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Post by SirSourpuss on Jul 28, 2021 19:58:37 GMT
But that argument works just as well for your reason above, doesn't it? 60% of players killed Wrex off, so let's make him King of Tuchanka. Why? Just have him go back to being a merc. Otherwise, he's dead and can't interfere with the story you are trying to tell and can't hamper it. It's not like anyone expected Wrex to go King of Tuchanka in just the time between two games. There never was the expectation. Rather, it is a jarring conclusion to Wrex' arc, much like making Jack a teacher. One of the last things you'd expect either of them to do, after one game. That's stuff you save for after the Reaper war. Or stuff you have an active role in, to set up something. Like making Alistair or the Warden king in DA:O. I mean, I don't know either. Who knows what went on in their heads. I would guess that they first wrote ME2 as is. Than, at the very end, they made a decision on what the defaults were gonna be. If that was the timeline, it would make sense. But as I said, who knows. Then they'd realize they fucked up by propping a dead guy as king of a major faction. In which case, if they had Wreav already, just don't do the Wrex is king instead, thing. Like I said, have him go back to being a merc. It couldn't have been that fucking hard to change it. It's not like Wrex moves a lot.
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Post by The Elder King on Jul 28, 2021 20:23:43 GMT
I honestly don't think Jack and Wrex's situation are really comparable. I'd agree that Jack's teaching position (while I enjoyed the banter and such) would've worked better as a post-ending situation (even better with her being a squadmate in ME3 and with dialogues that might affect her decision), then something that happened right in ME3, but I don't think Wrex is similar. Other then the fact that more time passed between ME and ME2 then ME2 and ME3, Wrex already shown in ME that he wanted to change the Krogans centuries ago, and he became disillusioned by his father's betrayal. Working with Shepard to stop Saren, as well as seeing how his people were going to be used once more by someone else, are reasonable events for him to be motivated to trying to save his people again.
I'd agree that it could've worked even better if the plot was brought along in ME2, if the game would've gone in a different direction (if Shepard was going to organize the galaxy for the Reapers' arrival, it'd make sense for Wrex to be the one trying to rally the Krogans), but I don't think as it stands now is that weird or strange. And it's more about Bioware (as much as I liked ME2) wasting one game's plot without doing absolutely nothing for the Reapers' invasion's plot.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Jul 28, 2021 20:34:40 GMT
I honestly don't think Jack and Wrex's situation are really comparable. I'd agree that Jack's teaching position (while I enjoyed the banter and such) would've worked better as a post-ending situation (even better with her being a squadmate in ME3 and with dialogues that might affect her decision), then something that happened right in ME3, but I don't think Wrex is similar. Other then the fact that more time passed between ME and ME2 then ME2 and ME3, Wrex already shown in ME that he wanted to change the Krogans centuries ago, and he became disillusioned by his father's betrayal. Working with Shepard to stop Saren, as well as seeing how his people were going to be used once more by someone else, are reasonable events for him to be motivated to trying to save his people again. You don't go merc to King in 2 years, without some outside help. Leader of clan Urdnot, sure. King of Tuchanka? No way. Even then, leader of clan Urdnot, with such a drastic change in direction from "traditional" krogan viewpoints and lifestyle is just not going to earn Wrex any favours. Realistically, Wreav would have to be clan leader, with Wrex being an isolated opposition. Even in 2 years time, because allies would be few and far in between. Neither his arc, nor Jack's make sense, each for different reasons, but the end result is the same. I'd agree that it could've worked even better if the plot was brought along in ME2, if the game would've gone in a different direction (if Shepard was going to organize the galaxy for the Reapers' arrival, it'd make sense for Wrex to be the one trying to rally the Krogans), but I don't think as it stands now is that weird or strange. And it's more about Bioware (as much as I liked ME2) wasting one game's plot without doing absolutely nothing for the Reapers' invasion's plot. This is a plot that you could have done regardless, as a side quest, which would be optional and could have ramifications in ME3. But then you've just removed the Tuchanka arc from ME3, which is the high point of the game and possibly the franchise, tied up there with the SM, have nothing to substitute it with and it still does nothing for the overall Reaper war. You can't make a segment where you feasibly fight Reapers in this genre. There is no point to it. The Reapers are a mistake for the franchise to begin with and should have been written out entirely.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jul 28, 2021 20:50:19 GMT
