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Post by Sifr on Dec 5, 2020 18:35:40 GMT
What happened to Leggy? Could still be waiting in the wings. After all even if the characters in the new artwork are companions that makes only three, one from each class, two male and one female. So to balance things you'd need at least one female mage, a male rogue and a female warrior. Who cares about balance, did you see those legs?
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Post by gervaise21 on Dec 5, 2020 18:37:04 GMT
I like calling the veilfire head Bael. At least it sounds like a name. He was nicknamed Skellington on some of the early pages of this post. How about Calidus? That means glowing in Latin and whilst he probably comes from the Grand Necropolis in Nevarra the Mortalitasi were founded by a Tevinter mage so probably use Tevene a fair bit.
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Post by gervaise21 on Dec 5, 2020 18:39:34 GMT
Who cares about balance, did you see those legs? To be honest I thought she would fit the slot for the female mage. Leggy's outfit made me think of a mage. In DAI we had two male mages and one female, so this time round how about one male and two female?
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 5, 2020 19:06:21 GMT
I think not wearing a helmet in space is ridiculous and only happened due to the rush that was Andromeda I think wearing a bikini suit in a cold area that literally has a mechanic where it's so cold you'll die is stupid and all companions should have gotten real all terrain suits like the protagonist. Can't biotics create barriers capable of maintaining atmospheric pressure in a vaccuum though? The characters with outfits that are exposed to space seem to always be biotics, so maybe that's meant to be the handwave?
Not that I don't agree that it's ridiculous to have people not wearing a hardsuit or helmet in space or other extreme environments.
No, according to the lore biotics and kinetic barriers are not able to protect people from environmental or slow moving things.
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Post by Absafraginlootly on Dec 5, 2020 22:59:44 GMT
She like Morrigan, Leliana and Vivienne merged together to become Zorro! She looks amazing but how exactly does she see where she is going? There are no obvious eye slits. An Orlesian courtier might be able to get away with just looking at her feet but this lady is doing sword play and shooting arrows. Maybe she's blind and doesn't need her eyes because a spirit helps her see... Or maybe it's concept art and her final mask has eye holes. XD
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Post by river82 on Dec 6, 2020 0:03:27 GMT
Maybe she's blind and doesn't need her eyes because a spirit helps her see... Ooooooh, I like this!
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Post by witchcocktor on Dec 6, 2020 0:38:13 GMT
Maybe it's just a cool visor helmet thing that makes people think '' wow, she is so badass that she uses a visor to block her eyesight because otherwise it wouldn't be a fair match for anyone she is fighting wow what a badass lady wow wow ''
Doesn't it get tiring constantly needing everything to be so realistic lmao.
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Post by Absafraginlootly on Dec 6, 2020 2:37:11 GMT
I wonder if any of the characters in the 4 short stories we just got will be companions? Viper the card dealer with magical suppression abilities thought by the mages of Minrathous to be just a tale. Tarquin, his ally, a Tevinter Templar who exposes Venatori collaborators. Strife the grey haired ex City, now Dalish, elf investigating the Arlathan forest. Seemingly even more dangerous then when he spied on the qunari in TN. Irelin, the shape shifting Dalish elf of clan Morlyn, ally of Strife. Evka a grey warden taking her new recruit back to weisshaupt in TN when they stop to rescue a village from werewolves, in this story we see who inspired her to become a warden as she promises "I've got the next ones." After Warden Lawrence saves her. Lucanis Dellamorte"the demon" grandson of the First Talon of the Crows. A reckless assassin with a sense of justice whose been hunting Venatori. The question is, is he really dead? Illario Dellamorte, Lucanis' cousin, more interested in getting the job done quickly and looking good. Unlike his cousin Illario wants to become Talon, but worries their grandmother favours Lucanis. Viago and Teia are both Talons, and amoung the few surviving Talons after the qunari got one of them to turn on the others and like half of them were assassinated. So I doubt they're gonna be leaving Antiva to join a ragtag squad any time soon. The Talons are probably all busy co ordinating with the monarchy to try and secure Antiva against the qunari. (And promoting new talons) If Lucanis is dead ( probably as a result of his reckless and not thought out plans or the many bad guys he pisses off) then i could see illario going after those responsible which could result in him becoming a companion. Or him sending another crow in his stead if he were to achieve Talon status. I don't think Caterina Dellamorte is retiring any time soon but she's old. If Lucanis is alive and faked his death, (whether because he didn't want to be a crow anymore, to take himself out of the running for Talon status, or to avoid his enemies and/or allow him to approach his objective without them knowing be was coming) I could see him being a companion himself. This was the line that made me wonder "The rant was approaching the end. He’d repeated this speech like an actor rehearsing for a particularly infuriating play for hours downstairs as his composure crumbled"Viper is so creepy and wierd Tarquin: We’re the Tevinter you forgot. What do we want? Viper/the dealer:*Puts up ominous hood ominously* Everything Evka's cool, i already liked her in Hunger, however if that male warden dialogue we heard in the behind the scenes video was a companion then we're probably not getting two warden companions.
