Dragon Age The Veilguard Criticism Thread (formerly Skepticism Thread) [Spoilers]

Don't know if they’ll do a demo or early access thing, but we’ll probably get a few game presentations like the one on Tuesday that will actually show the game.

I saw a pretty funny Youtube comment that I want to share:

Not a fan at all of the tone. Way too jokey for my liking.
Also was desperately hoping for not another chosen one tale.

I really liked DAI at the time, briefly even consider it the best in the series because it's my favorite group of companions and the game was SO pretty. Yes, some claymation going on with faces. Nothing about DAI looked realistic. But I'm the kind of person who likes colorful. That is not the problem. DAO looked ugly and didn't have a compelling art style at all. But it was the storytelling that was great, the world building.

Now Veilguard is completely different because the art system looks so generic mobile game over the top. As has been mentioned, Minrathous looks like a cyberpunk city with all those neon lights. I would have much preferred a gothic look myself. Just suits the franchise better.
Even the spells and weapons and effects. Like that neon glowing bow, just godawful to me. So garish.

These days almost all AAA games look the same. Every AAA shooter has the same boring gun sound effects too. I honestly can't tell these games apart anymore. Entertainment fast food and sadly DAV looks the same way. Made for 14 year old ADHD kids who only care about flashy explosions and funny one liners.

(Off topic, sort of: one third (!) of all school kids cannot read properly anymore in the US. I listened to a podcast on how bad it is. They memorize the sound of certain words but they cannot actually read anymore. And if there are new words they've never SEEN they can't understand them. What is happening??? So these kids get frustrated and will never read a book. And I wonder how they are supposed to learn a job if they can't read instructions. I was shocked.
I guess in the future mainstream games will ditch written words altogether and just rely on pictures or something. That is the dystopian backdrop for modern society. And the media will have to cater to those illiterate kids to make money. And that is changing a lot of things, I think. This goes far beyond any woke complaints imo. This is fucked.)

I do love me some BioWare banter. They were GREAT with humor. But until MEA it was tastefully placed and not blurted out in the most jarring moments by everyone at all times. For me this is MEA being completely tone deaf all over again.

Either the marketing department is made up of morons, EA pushed a focus group trailer on BioWare and they know it's awful. Or this is sadly exactly what we can expect from the rest of the game.

My expectations for the gameplay stuff tomorrow is it will confirm that neither combat nor storytelling is anything I want to play. The bits of dialogue we got for MEA before release was a red flag and sadly very representative of the entire game.
So I don't think gameplay will change my mind.

I feel like BioWare has the opposite problem of Bethesda. While Bethesda feels like a dinosaur stuck in the past making the same games they did 20 years ago, only now that's not good enough anymore. BioWare seems to either get pushed to chase the next cool thing that kids play or they are made by kids themselves now who genuinely think this shit is good. And those kids and their ideas outnumber the few veterans who somehow haven't quit yet like Weekes.

We've know for years that BioWare is a toxic woke work environment so this trailer is the kind of awful I was expecting tbh.

Saying this as a tired 40 years old millennial. It's gen Z who are now getting hired and producing games and they like WILDLY different things apparently. The good news is there are plenty of games being made that appeal to me. So I'm not too old for gaming just too old for whatever the hell that trailer is supposed to be. BioWare/EA seems dead set on driving the last of their loyal aging fans away. Definitely working. The reception of this trailer seems to be 90% negative on various social media I skimmed, even the usually very positive DA subreddit.

This is honestly quite entertaining for somebody like me who gave up on BioWare years ago. I'm just here for the entertainment value. How to kill any hype in 2min. Impressive work!

It was the game trailer equivalent of two uniformed guys with sad faces ringing your doorbell.

I read the comments under the official trailer on their youtube channel (29K likes to 138 dislikes oof), but everyone kept talking about the art style. I personally think the art style is fine. I don't have a problem with it. It's the obvious tone, that was in Andromeda, Anthem, and Inquisition. And if people want to cope and think that gameplay showing tomorrow will change that they're lying to themselves. Why show a trailer that is over the top and quirky, if the rest of the game won't be like that? I mean look at Origins and DA2 trailers, they conveyed their game tone perfectly. I have to say I'm not surprised one bit.

I don't know about the game, I will wait for some reviews and gameplay before making a decision to buy or not. I think, DAI was overall not a pretty engaging game and it is the one, I replayed the least. I would hope, it will get better again, but I'm sceptic with the old devs not there anymore.
I don't like the artstyle from the new trailer, it looks pretty cartoons. I do like, that Harding is a companion though.

The Trailer really has this Andromeda Vibes and i don´t like it.

Maybe I'm too slow, but would someone care to explain which part of the trailer makes it "look like Fornite" and "not like Dragon Age"? I mean actually break it down.

All I saw was a simple showcase of the characters, a bit of fighting to tell us what their abilities are and... that was it.

Perhaps what is freaking people out is simply aesthetics? Did the cinematic look too bright and flashy? Or was it the character designs?/
Regardless, I would rather judge the game based on its content than the way it was presented.

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