Dragon Age The Veilguard Criticism Thread (formerly Skepticism Thread) [Spoilers]

Not trolling. I am being sincere. If we could write him off, off screen, like dying from dysentery, I would be really thankful. He is not antagonist material. I refuse to be further engaged in any plot that he is part of. I want to engage him as much as I like to engage Kai Leng. Solas was a mistake.

I really hope they don’t do that to the evanuris.

That they’re villains? I thins between Inquisition, Trespasser and Tevinter Nights, that ship is sailed. Although I don’t see a problem, necessarily, with them being villainous and not good entities. 

Same here.



I'd add that it was the same for ME and ME3 as well.

Considering what's happening in the RW, will there be any economy left to give us the means to even buy this game, when it does come out? I'm not even talking about the slowly simmering conflict between the US and China, which could heat up quite suddenly, in which case DA4 would become the least of our worries.


Still, with that caveat out of the way, the general impression I got from watching that Dev Diary clip is one of, as the thread title refers to, skepticism. We were shown many things that may end up on the cutting room floor. Also, while many locations are promising, I couldn't shake the feeling this all looked very... generic? I found the Dragon Age vibe, for lack of a better word, was very weak. Yes there were recognizable symbols but it felt like this could be any other triple A title. I don't know how to articulate it better. Perhaps it's because we're no longer in Southern Thedas?


Like I mentioned elsewhere, there was no hint of Fenris and I don't know about the rest of you, but I didn't see much evidence of the Qunari-Tevinter conflict either.


There's also the mystery surrounding the Inquisitor's fate in all this. It doesn't need to be front and center, but it does need to be significant, however short his part is.


Finally there's the 'live mode' thing, whose shape and extent remain nebulous at best. I want a story driven narrative, not a shooter.

You be lucky to get even that as instead, it might be simply aimless wondering around for 20 hours unlocking the unlocks within some very basic framework aka Anthem style with occasional cutscenes, live service and beloved random loot boxes. The scenery is expected to be good while all the rest is not guaranteed. I am more concerned about the lack of a reputable writer and unknown composer/cast. Or at least unknown to me. Hopefully, Luke can create at least some sort of reasonable combat if he's still with Bioware.

I wouldn’t say Weekes isn’t reputable, given his work on both ME and DA, and there are at least a couple veteran DA writers in the team.
If you mean Luke Barrett, he’s still working on DA, and sometimes writers here as well.

Oh, that's a low blow, and a low hanging fruit. Of course, they could still give us Leng-styled cutscene stupidity. Some Solas-related dialogues are already pretty railroad-y, but nowhere near as bad in my view as any interaction with TIM or Leng in ME2/3, with Shepard turning utterly braindead more often than not.

It'd be awfully strange if Andrastianism turned out to be more than nominally true. Nothing else in the setting has worked like that.

Oh. Can you elaborate?

I admit this line becomes more sketch the more I think about it. I mean some in the Tevinter imperium may be ignoring it...but:

-You have both the Antaam and the Ben Hasrath looking into him.
-You have the Inquisition.
-And various spy/ powerful organizations met in TVN nights to discuss the problem... and that was written by Patrick Weekes even!

It's not enough to make me raise my alarm bells but it is hmm worthy.