Dragon Age The Veilguard Criticism Thread (formerly Skepticism Thread) [Spoilers]

Sabotage the lore? The lore wasn't supposed to be objective truth in the first place. Circle mages tell you what circle mages believe. In DA:O itself we learn that they're wrong about stuff.

Can't say I understand the complaint. Fantasy plots as a whole (if not almost all stories of any genre) hinge almost entirely on revelations and adjustments to the lore, and things that were previously impossible turning out to be possible after all.

Well Biotics and 'magic' are not at all the same thing. The whole point of 'magic' as a word is that it can't be strictly defined. It's a catch-all term for phenomena we can't explain scientifically.

Biotics have to have a clear function and limitations because Mass Effect is science-fiction and the player is supposed to accept them as the product of science and not a supernatural phenomenon. But I don't see how Dragon Age has "changed the definition" of magic from game to game. Both mechanically in gameplay and plot-wise, it works much the same way throughout the series, I have no idea what specifically you're referring to.

As for 'caring' or not, I don't see what that has to do with anything. The fact that you care is a sign of quality in the product? Is that the argument?

If there's one thing I can expect from Bioware, is that they'll tell the same old story over and over again.

Hell, even their antagonists are just copy and pastes of each other.

I wasn't supposed to not care. Bioware made me not care.


I don't even know anymore and it doesn't matter. Because it no longer interests me. Which is why it baffles me that Bioware would take such a route.

I'd actually love that. But the game is marketed with the tag line "Dread Wolf Rising", and the short teaser trailers showed artists working on the Solas model, so I'm pretty sure he will be central to the plot.

Being a nobody (and mostly remaining one during the game's story, because pretty much all protagonists start as nobodies before their inevitable meteoric rise to glory) would be a very welcome change, but truth be told, whether we are a nobody or a leader in charge of a powerful organization like the Inquisition makes very little gameplay difference - in the end, we will face the bad guy with three companions at our side. Gameplay wise, the Inquisition barely mattered in DAI, and they had to add the war table to at least give a threadbare illusion of being in charge of a powerful faction. All that manpower and resources, and the Inquisitor didn't even bring all companions to the final battle. The Inquisition was part of the story, but barely part of the gameplay, and so a total nobody would practically play in the same way - a team of four doing all jobs the story will provide.

But man, I'd love a story where our protagonist did lots of important stuff in the background, totally unrecognized by the world at large, only to watch someone else get all the credit before finding another caravan guard job to pay the rent.

that would be different if we really played robin hood and pushed the story forward in small tasks with lots of decisions. Joplin

DA4 might be "further along" in development than I think. I don't know what that means, as far as game content goes. Especially since they spent several months scrubbing the game off of MP elements. Add to that the lockdowns and I don't see how that can be possible, instead of further delayed, but that's what I hear. It may be that Bioware are full willing to burn this title that they've taken way too long to release and wasn't that popular to begin with. But that's just my skepticism talking.

Sorry for old post resurrection.
I'm quite the fangirl of Matt Rhodes work. He's Bioware's art director and he doesn't strike me as someone who chooses designs willy-nilly. At least that is the impression I get when looking at his comments from his own Tellurion comic. There is also a stream somewhere where I remember him saying, that the Inquisitor's helmet in the promo material wasn't designed by the art team. It came from the marketing department. Maybe they are playing it safe now and marketing gets more of a say now. Just some wild speculation.