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Post by FiendishlyInventive on Jul 18, 2023 12:58:36 GMT
If by edgelord you mean Critical Role esque cringeworthy options then yes, if you mean tone, as in dark and edgy stuff... I do not see that whatsoever myself, it is nowhere near on par with Origins in that particular regard.
I think if Larian's Baldur's Gate's successful it might serve as reminder in terms of what people like Bioware for in the first place, it's probably past the time to course correct for DreadWolf but it might not be for Mass Effect 4.
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Post by fairdragon on Jul 19, 2023 9:20:38 GMT
Dread wolf has not even come out and yet I think it will finish a distant second to the new baldness gate. Baldurs gate appears to be doing almost everything dao did but better in a shorter amount of time I'm not going to say its going to be GOTY or something as there are a lot of great games this year and even in the RPG genre there are multiple ways to make a great one. But it kind of feels like they are doing bioware better than bioware, admittedly with quite a bit more edge lord stuff. I agree that DAD doesn't feel like it's gonna be alright. But i disagree about Larian. Yes they doing some things that are in DAO. But for me their are so many things that are not for me. Most of the Companions and the story are not my style. For gameplay i better play Solasta or Pathfinder. And for the IU i need a helping tool because everything is confusing. So i don't want DAD to go that way. I would just be happy if it came out as a game that I can play and that I enjoy. but I am not hopeful that it will happen.
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Post by wickedcool on Jul 19, 2023 14:33:14 GMT
From what I’ve seen the companions are somewhat similar to what we have seen from dragon age in the past? Obviously no vampire but we did have blood magic/a spirit possessed dead person/werewolves etc
What do you mean by critical role cringe? I know what critical role is but help me tie it into this? Player choice or detailed shopping likely do in critical role
The games are not the same but baulders gate appears to be closer to dao than dai was. Dai was a huge departure from dao and most of da2. Bg3 looks beautiful and choices matter plus the combat is what was promised but not kept in dai
So I’m very skeptical as it’s been years since we had the infamous live preview and that was years before bg3 was possibly created
I booted up dai the other day and I had forgotten how painful it is to turn on and off the game. When you save and close the game you can literally do a lot in that time. They have a lot to prove
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Post by fairdragon on Jul 20, 2023 9:15:48 GMT
From what I’ve seen the companions are somewhat similar to what we have seen from dragon age in the past? Obviously no vampire but we did have blood magic/a spirit possessed dead person/werewolves etc The games are not the same but baulders gate appears to be closer to dao than dai was. Dai was a huge departure from dao and most of da2. Bg3 looks beautiful and choices matter plus the combat is what was promised but not kept in dai So I’m very skeptical as it’s been years since we had the infamous live preview and that was years before bg3 was possibly created I booted up dai the other day and I had forgotten how painful it is to turn on and off the game. When you save and close the game you can literally do a lot in that time. They have a lot to prove for better understanding: Most important for me are that i can play the game and have a good Fantasy Story.
Thats fits for this BioWare games: BG, DAO and DAI. Maybe NWN haven't played it.
This 3 i still play today.
So i am skeptical what gameplay will be in DAD and as Bioware like to adopt things. I'm afraid that they will go the BG3 rout. I will write to you privately to not go here to much into BG3.
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Post by smilesja on Jul 20, 2023 16:54:15 GMT
Dread wolf has not even come out and yet I think it will finish a distant second to the new baldness gate. Baldurs gate appears to be doing almost everything dao did but better in a shorter amount of time I'm not going to say its going to be GOTY or something as there are a lot of great games this year and even in the RPG genre there are multiple ways to make a great one. But it kind of feels like they are doing bioware better than bioware, admittedly with quite a bit more edge lord stuff. Ehhh as interested as I am in BG3, it has more appeal to CRPG fans specifically the type who thumb their noses at the "dumbed down" RPGs of today. If it ever comes out on consoles, I think I'm going to struggle in the combat like I did with DA: O and Pillars of Eternity.
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Post by githcheater on Jul 20, 2023 17:04:47 GMT
I'm not going to say its going to be GOTY or something as there are a lot of great games this year and even in the RPG genre there are multiple ways to make a great one. But it kind of feels like they are doing bioware better than bioware, admittedly with quite a bit more edge lord stuff. Ehhh as interested as I am in BG3, it has more appeal to CRPG fans specifically the type who thumb their noses at the "dumbed down" RPGs of today. If it ever comes out on consoles, I think I'm going to struggle in the combat like I did with DA: O and Pillars of Eternity. Is there dishonor in playing on casual or googling for help if combat seems too difficult? I played DAO on normal reasonably well over 10 years ago, but as I have gotten older, I have less patience with combat and play on casual ...
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Post by smilesja on Jul 20, 2023 17:13:53 GMT
Ehhh as interested as I am in BG3, it has more appeal to CRPG fans specifically the type who thumb their noses at the "dumbed down" RPGs of today. If it ever comes out on consoles, I think I'm going to struggle in the combat like I did with DA: O and Pillars of Eternity. Is there dishonor in playing on casual or googling for help if combat seems too difficult? I played DAO on normal reasonably well over 10 years ago, but as I have gotten older, I have less patience with combat and play on casual ... According to some old school RPG fans and PC gamers, apparently so.