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Post by gervaise21 on Dec 6, 2020 9:13:42 GMT
Doesn't it get tiring constantly needing everything to be so realistic lmao. It also does get a bit tiring when you think you know what's possible and then they spring something on you and just hand wave away the inconsistencies with "it's ... magic, deal with it" or "it's always been possible you just didn't know it". The problem I have with the Crow lady, even if her mast is genuinely transparent, is that good assassins should be inconspicuous and blend in so they can get close to their mark. I always thought the crow mask they gave Zevran in WoT2, which seems replicated in some of the concept art, was somewhat strange if he is meant to be an assassin. However, they did seem to be going for a distinctive Crow look now, what with the armour that seems connected with them and stand out masks rather than some simple face covering. May be that's what they use in Antiva where Crows are so common it doesn't help in trying to blend in if you keep things simple. The mask itself could be useful in hiding the eyes so they give nothing away of your emotion. After all that is why masks are used in the Orlesian Court and not betraying your emotion could be even more useful when confronting your enemies in combat so they have no idea what your next move might be.
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Post by Buckeldemon on Dec 6, 2020 11:33:15 GMT
Doesn't it get tiring constantly needing everything to be so realistic lmao. It also does get a bit tiring when you think you know what's possible and then they spring something on you and just hand wave away the inconsistencies with "it's ... magic, deal with it" or "it's always been possible you just didn't know it". Forshadowing is for noobs.
On another note... the Crows are already have "plot device", "Awesome Assassin Powers™" and whatever a medieval mafia can do available to them. I would not want their cronies to be all spirit warriors rogues as well. Gotta reverse the trend of DA giving tons of nice magical tools to non-mages without consequence while mages have their spellset halved every game and are otherwise just there to be either harrassed by andrastians or cooking up apolcalyptic schemes.
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Post by ClarkKent on Dec 6, 2020 12:00:38 GMT
The crow mask could easily be ceremonial anyway.
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Post by Sifr on Dec 9, 2020 9:55:41 GMT
To be honest I thought she would fit the slot for the female mage. Leggy's outfit made me think of a mage. In DAI we had two male mages and one female, so this time round how about one male and two female? That was my initial thought too, that Leggy looks like she could easily be another Witch of the Wilds in that outfit.
No, according to the lore biotics and kinetic barriers are not able to protect people from environmental or slow moving things. Kinetic barriers can hold in atmosphere though, as we see ships routinely pass through them when exiting docking bays (such as those on the Citadel) that are open to space. We've also seen them patching hull breeches or acting as emergency forcefields, such as at the start of ME2 when the SR-1's cockpit has a barrier around it to protect Joker from the rest of the decompressed CIC, as well as in the ending cutscene, where Shepard stops at a damaged part of the hull being supported by barriers and looks out at open space.
Maybe she's blind and doesn't need her eyes because a spirit helps her see... Maybe she's using some kind of (blood) magic to see through the eyes of her crows?
I have always loved the idea of seeing a "Bloodraven" type character, a blind hedge-mage who compensates for their lack of sight by "warging" into nearby animals to see or scout the area around them.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 9, 2020 11:12:08 GMT
No, according to the lore biotics and kinetic barriers are not able to protect people from environmental or slow moving things. Kinetic barriers can hold in atmosphere though, as we see ships routinely pass through them when exiting docking bays (such as those on the Citadel) that are open to space. We've also seen them patching hull breeches or acting as emergency forcefields, such as at the start of ME2 when the SR-1's cockpit has a barrier around it to protect Joker from the rest of the decompressed CIC, as well as in the ending cutscene, where Shepard stops at a damaged part of the hull being supported by barriers and looks out at open space. Those examples involve having spaceship or space station levels of power sources, something people don’t have even with armor. Also it’s not kinetic barriers even holding the atmosphere in, but mass effect fields holding a compound that acts like a membrane to trap the atmosphere. Kinetic Barriers ("Shields"): Kinetic barriers, colloquially called "shields", provide protection against most mass accelerator weapons. Whether on a starship or a soldier's suit of armor, the basic principle remains the same.