Wrex wasn’t king of the Krogan in ME2. He was leader of Clan Urdnot and was busy making alliances. Other clans were still against him in ME2, and really it isn’t until ME3 that the krogan become unified and he could call himself a king.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2021 21:47:11 GMT
I have fought with Wrex, so have most of you. I think he was the hardest Krogan on Tuchanka. And it was clear to them. His ascendency was natural, regardless of his PoV. The Krogan respect brute force. He is The Battlemaster, others with the title are mere shadows. The Krogan are a difficult choice. As difficult as the Rachni, and just as dangerous if not more so. I don't regret saving either of them, and my modded ending does away with the bad parts of Destroy and I get happy AIs running around without Reaper influence in our new era. Quarian with Geth augmentation in their soups, Edi and the Sexbot Squad, and the Geth Allied Forces might help dealing with either of those old problems, were they to arise. Whammo! Happy ending. Happier than I needed it to be (would have been happy to die for above scenario), but damn sure happier than RGB "pick the least horrible ending that will divide your fanbase forever" dickdance we ended up with.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jul 29, 2021 2:10:20 GMT
I honestly don't think Jack and Wrex's situation are really comparable. I'd agree that Jack's teaching position (while I enjoyed the banter and such) would've worked better as a post-ending situation (even better with her being a squadmate in ME3 and with dialogues that might affect her decision), then something that happened right in ME3, but I don't think Wrex is similar. Other then the fact that more time passed between ME and ME2 then ME2 and ME3, Wrex already shown in ME that he wanted to change the Krogans centuries ago, and he became disillusioned by his father's betrayal. Working with Shepard to stop Saren, as well as seeing how his people were going to be used once more by someone else, are reasonable events for him to be motivated to trying to save his people again. I'd agree that it could've worked even better if the plot was brought along in ME2, if the game would've gone in a different direction (if Shepard was going to organize the galaxy for the Reapers' arrival, it'd make sense for Wrex to be the one trying to rally the Krogans), but I don't think as it stands now is that weird or strange. And it's more about Bioware (as much as I liked ME2) wasting one game's plot without doing absolutely nothing for the Reapers' invasion's plot. Yeah I htink tha tplu the chats Shep has with Wrex when Shep goes don't you caer wha thappens to the krogan plus the fac tthat Wrex though tthe best idea woyuld be to cuer the genophage . Whilst I htink his desier to help his people get a cuer for th egenophage helped him win his people over to his way of thinking he knwe he couldn't do it without help from people like Shep.
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Post by dazk on Jul 29, 2021 2:30:54 GMT
Does it discuss in what you have seen how to fix eyebrows? My Male Shep that I had to recreate as he wouldn't transfer from 2 to 3 I am mostly happy with but his eyebrows are way too dark, they look like they were done with a black maker pen. I just need to lighten the eyebrow colour. I found a save editor guide for femshep, but maybe it'll help: www.nexusmods.com/masseffectlegendaryedition/mods/112?tab=descriptionYou could also start a new Shepard with the same face code as the one you want to change, but with the correct eyebrow color. Then open that temporary Shepard's first save in the save editor and see what value it shows for the eyebrow color. Then just edit that value for your real Shepard. Thanks I used the guide you posted and it worked, definitely better but I think there is a variable I am missing that would change the thickness but it definitely changed the darkness.
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Post by dragontartare on Jul 29, 2021 2:46:57 GMT
Thanks I used the guide you posted and it worked, definitely better but I think there is a variable I am missing that would change the thickness but it definitely changed the darkness. I found this variable in the guide: "HED_Brow - Eyebrow mask". Maybe that could be it?
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Thanks I used the guide you posted and it worked, definitely better but I think there is a variable I am missing that would change the thickness but it definitely changed the darkness. I found this variable in the guide: "HED_Brow - Eyebrow mask". Maybe that could be it? Cheers, will have a fiddle with it later today. Thanks again.
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Post by Kabraxal on Jul 29, 2021 5:03:16 GMT
Thought I finally finished ME3LE on insanity... but noooo, Refuse isn’t considered an actual ending to pop the trophy. Now I have to replay that shit beam run, forced to listem to their art because you can’t skip lines here, and let my Shepard go stupid to choose one of the three braindead options. Not making friends, Bioware
Doesn’t help that insanity exposed the balance issues in ME3s combat. The game really is just a completely rushed mess that needed at least a year more in development to become something resembling a good game.
At least I can play a rushed game that turned out amazing next... I need a palate cleanse after this. Though I still need a ng+ to get all ME3 trophies. Bleh.
