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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jun 8, 2024 18:11:44 GMT
Seven companions in total and only two companions in the field. Why? This feels rushed as hell. Eh, DAO and DA2 had that many companions not counting DLC. And all Mass Effect games besides 2 had 6 not counting DLC.
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Post by General Mahad on Jun 8, 2024 18:25:08 GMT
Seven companions in total and only two companions in the field. Why? This feels rushed as hell. Eh, DAO and DA2 had that many companions not counting DLC. And all Mass Effect games besides 2 had 6 not counting DLC. Without DLC, Origins had nine, DA2 had eight, and Inquisition had nine. This is potentially BioWare’s last hurrah and they have the lowest number of companions in a mainline Dragon Age game. They also allowed you to go out with a party of three.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jun 8, 2024 18:50:57 GMT
Eh, DAO and DA2 had that many companions not counting DLC. And all Mass Effect games besides 2 had 6 not counting DLC. Without DLC, Origins had nine, DA2 had eight, and Inquisition had nine. This is potentially BioWare’s last hurrah and they have the lowest number of companions in a mainline Dragon Age game. They also allowed you to go out with a party of three. I don’t count Dog as a companion and you can only have Alistair or Loghain, so that’s seven. Same with Bethany or Carver making it so you’d only have seven, but after Act 1 you only have six.
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Post by General Mahad on Jun 8, 2024 19:12:10 GMT
Without DLC, Origins had nine, DA2 had eight, and Inquisition had nine. This is potentially BioWare’s last hurrah and they have the lowest number of companions in a mainline Dragon Age game. They also allowed you to go out with a party of three. I don’t count Dog as a companion and you can only have Alistair or Loghain, so that’s seven. Same with Bethany or Carver making it so you’d only have seven, but after Act 1 you only have six. Regardless if they are an alternative or a dog, they are still a companion and as such included in total companions. How do you know that there won’t be alternative companions or companions that you can lock yourself out of in Veilguard?
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jun 8, 2024 19:16:51 GMT
I don’t count Dog as a companion and you can only have Alistair or Loghain, so that’s seven. Same with Bethany or Carver making it so you’d only have seven, but after Act 1 you only have six. Regardless if they are an alternative or a dog, they are still a companion and as such included in total companions. How do you know that there won’t be alternative companions or companions that you can lock yourself out of in Veilguard? We don’t know, and if that’s the case then this issue becomes a lot more prominent. But for now, it’s not much of an issue since most BioWare games have had this many companions and their writing was great.
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Post by General Mahad on Jun 8, 2024 19:31:13 GMT
Regardless if they are an alternative or a dog, they are still a companion and as such included in total companions. How do you know that there won’t be alternative companions or companions that you can lock yourself out of in Veilguard? We don’t know, and if that’s the case then this issue becomes a lot more prominent. But for now, it’s not much of an issue since most BioWare games have had this many companions and their writing was great. The problem is theres a higher expectation of writing quality for characters and I’m not sure they are capable of delivering that especially with how they fumbled Andromeda plus the layoffs. Right now, I’m seeing Andromeda 2.0 forming and I’m hoping that’s just my cynical bias showing.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jun 8, 2024 20:06:40 GMT
We don’t know, and if that’s the case then this issue becomes a lot more prominent. But for now, it’s not much of an issue since most BioWare games have had this many companions and their writing was great. The problem is theres a higher expectation of writing quality for characters and I’m not sure they are capable of delivering that especially with how they fumbled Andromeda plus the layoffs. Right now, I’m seeing Andromeda 2.0 forming and I’m hoping that’s just my cynical bias showing. I would love if it is like Andromeda. I’m worried it is going to be a lot worse, doing a lot of things I don’t want done.
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Post by grallon on Jun 9, 2024 5:42:26 GMT
Quite frankly, I was no longer expecting 'Dreadwolf'. It turns out I was right; it's no longer 'Dreadwolf' but some last minute something else. What's more, it's apparently being directed by a DEI Zee-Zer thing. Bottom line, it looks like we'll never get to see the end of the story, since this will most likely flop and drag Bioware down with it. I'd be more than a little pissed off, after 10 years of waiting, if I could muster anything other than a tired shrug.
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Post by flyingovertrout on Jun 9, 2024 15:18:16 GMT
What's more, it's apparently being directed by a DEI Zee-Zer thing. Chad Bioware keeps culling trash from the fandom. Love to see it, folks.
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Post by General Mahad on Jun 9, 2024 17:54:11 GMT
This looks like a cartoon. What happened to dark fantasy and the feeling of foreboding doom?
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Post by yogsothoth on Jun 9, 2024 17:59:02 GMT
I don't buy this group of characters is taking down gods. Harding being a companion is extremely disappointing and extremely not surprising.
