Mass Effect Legendary Edition (General Discussion)

I mean hell we had Jaal...well...*cough*...you know to Fem Ryder during the last game. And didn't have anything of note in Anthem but I do not think that game *had* romances so there is nothing to indicate a move away from sex scenes or sexual content in general, which can be perfectly fine in context, just not annoying ridiculious butt shots.

As I've said, this may be the starting point of a change to the opposite.


She strips to her bra. And by strip, I mean she just unbuttons her shirt. Liara shows full ass in ME1. There's nothing explicit and fanservicey about it.


The best thing, the absolute best thing Bioware could have done about this, is not say a goddamn thing. You know what that would have caused? A video on some nobody's channel a few weeks or months after release, comparing the scenes between ME2 and ME2:LE. That would have been the blowback. Now, it is being made into a big deal, because Bioware chose to make it a big deal. I don't know for what reason. And the worst thing is that I don't know what this means for the future. Maybe it means nothing. Maybe it means everything. Maybe, even if we get Bioware to turn back on this, they will never show as much as a woman's ankle in the future. Or maybe we won't turn this back and DA4 will have fat bottomed naked elves parading down the streets. But the thing is that Bioware is on shaky ground, has been for nearly 9 years now, every release has to be accompanied by its mandated controversy and this is all par for the course for Bioware. It's like they are intent on making decisions specifically to make people pissed at them in some capacity. Which, if we are talking about "evolution", as Mac put it, I strongly doubt Bioware, or at least Mac, have evolved.

You'd think with something as simple as a remaster of a 10 year old game, Bioware would at least be able to avoid making even one controversy. But apparently, that's asking too much.

5 seconds as vamp guy pulls out a knife. While Quiet has an entire shower and they make excuses why she can't wear cloths because she will suffocate. But can get wet without suffocation.

Yes, that's my whole argument. They are moving.

Towards less scenes they consider to be objectifying, and apparently towards more explicit romance scenes. That's not a slippery slope down puritanism lane, it's a slippery slope to having your most watched walkthrough guides be hosted on Pornhub.


If you don't think Miranda's romance scene is fairly explicit, then fine, let's go with the Liara scene. You can experience that with 4K textures and HDR, unlike the controversial butt shot, because it's going to be featured in the Legendary Edition of ME1. Because they aren't censoring nakedness or the female form or whatever.


It's a video on some bottomfeeder's channel right now just like it would have been in May. And their viewers who probably wouldn't give money to BW in the first place because they consider them a "SJW company" are really pissed. That's the sum of the blowback. It's actually pretty funny.

Anthem didn't have romances. It did have Bioware's first explicitly Asexual character in best girl Brin though, so that was nice. Hopefully that means someday they'll have Ace LIs. 

Here's hoping. 

They said game, not series. 

Oh please, we both know the same people causing a controversy now would stir up just as big a frenzy if not more if Bioware did that. 

Ok you just reminded me of this and I had to post it... 

Well, that's not very nice.

Maybe. We'll never know now.

As I said, it's a matter of trust. If that is indeed the only thing that's changed, how many people would have actually noticed? My bet is very few and even fewer would care.

Now, since Bioware went out a made a statement, years ago, about how the endings weren't going to be an a/b/c type of choice, anything Bioware will say about them doing anything, means they are hiding something. It doesn't mean that they are, indeed, just that people don't trust them not to. Trust toward Bioware flew out the window and anything they will say, will be scrutinized. Greatly. You know what wasn't scrutinized? When they showed Sovereign on Eden Prime, few people argued about the red sky being gone. You know what they were angry about? An offhanded comment about making something less sexualized. If people had just seen it, I think they would have been OK with it. Provided that is the only thing changed, indeed. Maybe people are getting a bit too paranoid toward Bioware, because of Bioware's continuous breaches of trust, but it's not like Bioware didn't earn those. I think people have every right to be paranoid toward Bioware, at this point.