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on Jul 29, 2021 7:09:28 GMT
Doesn’t help that insanity exposed the balance issues in ME3s combat. The game really is just a completely rushed mess that needed at least a year more in development to become something resembling a good game. At least I can play a rushed game that turned out amazing next... I need a palate cleanse after this. Though I still need a ng+ to get all ME3 trophies. Bleh. Yeah, combat balance is totally bonkers - and combat is really primitive feeling with all the bad movement and bugs galore. Thankfully they did the best combat of most gaming in Andromeda. My ME3LE gameplay stalled too, I totally forgot I even played it - now playing Far Cry 2 and Max Payne 1 (soon through, 2 is already installed). Why it stalled? Well - the game is just corridor running with barely mediocre combat and 2 choices for talking, thats the highest reason.... ... and I've done it at least 13 times already, so 2 and 3 have lost almost all of their appeal for me, because how they went full on corridor shooters.
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Post by mtheillusive on Jul 29, 2021 21:08:55 GMT
Random Thoughts and Questions: 1) Why does the wiki have Shepard as Lt Commander and not Commander? I know the codex says LT.CMDR on 1 for like one entry (and I think 2 as well for the same one), but it could have been a typo that was never removed...and they have had those. Every other piece of the games, and I mean EVERY OTHER PIECE, from people calling him Commander to the character starter/creator literally saying CMDR. Shepard, to the timeline codex updates in 2 and 3 saying CMDR....kind of leans towards the idea that he is/always was Commander and Not Lt. Commander. <snip> 4) For any Veterans out there....is it possible that, in the hypothetical, I was a highest level NCO, and I take some tests to be a commissioned officer, that I will graduate or just become a Lt. Commander in 6 months? Or have my years of experience as an NCO transfer over to a CO for it to work? Cause truly Williams is a prodigy! The fastest ranking upcomer in the Alliance EVER! The way personnel are addressed varies from nation to nation, branch to branch, etc... But addressing a Lieutenant Commander as "Commander" would be typical in the US Navy, if I'm not mistaken. BioWare is all over the place with military details in this series. They really crap the bed in some ways, and it can be distracting. They could've used a consultant, or even just the internet and some employees' veteran family members, to do better. Oh, well. Shepard's lack of promotion during the series makes perfect sense. I'm sure he had to leave the Alliance upon accepting appointment to Council SPECTRE. Then, when he finally rejoins the Alliance at the beginning of ME3, he is reinstated at his previous rank. Had he remained Alliance, he certainly would've been promoted to full Commander and then Captain, at some point. As to Ashley, see above regarding "crapping the bed". The rapidity of her ascent is ridiculous. It makes no sense. Kaidan's promotions always feel weird because of the terminology. BioWare couldn't decide whether to use Navy or Marine ranks. According to the internet, a USMC Major is an O-4, comparable to a US Navy Lt. Commander. That's completely reasonable, in my opinion, given his years in service and assignments. He probably could've been a full Commander, but I suspect they didn't want that kind of terminology overlap with "Commander Shepard". Edit: May as well talk about Bailey, too. I've occasionally read gripes about Bailey's promotion from Captain to Commander. This would be wrong in the US military, where a Captain outranks a Commander. In US police forces, though, a Commander outranks a Captain; and C-Sec are police. I'm not talking about a lack of promotion to Commander...I'm saying that he/she was ALWAYS a commander since the start of ME1, and that the codex is a typo that was never taken out (and it's not the only mistake ever left in the codex before). Every other piece of the game/canon (including the codex), with the SOLE exception of that one piece that said LT. Cmdr, says Shep is Commander. Out of their OWN MOUTH (ME2), they say they are commander. When you first start every game, before you even get to the character creator, it says files for Commander SHepard. Basically I'm saying that because of one mistake on ONE codex entry, people have assumed he/she was a LT Cmdr when they weren't. Maybe when they were first making the game in early stages Shepard was supposed to be, but by game launch they are and have always been Commander.
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Post by mtheillusive on Jul 29, 2021 21:20:05 GMT
Oh, and I think I figured out Ashley (and by extension Kaiden) Ash is promoted past Gunnery Chief after ME1 (same with Kaiden to LT CMDR). In Ashley's case, I'm thinking that the Alliance has a thing where you can become a commissioned Officer via school while still being a Non-commissioned officer (they have that in real life if I read correctly). Sometime AFTER Horizon but before Mass Effect 3, she has clearly completed said training to become commissioned (most likely during ME2, making her a 2nd LT. post Horizon). In the 6 months between the end of ME2 and ME3, something major enough, some battle the Alliance was involved in, must have happened where she not only served, but got a Jump-Step Battlefield Promotion (but instead of just 2 ranks up, she went three, all the way to LT.Cmdr). In Kaiden case, minus the commission stuff, same thing: Jump-Step Battlefield Promotion (which is a real thing but hasn't been done in real life in a VERY long time) That my headcannon now anyway Also, I now have a possible understanding of how Shepard, who is a marine, is able to take over the ship so easily (besides being a Spectre): He's an N7. N7 training is for both combat AND leadership. There's a strong possibility that N7s are dual trained (like the equivalent to marine training and navy leadership training), and they are the only marines allowed to do so. It fits with Shepard as well as Anderson, who was a N7 marine who becomes Captain(Navy) and eventually Admiral seamlessly.