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Post by lennybusker on Jun 9, 2024 18:59:04 GMT
Holy Christ this look pathetic and forgettable. Opencritic predictions? I'd be shocked if it breaks 85.
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Post by bizantura on Jun 9, 2024 19:39:14 GMT
I wish Bioware the best, but this not for me. Will have to make up an ending myself to the storyline, and be content with what we got. Won't be a Mass Effect either, I suppose, when this "whatever this is" fails!
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Post by General Mahad on Jun 9, 2024 20:59:30 GMT
Compare this trailer with Sacred Ashes and Destiny:
Look how well these cinematic trailers hold up after more than a decade. The tone, the voice acting and the restraint of the art direction/action/cuts make these last.
Meanwhile Veilfirewalkwithmeguard is just another color vomit moba looking game that has everything cranked up to 11.
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Post by DarkSnow on Jun 9, 2024 22:36:48 GMT
I just came out of forum retirement after watching the new video. Big nope.
Not much faith left for the gameplay reveal.
If I play this game I'm definitely going to help Solas bring an end to Thedas.
Still hope something comes along to make me change my mind.
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Post by abedsbrother on Jun 9, 2024 22:42:57 GMT
After seeing that trailer, I'm rooting for Solas.
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Post by Serza on Jun 9, 2024 22:48:42 GMT
I'm here, punch my ticket, I'm joining the party...
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Post by NotN7 on Jun 9, 2024 23:14:07 GMT
Heck with you Debbie downers I have been waiting for 10 years hell yes, I'm going to buy and play it, the trailer was interesting, but it does not define the game Its all info. oh, and sorry your choices for Companions didn't make it into the game. at least one of mine did.
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Post by abedsbrother on Jun 9, 2024 23:19:03 GMT
Heck with you Debbie downers I have been waiting for 10 years hell yes, I'm going to buy and play it, the trailer was interesting, but it does not define the game Its all info. oh, and sorry your choices for Companions didn't make it into the game. at least one of mine did. heck with the people excited about the game, this is the skepticism thread
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Post by General Mahad on Jun 10, 2024 0:02:11 GMT
Heck with you Debbie downers I have been waiting for 10 years hell yes, I'm going to buy and play it, the trailer was interesting, but it does not define the game Its all info. oh, and sorry your choices for Companions didn't make it into the game. at least one of mine did. It’s been nonstop red flags on the road to release. Hell, the road is made from red flags at this point.
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Post by The Elder King on Jun 10, 2024 0:07:08 GMT
I think being concerned is fair, and even if, as it seems possible, it ends up that the trailer was made to attract a different crowd, it was likely not a great move given Bioware's current situation. We'll know more soon enough, in any case. They did release a in-game screenshot which looks good, to me.
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Post by General Mahad on Jun 10, 2024 0:17:43 GMT
I think being concerned is fair, and even if, as it seems possible, it ends up that the trailer was made to attract a different crowd, it was likely not a great move given Bioware's current situation. We'll know more soon enough, in any case. They did release a in-game screenshot which looks good, to me. Look at that floating island and neon blue sign, that was my first red flag. Minrathous is suppose to be Lothric Castle not Fantasy Night City.
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Post by The Elder King on Jun 10, 2024 0:27:05 GMT
I think being concerned is fair, and even if, as it seems possible, it ends up that the trailer was made to attract a different crowd, it was likely not a great move given Bioware's current situation. We'll know more soon enough, in any case. They did release a in-game screenshot which looks good, to me. Look at that floating island and neon blue sign, that was my first red flag. Minrathous is suppose to be Lothric Castle not Fantasy Night City. Minrathous might not be as we thought it'd be, but I was referring more to what they shown today in terms of tone and artstyle.
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Post by General Mahad on Jun 10, 2024 0:43:50 GMT
Look at that floating island and neon blue sign, that was my first red flag. Minrathous is suppose to be Lothric Castle not Fantasy Night City. Minrathous might not be as we thought it'd be, but I was referring more to what they shown today in terms of tone and artstyle. Fair enough. But that’s the issue, the floating island and neon sign are so absurd that is takes away from the mysterious, unwelcome gothic feeling. It feels so…cartoony. Now if this was the fade or Solas time whatever, but this is the waking world. If they remove the floating island and neon sign, it would improve the atmosphere so much more and make it feel so much more grounded.
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Post by 10k on Jun 10, 2024 1:28:43 GMT
OMG look how quirky our rag tag group is! They are going to save the day! LOL after playing the dark urge in BG3, there's no way I will enjoy this. I can see the millennial writing on the wall, it's so cringe. I can't stand it anymore. Like I said in a previous thread about a week ago. Origins was the true dark fantasy in this entire series, and we're not getting that tone back. It's current day and this is what modern audiences want. It's not for me.
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