Kinetic barriers are repulsive mass effect fields projected from tiny emitters. These shields safely deflect small objects traveling at rapid velocities. This affords protection from bullets and other dangerous projectiles, but still allows the user to sit down without knocking away their chair.
The shielding afforded by kinetic barriers does not protect against extremes of temperature, toxins, or radiation.There are other codex entries like the ones on armor that also mention this.
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Post by Sifr on Dec 9, 2020 12:13:42 GMT
Those examples involve having spaceship or space station levels of power sources, something people don’t have even with armor. Also it’s not kinetic barriers even holding the atmosphere in, but mass effect fields holding a compound that acts like a membrane to trap the atmosphere. Kinetic Barriers ("Shields"): Kinetic barriers, colloquially called "shields", provide protection against most mass accelerator weapons. Whether on a starship or a soldier's suit of armor, the basic principle remains the same.
Kinetic barriers are repulsive mass effect fields projected from tiny emitters. These shields safely deflect small objects traveling at rapid velocities. This affords protection from bullets and other dangerous projectiles, but still allows the user to sit down without knocking away their chair.
The shielding afforded by kinetic barriers does not protect against extremes of temperature, toxins, or radiation.There are other codex entries like the ones on armor that also mention this. You're right, I mixed up kinetic barriers with mass effect fields, D'oh!
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Post by Absafraginlootly on Dec 10, 2020 0:29:48 GMT
Maybe she's blind and doesn't need her eyes because a spirit helps her see... Maybe she's using some kind of (blood) magic to see through the eyes of her crows?
I have always loved the idea of seeing a "Bloodraven" type character, a blind hedge-mage who compensates for their lack of sight by "warging" into nearby animals to see or scout the area around them.
That sounds cool and adorable.
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Post by jrpN7 on Dec 10, 2020 19:50:00 GMT
I have been musing even more of late if we do get another spirit companion this time. How much would that throw Solas if there is a spirit that joins us to stop him of their own free will? Bonus points if that spirit used to be bound. Well i think that we all can agree that the female Qunari and the Mortalitasi are too cool and unique to be cut as DA 4 companion.
So yeah "Ghostrider" or Morti is our next spirit / something companion.
Can anyone give an update to someone who hasn't been able to check up on DA4 news since the teaser in 2018, like myself? For example, what is this art? Are these characters just fan theory and speculation or is there enough information to create these characters more or less accurately? Honestly, they look amazing- all of them, so I'm low-key hoping this is more than just fan art. Like, I am incredibly curious about the three on the left, especially the female qunari, and the male warrior next to her. Is crow lady a side character or suspected to be a companion? Also, who is leggy?
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 10, 2020 19:57:30 GMT
Well i think that we all can agree that the female Qunari and the Mortalitasi are too cool and unique to be cut as DA 4 companion.
So yeah "Ghostrider" or Morti is our next spirit / something companion.
Can anyone give an update to someone who hasn't been able to check up on DA4 news since the teaser in 2018, like myself? For example, what is this art? Are these characters just fan theory and speculation or is there enough information to create these characters more or less accurately? Honestly, they look amazing- all of them, so I'm low-key hoping this is more than just fan art. Like, I am incredibly curious about the three on the left, especially the female qunari, and the male warrior next to her. Is crow lady a side character or suspected to be a companion? Also, who is leggy? That was concept mood art shown in a video they released a few months ago. So it’s from the devs not fans, though again all the art was to capture mood rather than specific characters or places they warned. Crow lady is unknown, though many seem to think companion. Leggy is the woman furthest to the left in that group image, next to the lady qunari.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2020 13:22:33 GMT
So it seems that few characters are showing up in multiple concept art pieces.
Lady Qunari - rogue? Lady Crow - rogue? Dark haired Battlemage - mage Veilface - spirit (mage?)