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Post by Element Zero on Jul 30, 2021 0:57:38 GMT
The way personnel are addressed varies from nation to nation, branch to branch, etc... But addressing a Lieutenant Commander as "Commander" would be typical in the US Navy, if I'm not mistaken. BioWare is all over the place with military details in this series. They really crap the bed in some ways, and it can be distracting. They could've used a consultant, or even just the internet and some employees' veteran family members, to do better. Oh, well. Shepard's lack of promotion during the series makes perfect sense. I'm sure he had to leave the Alliance upon accepting appointment to Council SPECTRE. Then, when he finally rejoins the Alliance at the beginning of ME3, he is reinstated at his previous rank. Had he remained Alliance, he certainly would've been promoted to full Commander and then Captain, at some point. As to Ashley, see above regarding "crapping the bed". The rapidity of her ascent is ridiculous. It makes no sense. Kaidan's promotions always feel weird because of the terminology. BioWare couldn't decide whether to use Navy or Marine ranks. According to the internet, a USMC Major is an O-4, comparable to a US Navy Lt. Commander. That's completely reasonable, in my opinion, given his years in service and assignments. He probably could've been a full Commander, but I suspect they didn't want that kind of terminology overlap with "Commander Shepard". Edit: May as well talk about Bailey, too. I've occasionally read gripes about Bailey's promotion from Captain to Commander. This would be wrong in the US military, where a Captain outranks a Commander. In US police forces, though, a Commander outranks a Captain; and C-Sec are police. I'm not talking about a lack of promotion to Commander...I'm saying that he/she was ALWAYS a commander since the start of ME1, and that the codex is a typo that was never taken out (and it's not the only mistake ever left in the codex before). Every other piece of the game/canon (including the codex), with the SOLE exception of that one piece that said LT. Cmdr, says Shep is Commander. Out of their OWN MOUTH (ME2), they say they are commander. When you first start every game, before you even get to the character creator, it says files for Commander SHepard. Basically I'm saying that because of one mistake on ONE codex entry, people have assumed he/she was a LT Cmdr when they weren't. Maybe when they were first making the game in early stages Shepard was supposed to be, but by game launch they are and have always been Commander. I don't think it was a typo or mistake. I think "Commander" is ubiquitous because it is simpler and cleaner to say. Really, Shepard ceased being "Commander" the second s/he left the Alliance. Yet, we continue to use it. It is essentially Shepard's first name. Lt Commanders are often called Commander, so I see no conflict there. Either rank works fine. I don't much care either way, since it has no impact upon Shepard's in-game influence and authority.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jul 30, 2021 2:41:01 GMT
I'm not talking about a lack of promotion to Commander...I'm saying that he/she was ALWAYS a commander since the start of ME1, and that the codex is a typo that was never taken out (and it's not the only mistake ever left in the codex before). Every other piece of the game/canon (including the codex), with the SOLE exception of that one piece that said LT. Cmdr, says Shep is Commander. Out of their OWN MOUTH (ME2), they say they are commander. When you first start every game, before you even get to the character creator, it says files for Commander SHepard. Basically I'm saying that because of one mistake on ONE codex entry, people have assumed he/she was a LT Cmdr when they weren't. Maybe when they were first making the game in early stages Shepard was supposed to be, but by game launch they are and have always been Commander. I don't think it was a typo or mistake. I think "Commander" is ubiquitous because it is simpler and cleaner to say. Really, Shepard ceased being "Commander" the second s/he left the Alliance. Yet, we continue to use it. It is essentially Shepard's first name. Lt Commanders are often called Commander, so I see no conflict there. Either rank works fine. I don't much care either way, since it has no impact upon Shepard's in-game influence and authority. Yeah for example Data in TNG actuall yhad th erank of Lt Commander and quite often hewas jus tcalled Commander Data rather than Lt Commander. I think like you because it's jus teasier to say Commander s oand so it's just easier to say especially when it comes to issuing orders quickly.
