct 31, 2024 13:55:07 GMT
I keep refreshing this thread hoping to see someone say, "besides the Taash scenes and the weird companion arguing scenes, the writing is actually really really good"... I'm hopeless. It's a 40-80 hour game, a full-blown analysis from a non-media or non-creator could take a little while. The 'What did you do today' thread may eventually grant insight. bsn.boards.net/thread/20393/today-dragon-age-veilguard-spoilersHa, I get that. Mate, even if it was a 10 second scene and I'm like "that's dope", would probably be all the convincing I need.
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Post by yarus on Oct 31, 2024 13:58:46 GMT
oh my fucking god how bad can the writing get...please someone hold me, did they check that fuckery???? Lucanis spoiler quest I'm not joking, LORD, I wish I was. So there's talk Lucanis has been sold out by a Crow. His cousin acts suspicious. Lucanis goes kill his venatori nemesis. She's about to tell who is the betrayer. Cousin jumps from the roof and appear Venatori lady goes "Amat..." (amatus, my love !!!!!!) cousin kill her. Spite takes over and try to kill cousin (the only sane one is the demon) ROOK and LUCANIS SUSPECT NOTHING ABOUG ILLARIO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Edit: oh later they noticed Illario used blood magic to calm Spite and might be suspicious...YOU don't SAY At this point I wish there was a way to have Spite fully possess Lucanis, this is hilariously bad writing
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Post by andorvex on Oct 31, 2024 14:01:58 GMT
oh my fucking god how bad can the writing get...please someone hold me, did they check that fuckery???? Lucanis spoiler quest I'm not joking, LORD, I wish I was. So there's talk Lucanis has been sold out by a Crow. His cousin acts suspicious. Lucanis goes kill his venatori nemesis. She's about to tell who is the betrayer. Cousin jumps from the roof and appear Venatori lady goes "Amat..." (amatus, my love !!!!!!) cousin kill her. Spite takes over and try to kill cousin (the only sane one is the demon) ROOK and LUCANIS SUSPECT NOTHING ABOUG ILLARIO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Edit: oh later they noticed Illario used blood magic to calm Spite and might be suspicious...YOU don't SAY At this point I wish there was a way to have Spite fully possess Lucanis, this is hilariously bad writing what's the point of having a character in a dragon age game possessed if you don't get the choice to side with the possession? Big missed opportunity
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Post by yarus on Oct 31, 2024 14:05:03 GMT
IMPERIUM IMPERIUM (OR MAGESTERIUM) NOT "TEVINTER EMPIRE"
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Post by andorvex on Oct 31, 2024 14:06:11 GMT
IMPERIUM IMPERIUM NOT "TEVINTER EMPIRE" No use you care about DA lore much more than them lmao. (Joking... At least I hope so lol)
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Post by Reznore on Oct 31, 2024 14:09:44 GMT
Crisis averted I'm calmed down and happy, no seriously I REALLY am. Some good writing is there !!!! But yeah it's in the end. Big spoiler They did write Solas as a manipulative god of trickery and fuckery. He's an absolute piece of shit using folks, duh. And they aren't shying away from it.
An ubber hypocrite the likes the world has rarely seen.
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Post by andorvex on Oct 31, 2024 14:12:03 GMT
Crisis averted I'm calmed down and happy, no seriously I REALLY am. Some good writing is there !!!! But yeah it's in the end. Big spoiler They did write Solas as a manipulative god of trickery and fuckery. He's an absolute piece of shit using folks, duh. And they aren't shying away from it.
An ubber hypocrite the likes the world has rarely seen. That sounds like good news actually. I'm wondering what about the solamamcers? Is this gets addressed beyond the letter you find? It would be hilarious to me if he fucks over the inquisitor and not in a fun way
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Post by Reznore on Oct 31, 2024 14:13:01 GMT
Crisis averted I'm calmed down and happy, no seriously I REALLY am. Some good writing is there !!!! But yeah it's in the end. Big spoiler They did write Solas as a manipulative god of trickery and fuckery. He's an absolute piece of shit using folks, duh. And they aren't shying away from it.
An ubber hypocrite the likes the world has rarely seen. That sounds like good news actually. I'm wondering what about the solamamcers? Is this gets addressed beyond the letter you find? It would be hilarious to me if he fucks over the inquisitor and not in a fun way No idea but why would you want to be with that pathetic piece of utter shit, I have no clue.
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Post by andorvex on Oct 31, 2024 14:14:36 GMT
That sounds like good news actually. I'm wondering what about the solamamcers? Is this gets addressed beyond the letter you find? It would be hilarious to me if he fucks over the inquisitor and not in a fun way No idea but why would you want to be with that pathetic piece of utter shit, I have no clue.
