Mass Effect Legendary Edition (General Discussion)

Sure it is a bigger pool, but it is a fact it gives them faster than me3mp loot system does.

So thats the top? I've heard more of over thousand hours from the ex-players. Do they lie?

Edit: I guess this could also be down to RNG differences - I only endured me3mp for ~23 hours in 2018 before quitting, so I got few underwhelming peashooters only

WRT the variants in MEAMP … when it started out, the variants competed with the base weapons in a class (common and uncommon built so fast, it really didn't matter, but for rare and especially UR it had an effect) … but, they modified the drops so that within a rarity class, until you got all the base weapons maxed in that class, you didn't start getting drops in the variants. That way, the weapons pool for the base weapons remained unchanged. And the way the loot drops worked, your UR base weapons were not competing with your Rare variant weapons when purchasing packs.

Similar with characters … until you got all your rarity class characters to level X, you didn't get drops for XI - XX for characters of the same rarity class. You could be getting XI - XX upgrades to common class characters, while not getting XI - XX upgrades to UR class characters when purchasing a pack … the point is, for the base character, the pool, other than adding characters, did not increase and the pool for character bonuses did not kick in, until you'd gotten all the characters in that rarity class to level X. As I said, it didn't start out that way, at this point I don't recall if they fixed it via patch or a server-side update … but they did fix it.

As Unicephalon 40-D says, the variants started out with the same stats as the level X weapon or the same skill points as the level X character … the only differences are the added weapon effects or character bonuses. My gripe is with the bulwark variant … IF they had made it so that it boosted the entire team when in close proximity (as some of the character powers did), it might be worth it. As it was, only providing a bonus to the player with the weapon, it was filler. Also, would have liked to have seen the base weapon disappear, once you unlocked the second variant … no reason to have the base weapon at that point, the variants at level I have the same weapon characteristics. It just clutters the inventory.

Typically, I carry a concussive weapon as primary and a siphon weapon as backup … sometimes of the same weapon (pistols for some of the light carry characters, ARs or sniper rifles for the heavier carriage characters). Exceptions … typically load the Dhan concussive and P.A.W. concussive for my Krogan Gladiator; typically use the Crusader siphon and Rozerad siphon for my Asari Adept. Pretty much everything else, one concussive and one siphon.

When they first dropped the variant weapons and character bonus drops, I wasn't very happy. But once they fixed the drops, so that in effect, it didn't expand the drop pool for base weapons and characters, it became no big deal … the only annoyance being the bulwark variant, which was a pretty significant whiff IMO.

I guess they play Bronze. Anyway, I took the effort of getting a good estimate.

ME3MP has 21 UR weapons, which are the final grind – by the time you unlock all of them, you're easily expected to already have everything else. Having run 1000000 simulations, you need 76 UR unlocks on average to catch them all. The expected UR card income of an Arsenal Pack is 0.15 (two slots capable of dropping a UR, each of them 7.5% chance), meaning you need about 76/0.15 = 507 Arsenal packs. A Gold game + all the lobby stuff lasts about 25 minutes and gives about 80000 credits, some 30000 of which are then usually spent on a Jumbo Equipment Pack to replenish consumables. So you get about (80000 - 30000)*60/25 = 120000 credits per hour, which equals to about 1.2 Arsenal packs (they cost 99000). So it gives 422 hours on average – seems I was lucky with my 300 hours.

How about Andromeda?

So ok, these people didnt have experience before starting game etc. then? That would explain the taken time and maybe bad RNG luck?

I didn't either, ME3mp was was my first MP game, really. I think it's probably more about playing in bronze/silver, having bad RNG luck, and not buying packs 'optimally' to max the manifest as fast as possible.

People should play what they want and how they want for their own enjoyment. Some people enjoy the challenge of completing the inventory or doing it as fast as possible or whatever, I imagine my 600-700 hours isn't too far off of the median though, I pretty much played just for fun, and as time went by most of my fun was found in gold matches, but I wasn't concentrating on that for the purpose of maxing my manifest.



What I was intending to say is that 300-400 is like a best-case-scenario... as burningcherry did the math here, 422 works for a theoretical series of 25 minute gold games... but you could drop the time if you were mostly in platinum, and/or were with a group that did 12 minute glacier runs.

I didnt have any ideas about the 'farming' and optimal pack getting either before joining this forum not that I still care about much, for me its the gameplay and movement with speed, always been (looking at UT games )

I'll take your word for it as I wont be putting the time into the hot garbage that is MEA MP when the far superior ME3 MP exists.

No accounting for taste.

Maybe you're right, but this showcase is showing how lucky we are on PC's and how... ordinary experience it will be for console players. 

Mayb ebut then i tals odepends on how good you are at modding. Fo rexampl edespite my bes tefforts I've never been able o get mods working on the ME trilogy despite my best efforts but then I find the games thoroughly enjoable even without mods so gav up and jus tdecided to enjoy the games as they are in theend.  you don't necessarily have to have mods to thoroughl yenjoy a game tbh. esides the fac it's bein gupdated to more modern machines I think will help the series move on I hope. At ht eend of the da yit was don emainly wit hthe Playstation in mind I think.