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Post by ahglock on Jul 20, 2023 18:48:48 GMT
Is there dishonor in playing on casual or googling for help if combat seems too difficult? I played DAO on normal reasonably well over 10 years ago, but as I have gotten older, I have less patience with combat and play on casual ... According to some old school RPG fans and PC gamers, apparently so. Unless you are a twitch streamer the only person you have to prove yourself to is yourself. Play the narrative mode.
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Post by Sharable Horizon on Jul 20, 2023 18:53:06 GMT
According to some old school RPG fans and PC gamers, apparently so. Unless you are a twitch streamer the only person you have to prove yourself to is yourself. Play the narrative mode. Agreed 100%! You should absolutely set the difficulty to whatever makes the game fun for you. Who gives one wet, gusty fart what BiGdIcK_197646281 living perpetually online thinks.
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Post by FiendishlyInventive on Jul 25, 2023 17:58:45 GMT
With Mass Effect Legendary Edition still being broken on console- people have achievements just not unlocking, melee combos do not exist anymore, broken lighting and broken renegade eyes... I could go on.
I worry about the release state of DreadWolf and especially any post launch support.
I also thought and think Inquisition remains massively overrated and do not understand the appeal it has honestly, to me it is no better than DAII, so I am even wary of trusting the initial reception.
Anyway that sums up my thoughts.
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Post by General Mahad on Jul 31, 2023 2:26:44 GMT
Inquisition was made great by its graphics, main missions and score. Also the Trespasser DLC was excellent epilogue that showed the logical course of events of what will happen to a powerful organization in decline like the Inquisition while also setting the stage for Solas in DAD. Without these factors, DAI it would have been like DAII: a somewhat mediocre game held up by its characters and some choices. Personally, Dragon Age never really shined in its combat; It was a means to an end. That being said, I will take DA:0 slow and automatic battles over DA2’s anime moves and meat spawns.
Edit: Unpopular opinion, but the open world of DA:I was appreciated, especially the re-spawning enemies (yes that includes the bears on the Storm Coast and Redcliffe)
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Post by General Mahad on Aug 3, 2023 4:37:29 GMT
Gamerant is trash, but they made a good point with Solas. Dragon Age: Dreadwolf Has a Lot Riding on One Character gamerant.com/dragon-age-dreadwolf-solas-controversial-beloved-character/Why is this such a problem in Dragon Age where the big bad is boring compared to "minor" villains? Loghain is superior to the Archdemon, the Architect is superior to the Mother, the Arishok is superior to Meredith, Florianne is superior to Corypheus, hell even Qunari loyal Iron Bull is superior to both the Viddasala and Solas in the DLC. I'm concerned that Dreadwolf will have have the same fate if Solas is the big bad. A bigger dire situation would be the Evanuris being forgettable too along with the Crimson Knight and whoever is going to be the next evil Magister.
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Post by gervaise21 on Aug 3, 2023 8:07:46 GMT
I'm concerned that Dreadwolf will have have the same fate if Solas is the big bad. A bigger dire situation would be the Evanuris being forgettable too along with the Crimson Knight and whoever is going to be the next evil Magister. Whilst the title of the next game seems very on the nose when it comes to the main antagonist, I think it is going to prove deceptive and the real danger is yet to be revealed. Or, as you rightly point out, in other games there has always been a secondary antagonist (or more than one) who is actually more interesting and challenging than the final boss. At the moment my money is on the Executors, or their representative, filling that role, which will likely be linked to those strange pools highlighted in Horror of Hormack. The Executors are apparently opposed to Solas and he has warned against them but I didn't really need his advice on that one and it does point to them being an enigma in the fight against him. Unless the Devs have been lying to us, the Crimson Knight and everything connected with Absolution is not going to have a bearing on the next game, although I suppose it is possible they might come into play in any subsequent title. So far as any evil Magisters are concerned, I assume they will be linked to the Venatori. I must admit I was surprised and disappointed that they are still a prominent faction after the fall of Corypheus. I would rather have the Black Divine as an antagonist as from what I know of his history and Dorian said about him, he could be interesting. Mind you, I suppose that could equally apply should he be an ally. My main concern is that what appears in the next game may not be as interesting as some of the plots that have already been covered in associated media. Also, that certain factions, like the Qun and the Crows, may be altered to be barely recognisable from our previous experience of them. In addition, I hope they don't overuse Varric in the narrative but the signs there are not good.
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Post by FiendishlyInventive on Aug 3, 2023 8:32:20 GMT
As a Dragon Age fan of nearly fifteen years I hope Solas has as minimised a role in DreadWolf as narratively possible, I never found him particularly compelling, I find the title deeply worrisome.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Aug 3, 2023 8:49:16 GMT
As a Dragon Age fan of nearly fifteen years I hope Solas has as minimised a role in DreadWolf as narratively possible, I never found him particularly compelling, I find the title deeply worrisome. ”The Dread Wolf? Hmm…oh yeah! The Inquisition dealt with him a while back. He’s no longer a problem, just some remnants of his followers.” - Random Innkeeper in an ideal world.