I don't I just find the idea the "I can fix him" approach is gonna blow up in people's faces kinda hilarious
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Post by fenalaslavellan on Oct 31, 2024 14:15:44 GMT
Okay, now I'm extremely confused about Varric. If he was dead the whole time, why didn't Harding or Neve talk about it after they left his DEAD BODY behind in the ritual site? Who or what was Rook talking wihth during the whole game? This is really bizarre.
Harding, Varric's friend would show ZERO reaction to his death? lol
This Varric twist ruined this ending that everyone is praising, it makes no sense.
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Post by Envisionary on Oct 31, 2024 14:16:31 GMT
Crisis averted I'm calmed down and happy, no seriously I REALLY am. Some good writing is there !!!! But yeah it's in the end. Big spoiler They did write Solas as a manipulative god of trickery and fuckery. He's an absolute piece of shit using folks, duh. And they aren't shying away from it.
An ubber hypocrite the likes the world has rarely seen. That sounds like good news actually. I'm wondering what about the solamamcers? Is this gets addressed beyond the letter you find? It would be hilarious to me if he fucks over the inquisitor and not in a fun way The video I watched had an Inquisitor who romanced him but she did not show up in the final confrontation. She's lending off screen support but everything to do with how Solas is handled is just by Rook.
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Post by Reznore on Oct 31, 2024 14:17:01 GMT
No idea but why would you want to be with that pathetic piece of utter shit, I have no clue.
I don't I just find the idea the "I can fix him" approach is gonna blow up in people's faces kinda hilarious There's no fixing that. Not sure how the Solavellan will react.
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Post by andorvex on Oct 31, 2024 14:18:07 GMT
The more I hear about how awful most of the game is and how great is the final few hours, the more convinced I am that this game could and should have been just another Inquisition DLC and nothing significant would have been lost.
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Post by Reznore on Oct 31, 2024 14:19:40 GMT
Okay, now I'm extremely confused about Varric. If he was dead the whole time, why didn't Harding or Neve talk about it after they left his DEAD BODY behind in the ritual site? Who or what was Rook talking wihth during the whole game? This is really bizarre.
Harding, Varric's friend would show ZERO reaction to his death? lol
This Varric twist ruined this ending that everyone is praising, it makes no sense. BIg Big, Ginormous, not joking spoiler. I'd say it's pretty good writing. Big spoiler again. If you're playing it , don't click Solas used blood magic on Rook so Rook though Varric was still alive, and Solas could still manipulate Rook. I think he gives an excuse like "because we had a blight to fight together, desperate time, desperate measure I'm sure you understand".
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Post by yarus on Oct 31, 2024 14:20:30 GMT
The Inquisitor. Found em. 3:33-7:00
Jesus.
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Post by Kappa Neko on Oct 31, 2024 14:21:47 GMT
oh my fucking god how bad can the writing get...please someone hold me, did they check that fuckery???? Lucanis spoiler quest I'm not joking, LORD, I wish I was. So there's talk Lucanis has been sold out by a Crow. His cousin acts suspicious. Lucanis goes kill his venatori nemesis. She's about to tell who is the betrayer. Cousin jumps from the roof and appear Venatori lady goes "Amat..." (amatus, my love !!!!!!) cousin kill her. Spite takes over and try to kill cousin (the only sane one is the demon) ROOK and LUCANIS SUSPECT NOTHING ABOUG ILLARIO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Edit: oh later they noticed Illario used blood magic to calm Spite and might be suspicious...YOU don't SAY Stop tempting me to click, lol! I want to look at the train wreck too but I need to stay strong. I need to see the horror unfold organically.
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Post by andorvex on Oct 31, 2024 14:22:50 GMT
It's like two different teams wrote this game. What might be true on some level
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Post by yarus on Oct 31, 2024 14:23:41 GMT
Okay, now I'm extremely confused about Varric. If he was dead the whole time, why didn't Harding or Neve talk about it after they left his DEAD BODY behind in the ritual site? Who or what was Rook talking wihth during the whole game? This is really bizarre.
Harding, Varric's friend would show ZERO reaction to his death? lol
This Varric twist ruined this ending that everyone is praising, it makes no sense. As I said, Nicole from Dead Space.
As far as I've been able to piece together, from Harding and Neve's perspective, Rook is just acting scitzo talking to himself. I just saw a scene where Harding interrupts a "meeting" between Rook and "Varric", but she seems confused by Rook's behavior (from her perspective Rook's talking to themself) - and she never talks to "Varric" directly, only Rook
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Post by grallon on Oct 31, 2024 14:26:04 GMT
Allow me to connect the dots...
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Post by fenalaslavellan on Oct 31, 2024 14:26:35 GMT
That's better, thanks. And vindicating, Solas is finally being the hypocrite asshole I've always said he was.
Solavellans are going to do a LOT of coping to pretend he's redeemable after this. lol
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Post by andorvex on Oct 31, 2024 14:27:10 GMT
Allow me to connect the dots... What am I looking at here
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