Mass Effect Legendary Edition (General Discussion)

Yeah, one thing that’s easily been overlooked was just how good the character animations are in Anthem. It’s easily the best looking in any BioWare game made, and it’s left in service of a shitty live service with an anemic story. 

This can also go both ways. Why wasn't this an issue 10 years ago?

I mean it kind of was. First time I played the game I found the angles that were specifically there for no reason other then to show off Miranda's ass as tacky. I had the same feeling with a shit load of moments with Quiet in MGS 5.

Or gamers upset about it should grow up instead. If this minor change upsets them so much, then that's their personal character failing.

As I've said, it isn't the change itself, but rather what does this mean for Bioware.
I don't need to tell you, at least, I think I don't, about the many times the community has criticized Bioware of their designs, post ME3. Vivienne, Dorian, Cole, Iron Bull, Kassandra, Solas, Sera all were criticized to some extent in DA:I, I don't even need to mention the Shrek edits with Peebee, the Scott and Sarah memes, Liam as well. They believe that it is all happening on purpose. And maybe it is, maybe it isn't. But it is happening in many games across the medium and it is making the audience jumpy and weary. Is the reaction exaggerated? Quite likely. But it doesn't look like Bioware conveyed it as well, as they usually do, to their audience and considering Bioware's aparent disdain for their audience, the reaction is to be expected. As a result, is keeping the original such a bad solution?

I can't speak for MGSV, I didn't follow it. I did hear some complaints. And Japan is ... they're their own culture. I'm not ... even if I could argue with them, it's not my place. Effectively, I will either buy the game and play it, or I won't. But clearly it did something right, because everyone knows Quiet. In my post here, I had a problem remembering the names of the characters and I still can't remember what Cole looked like. Which is funny, considering his power in-game. Also, the adult part of ME character depictions has, partly, allowed the franchise to survive far longer than it logically would, considering the "turbulence" it has been through the past few years... decade. Under different circumstances, without the lasting impact of the crew, this franchise would be dead. So whether we like it or not, Bioware has benefited from this greatly and if they don't like it ... I can't imagine what studio would be angry at its success. Like, we made characters that, even 10 years later, 14 for some, are still relevant in minds of gamers everywhere. How many franchises can boast that? How many franchises have that power to sustain them? Very few and Bioware is unbelievably lucky to have them.

Oh yeah, Mario, Link, Master Chief, and so on are all famous for those butt shots. :rolleyes:

You’re not even trying anymore.

No. Well, they are, if you consider Bioware's response to the ME3 endings. Extended Cut included. But they are getting fan feedback both ways in this instance and I'd argue the push back is greater than the push forward. Or at least that's how I quantify it.


Usually, at least over the past few years, when such changes happen, a lot more changes than what the devs initially disclosed would change. Which causes more problems for the dev later. Which is making the public more reserved toward it. There's a ton of games that got censored over localization to match "modern sensibilities" and are vastly different to the original product.


I don't think we've evolved past looking at butts. I don't need to relate the reactions and commentary of my lady friend, every time she saw some juicy Henry Caville in the Witcher netflix show. Or any Caville in general, anywhere. I mean, shit, if I talked like that about a female colleague, for example ... oof. There's no HR department that would handle those sexual harassment charges.

Funny thing, shirtless Caville in MoS inspired me to get ripped. You can't get more Superman than Henry, to be honest.

I get that, but a RPG and Anthem are very different. We shall see when DA4 comes out if they can pull it off.

Obviously not. It's not a 1:1 comparison, but you can't deny that part of the popularity of ME's characters is sex appeal. But they are popular and have outlasted in popularity a ton of their contemporaries and even recent replacements/competitors.