Mass Effect Legendary Edition (General Discussion)

Too bad that EA for some reason blocked online/multiplayer capabilities of my ME3 copy.

I don't really play MP anyway so don' treall know. I tend t ouse the N7HQ site for dealing wit hthe Galactic readiness when I want to boost it.But I tend t od oi tas a means to hea rHackett's various responses even if I don't need to for DLC or EMS purposes

Turian Havoc + Siphon Cyclone
Yes, the power evolution system conflates them and so can I. "Passive power" is in the vocabulary.
Tried AA and she was somewhat of an N7 Fury–N7 Slayer combination but with the map construction or ability composition disallowing the use of the prime strengths of either. The Krogan Engineer is, as far as I see, identical to ME3's Human Engineer. The Exemplar was fine with his combo rate but still far from QME. Never got the Kineticist, played only about 80h (edit: or maybe 120, interpolating from the counter) before giving up and checking on ME3 though.I'm planning to reinstall Andromeda and play it within the next half a year so sure. What if we play ME3 and I'm the Fury or Cabal?
Vid that proves this is reproducible as a default gameplay loop or didn't happen.
Wonder if any MEA kit could survive a Platinum duo without those moves and siphoning weapons.

The Turian Havoc requires a Cyclone Siphon? Oh FFS. My dude, that is absurd.

I probably spent two months playing the Turian Havoc exclusively when the game was fairly new … I tried many weapon mixes with her, but no Cyclone was ever a significant part of the mix. I played her because she's a gun bunny and pretty darn tanky. As a rare character, I got her unlocked and upgraded fairly quickly … she's great. In my head cannon, she's the big sister of the "surfer dude" Turian Agent, sent to Andromeda by her family to make sure her dippy brother doesn't get himself killed.

Currently, I use her for shotgun challenges, her expanded magazine size and spare ammo, combined with her weapon stability and damage bonus passives allow her to rule the joint for those challenges. Her incinerate power and flak cannon are great additions for anti-armor and crowd control. Her turbocharge just has one point into it, with the shotgun, it doesn't come into play … with other weapons such as the P.A.W., it's quite useful, even with just one point. I use her in some of the weakened assault team challenges … no Cyclone Siphon required. I've never been fond of the Cyclone … yeah, she would do OK with it … she makes every weapon better, but lots of other weapons are better than any variant of the Cyclone. As far as the Cyclone siphon required for her build, that's nonsense on stilts.

Seriously, that is just absurd.   

Edit add: I'd already posted when it dawned on me … your argument WRT the Cyclone and Turian Havoc is exactly backwards. Wow. The Cyclone needs a Turian Havoc, probably with a fairly specific build … shifting point allocation to turbocharge … to make the mediocre Cyclone into a viable weapon, Siphon or otherwise on gold. But the Turian Havoc makes all the weapons better and there are better options than the Cyclone, that make the Havoc a better all around character. As an uncommon weapon, the Cyclone shouldn't be expected to rock the joint, that it can hit above it's rarity class when paired with the Havoc is great, but that's what a gun bunny can do for you.

Oh FFS …

Then by your reasoning, in ANY game … if I say I need Character X and Weapon Y for a Character X + Weapon Y build …

It's not straightforward, it's absurd circular reasoning and a tautology …

A Fury + Arc Pistol build needs a Fury and an Arc pistol for the defining idea of using an Arc Pistol with a Fury.

An Avenger + Krogan Warlord build needs an Avenger plus a Krogan Warlord … "for whatever reason."

If I can make that claim for ANY weapon and character combo, then it's tautological argument.

What is the "for whatever reason" to use the Cyclone? You left that out. There must be some compelling reason to use that weapon … but other than wanting to use that weapon on the Turian Havoc … it is not required for Turian Havoc viability. Which was the argument you made about variants, for which I asked you to give examples.

I asked for an example of a variant weapon that was required to make a character build viable. If the same build is viable using multiple different weapons, then the Turian does not require the Cyclone for that build to be viable.

Your arguments have devolved into MSU, I think it's time to stop.

Edit add: a reasonable conclusion is that you are simply a troll.

Congrats, I fell for your BS and treated you seriously. My mistake. I should know better by now.

To get this thread back on track:

Exactly.

They're not being lazy. They are terrified and they don't know what to do with it.

As far as I have been made aware, they don't want to touch it, not even with a 10' pole.

Here's a thought; Crucible fires, Reaper die, everyone is safe, we won. No need to colour filter it. It's not like the original endings were that diverse, to begin with. Or even the EC is. I don't think anyone would complain with that, compared to what we originally got. It's simple, straightforward and what we all set out to do.

And how will you handle the possible extinction of four different species that also occur in ME3?