I’m thinking these four are feeling more and more likely to be companions at this point. We’ve seen each of them a few times now. If that’s the case, that’s about half of the companions. And still no warriors making enough of an impact in concept art. A few leads to go on, sure, but none that seem as obvious as these four.
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Post by Rascoth on Dec 11, 2020 13:42:01 GMT
So it seems that few characters are showing up in multiple concept art pieces. Lady Qunari - rogue? Lady Crow - rogue? Dark haired Battlemage - mage Veilface - spirit (mage?) I’m thinking these four are feeling more and more likely to be companions at this point. We’ve seen each of them a few times now. If that’s the case, that’s about half of the companions. And still no warriors making enough of an impact in concept art. A few leads to go on, sure, but none that seem as obvious as these four. I'd say Grey Warden warrior is a decent guess as well. We had one in two concept art pieces: here and here, as well as that "For the Wardens!" by one of VAs during Behind the scenes video.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2020 14:01:27 GMT
So it seems that few characters are showing up in multiple concept art pieces. Lady Qunari - rogue? Lady Crow - rogue? Dark haired Battlemage - mage Veilface - spirit (mage?) I’m thinking these four are feeling more and more likely to be companions at this point. We’ve seen each of them a few times now. If that’s the case, that’s about half of the companions. And still no warriors making enough of an impact in concept art. A few leads to go on, sure, but none that seem as obvious as these four. I'd say Grey Warden warrior is a decent guess as well. We had one in two concept art pieces: here and here, as well as that "For the Wardens!" by one of VAs during Behind the scenes video. I didn’t even realize that the middle person on that new concept art was a warden. He(?) looked so generic that I assumed he was a stand in for the PC. But you are totally right. Davrin is looking very likely as a companion now. Before I wasn’t sure and to be fair, that specific character might still be a major NPC. But warden warrior likely, agreed. But if a bummer we still haven’t gotten a warden rogue yet though.
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Post by gervaise21 on Dec 11, 2020 14:14:35 GMT
At present I'd be more focused on the characters we see in the trailer. Are they meant to represent different types of PC? Then what exactly do you make of the twisted twig head with the magical bow? That makes me think more of an unusual companion character than the PC. Also it would mean that all the example of the PC were rogues, so that can't be right either.
So I'm thinking that it more likely depicts possibly companions, all of which happen to be rogues: one human (drinking); one dwarf (with knife) one elf (with bow) or the last one could even be some sort of earth spirit (related to the Lady of the Forest). What do you think?
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Post by gervaise21 on Dec 11, 2020 14:19:37 GMT
I didn’t even realize that the middle person on that new concept art was a warden. He(?) looked so generic that I assumed he was a stand in for the PC. This is probably true. Surely it would make far more sense to have 3 different figures, representing the 3 different classes that the PC could be, rather than showing 3 different companions? Also that would explain why there is one obviously male, one obviously female and one who could be anything behind the helmet.
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Post by luketrevelyan on Dec 11, 2020 14:48:38 GMT
At present I'd be more focused on the characters we see in the trailer. Are they meant to represent different types of PC? Then what exactly do you make of the twisted twig head with the magical bow? That makes me think more of an unusual companion character than the PC. Also it would mean that all the example of the PC were rogues, so that can't be right either. So I'm thinking that it more likely depicts possibly companions, all of which happen to be rogues: one human (drinking); one dwarf (with knife) one elf (with bow) or the last one could even be some sort of earth spirit (related to the Lady of the Forest). What do you think? When I first watched I thought they were the PC, but with the YouTube video description it seems they could be companions or just represent factions. "Get a first look at some of the new locations you’ll discover and the factions fighting by your side in the next chapter of Dragon Age."
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Post by gervaise21 on Dec 11, 2020 15:29:20 GMT
"Get a first look at some of the new locations you’ll discover and the factions fighting by your side in the next chapter of Dragon Age." Yes, and just before Varric says "I've got your back", he says "we've got your back", just after we've seen these three people. So I think that the shot between the legs is implying the new PC, then the next 3 represent the factions we are going to be involved with. At present I think that looks like: Human - Crow Dwarf - Kal'Sharok (I really hope so) Elf or Spirit - Executors/some other previously unknown faction but may be elemental connected with the titans. I'd be happy with those.
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