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Post by mannyray on Jul 30, 2021 3:32:16 GMT
Basically I'm saying that because of one mistake on ONE codex entry, people have assumed he/she was a LT Cmdr when they weren't. Maybe when they were first making the game in early stages Shepard was supposed to be, but by game launch they are and have always been Commander. Hell, I always wondered why Shepard was never promoted to Captain, at least getting a field promotion when he/she was reinstated in ME:3.
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Post by Element Zero on Jul 30, 2021 4:15:02 GMT
Basically I'm saying that because of one mistake on ONE codex entry, people have assumed he/she was a LT Cmdr when they weren't. Maybe when they were first making the game in early stages Shepard was supposed to be, but by game launch they are and have always been Commander. Hell, I always wondered why Shepard was never promoted to Captain, at least getting a field promotion when he/she was reinstated in ME:3. Captain is actually a really big deal in the Navy. It's a grade lower than Admiral. I'm not saying Shepard shouldn't be a Captain. He's effectively captained the Alliance's most advanced warship through the shit. He probably would've become "Captain Shepard" if he'd stayed Alliance. A field promotion would fit ME, I guess, since it plays fast and loose with real world conventions. The big problem would be that the iconic Commander Shepard would suddenly be Captain Shepard. It would just sound too weird. Shepard didn't really need a promotion, anyway. He was the defacto captain of Normandy and a Council SPECTRE and the person with the most credibility when the Reapers invaded. The extra bars and the pay-grade he'd never get to see wouldn't help kill Reapers.
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Post by Sundance31us on Jul 30, 2021 17:15:22 GMT
Ashley calls Kaiden "LT" in conversation on the Normandy in ME1. He is Shepard's next in command. Captain Anderson Commander Shepard Lt (Commander?) Alenko For the Normandy Pressley is second in command...(for ME1) I don't believe Kaidan is a line officer.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2021 17:17:23 GMT
Ashley calls Kaiden "LT" in conversation on the Normandy in ME1. He is Shepard's next in command. Captain Anderson Commander Shepard Lt (Commander?) Alenko For the Normandy Pressley is second in command...(for ME1) I don't believe Kaidan is a line officer. Wow, forgot about Pressley didn't I? You are correct. However, you do recall Ashley referring to Kaiden as LT, yes?
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Post by Sundance31us on Jul 30, 2021 17:22:45 GMT
For the Normandy Pressley is second in command...(for ME1) I don't believe Kaidan is a line officer. Wow, forgot about Pressley didn't I? You are correct. However, you do recall Ashley referring to Kaiden as LT, yes? Yes, she does. Kaidan is... - Staff Lieutenant (ME1) - Staff Commander (ME2) - Major (ME3) The reason I think he's not an Officer of the Line is because he became a Major instead of a LT Commander.
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Post by dmc1001 on Jul 30, 2021 20:57:41 GMT
Wow, forgot about Pressley didn't I? You are correct. However, you do recall Ashley referring to Kaiden as LT, yes? Yes, she does. Kaidan is... - Staff Lieutenant (ME1) - Staff Commander (ME2) - Major (ME3) The reason I think he's not an Officer of the Line is because he became a Major instead of a LT Commander. The rankings in ME don't lineup with RL. I went through USN and USMC ranks with no luck, assuming it's even moderately based on US military. I wrote a fic set in the MEU and had to basically create the ranks to fit my characters moving up ranks.
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Post by Sundance31us on Jul 30, 2021 21:04:26 GMT
Yes, she does. Kaidan is... - Staff Lieutenant (ME1) - Staff Commander (ME2) - Major (ME3) The reason I think he's not an Officer of the Line is because he became a Major instead of a LT Commander. The rankings in ME don't lineup with RL. I went through USN and USMC ranks with no luck, assuming it's even moderately based on US military. I wrote a fic set in the MEU and had to basically create the ranks to fit my characters moving up ranks. It's a complete mess. I wanted to try and figure out how the insignias worked so that my uniform retextures could have some degree of accuracy, but I just gave up in the end and gave Shep three gold stripes.
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Post by dmc1001 on Jul 30, 2021 21:06:39 GMT
The rankings in ME don't lineup with RL. I went through USN and USMC ranks with no luck, assuming it's even moderately based on US military. I wrote a fic set in the MEU and had to basically create the ranks to fit my characters moving up ranks. It's a complete mess. I wanted to try and figure out how the insignias worked so that my uniform retextures could have some degree of accuracy, but I just gave up in the end and gave Shep three gold stripes. That uniform is great!
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