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Post by General Mahad on Aug 3, 2023 17:33:39 GMT
As a Dragon Age fan of nearly fifteen years I hope Solas has as minimised a role in DreadWolf as narratively possible, I never found him particularly compelling, I find the title deeply worrisome. They can’t, all marketing and ads have been about him for almost five years. Speaking of marketing, the lack of anything worth mentioning on that front is troublesome. Where is the cinematic trailers that get everyone hyped up like Scared Ashes or Destiny?
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Post by themikefest on Aug 3, 2023 18:08:18 GMT
As a Dragon Age fan of nearly fifteen years I hope Solas has as minimised a role in DreadWolf as narratively possible, I never found him particularly compelling, I find the title deeply worrisome. I believe he will have a small role. For me, I would have at the beginning of the game showing the elf in an isolated area doing his hocus pocus stuff. It backfires causing the release of the evanuris for the main character to deal with. Towards the end of the game, the main character learns one of the side effects from the deadwolf's nonsense was trapping himself in the fade. I don't care about the character, but he is one reason I will get the game. That's because I'm curious how he will be dealt with.
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Post by wickedcool on Aug 21, 2023 14:10:16 GMT
Bg3 has a beyond impressive is 50/50 game of year and is surpassing everyone’s expectations. It’s everything dragon age should be except the option for dai fast combat
There’s isn’t a single thing dai or any of the dragon age titles does better. The problem is that they should be better based on the size of the studio. I’ve only played Bg3 for 6-8 hours and it truly feels like the real successor to origins
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Post by Guardian on Aug 21, 2023 15:27:04 GMT
I am concerned that DA: Dreadwolf will crash and burn. The sudden shift from single player, to "Live service", back to single player I think is too late of a course correction for the game. As far as the franchise goes, I felt it lost a lot of what made Dragon Age "special" after Origins. It's why I never played anything but a warrior past Origins - I didn't care for how they did "talent trees" and "specializations" anymore.
Dragon Age has taken a nosedive off a cliff since Inquisition, really. DA 2 was a slight departure for certain, in overall quality. But Inquisition I have replayed less than Mass Effect 1 (which total playthroughs are a whopping 6 runs). Origins was the gold standard, and while I still enjoyed DA 2, it still left me feeling a bit meh. Inquisition's cast is rather bland and boring (outside of Varric, who I question the point of even being there in the first place). My other concern is that if Dreadwolf does bad, EA might just pull the plug on Bioware as a whole. Especially since Gamble left (which, is a good thing), it might be a signal that this is "ride-or-die" for Bioware.
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Post by General Mahad on Aug 24, 2023 3:47:41 GMT
The layoffs have confirmed my suspicion: BioWare is done.
Dreadwolf will need to be a mega blockbuster in order to prevent the EA vultures from tearing it apart even more and I don't see that happening with the loss of experienced staff and QA testers. Plus, BG3 has set a new standard for games and since Dragon Age is BG's spiritual successor it means that Dreadwolf will be compared with BG3 (fairly and unfairly) and that will reflect on reviews which will reflect upon sales. BioWare is simply trapped between EA and high expectations.
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Post by Gileadan on Aug 24, 2023 6:41:30 GMT
After the ridiculously corpo-speak-sugar-coated lay off news I'm getting vibes of a famous airship explosion.
Can't help but feel that this was it, last guy turns off the light. Anything other than another Anthem-tier dead on arrival disaster would surprise me at this point.
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Post by FiendishlyInventive on Aug 24, 2023 12:15:40 GMT
I was hoping Larian's Baldur's Gate might light a fire under them, but it appears they have caught fire instead.
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Post by heinomk3 on Aug 27, 2023 22:23:21 GMT
I honestly thought that the recent rumours spreading about the panic over Baldur's Gate 3 at Bioware were silly, but apparently they were true after all. Quite astounding turn of events in regard to their severity, but not overly surprising given the trajectory Bioware has been over the last years.
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Post by Polka Dot on Aug 30, 2023 16:09:52 GMT
Another reason for this prediction is this is likely the last Dragon Age game that BioWare will make and they want to go out with some fanfare. FTFY. I'm struggling to figure out who they're even making this game for at this point. It's been a decade since they left DA fans on a cliffhanger. Anyone who cared about the company, the world, the characters, or what would happen next has been through the mill in the intervening years (and I just noticed I used the past tense of care up there). All the reboots - seeing the traditional SP game supposedly converted to something called "game-as-a-service" and back again, and all of the emotions, discussion, dashed hopes that go along with all of the changes takes a toll. Meanwhile, we've been watching key people who created the content we loved leave the company one by one, and now they lay off a bunch more of them. It's my understanding that there is typically about a 50% turnover from one title to the next in a game series (about half of the people who buy one game of a series also buy the next), but that's when they are released within a reasonable time frame. After 10 years and all the reboots, they'll be lucky to capture 10% of DAI's audience imho. And given the reputational hits they took with Anthem and MEA... it's not looking good.
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