Dragon Age The Veilguard Criticism Thread (formerly Skepticism Thread) [Spoilers]

My concerns on this regard, present since the mentioning in the Scheier article of this issue, were resurfacing due to the multitude of characters shown in concept to be in ‘party’ mode, as if they were different players playing together. It might’ve been a bit far fetched, and Weekes’ words on the concept arts reassured me.

To be fair, from the blog after the original teaser, to the dev diary of two days ago, and a multitude of tweets, it does appear that something akin DAI is quite likely, compared to something like Anthem. And while I do agree on your concern on publishers, EA, even if they discontinue the success of a plethora of SP games recently, have TFO as a project entirely devoted to SP, and very, very successful as well.

Personally if i was to compare him to anyone in ME it would be TIM.

Solas makes me cringe. He's a terrible character. He seems to be suffering from severe mental issues, he's not as smart as he thinks he is, he has plot armour, is played up by the writers and I can't take him seriously. It's all too transparent.

Right now, I think my only real trepidation is what the state of the game will be on release day. Hopefully it'll have a smoother launch than their last 3 games.

I'd have to read the novel again, but I do recall outright hating some of the characters and hoping I'd never see them again, so I agree with you on that general sense. I would like them to not take anyone from any of the comics/novels, I think DAI set a bad precedent for that, and it shouldn't be continued.

I'm confused. If it suddenly had Inky as 100% protagonist, you would still not play it if it didn't have Vaea in it? What about no Inky but just an awesomely well written openly ace character? What are your real hard limits here?

OK, now you're just trolling hard and I can no longer take anything seriously that comes out of your mouth, dude!

Imo Kai Leng is the worst part of ME3. Yes, worse than the endings. I'm not trolling here myself btw. That was the most cringe I've ever experienced in a Bioware game. A paper thin stupid character. And you compare this idiot with barely any business to be in the game with a major fleshed out antagonist?! Seriously, dude, just stop it...

I didn't read the comics either. So whatever backstory there may be, you need to set up things properly within the game. I've never read any Dragon Age stuff either. So I had no idea about Cole but he made sense within the game and was an OK character.

I personally think Solas is the best antagonist of the franchise and also Mass Effect, but then again the bar wasn't that high, one might argue. Great villains aren't exactly Bioware's strength imo. I do think Solas is a genuinely well written character even if the whole conflicted tragic fallen hero theme is super cliche.

And I will say the same thing about Solas. Both are equally brain damaged, try hards that don't work.

But we did spend it with Solas. And while people here do like him, or hate him and even some communities similar to this may feel the same way, Solas was not a character that was well received, at least not as widely as Bioware wants to present him as. And media and some people can say it is so, but it isn't so.

Anyway, I'm just sticking around for the trainwreck, at this point.

I never said "Gary Stu". But sure. The problem is more that other people become retarded around him, to make the plot work. Which becomes transparent fast and just pointless.


But that's not exactly the issue. Solas does not come of as either smart, or conniving, or powerful. More like unconvincing. More so if you're not particularly interested in him, to begin with. So he's bad now. Whoop di doo.


Well, the Inquisitor was also one of the worst written protagonists I've ever had the displeasure of playing. So I couldn't exactly relate to his toiling. In fact, the gameplay was so simplistic and vapid that it didn't feel like a struggle at all.


The point is pretense. Putting up that curtain and keeping it there. When I can either pull the curtain away or see through it, the pretense falls apart. The moment Cassandra introduces Solas to us, I immediately knew something was wrong with him, because he should have been shot on sight. Well, arrowed on sight. But none of his actions or characterization after that made him interesting or compelling. The twist of him being a big villain works more on disbelief, as in "I can't believe they made this guy as the real bad guy", rather than blindsiding the player. And the worst thing is that now they are stuck with him. But he doesn't work.