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Post by Obsidian Gryphon on Feb 7, 2021 7:35:27 GMT
Just came across this. I don't know if it's been posted. Apologies if so.
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Post by The Elder King on Feb 7, 2021 8:34:51 GMT
No I really want to know how you can think something is "adult" simply because during a random conversation the camera angle switches focus from the two character's face to the woman's ass even though the conversation has 0 to do with her body and 0 sexual or flirty dialogue that would validate it. Because her looks are part of her persona. And it makes sense to showcase it, in any conversation. Miranda's looks, past and personality are all interwoven, through narrative, into one. It all works together, or it falls apart. Without the sexualized shots, the point of her being this super beautiful, super attractive, irresistible woman that all men would want, falls flat. And, in a sense, saying you've moved on from that depiction of her body, means you've moved on from Miranda, meaning you no longer, as a creator, approve of your own creation. Which also spits in the face of her fans. At least, that's how it comes across to me and others I talked to. Because Mac made a point exactly that he "evolved" past it. And maybe it is a single show and it doesn't matter much, but in Mac saying it, it behooves a response. Had Mac never said a word about it, as I said earlier, this would have been a comparison video in some nobody's channel, a few weeks or months after the LE release, that nobody would have given two shits about. Well, that's not very nice. I mean, I agree that a better response would have been more reasonable, but while I don’t think you’re trolling in saying this and you truly believe that, it seems to me a bit far-fetched, to say that her character is ruined because they decide to remove the opportunity to showcase her beauty at all times. The fact that she’s beautiful and ‘perfect’ remains intact, whether we can see her ass in particular dramatic shots or not. Especially because, even from the start, she’s much more of her body. Everyone is free to have their opinion, and again, I do think that this isn’t some kind of justification to say why the butt shots should be present or not, but as another Miranda fan, I disagree. And while there are certainly others that feel and think like you did, there are also others that stated that they didn’t give much thought of Miranda in their first playthrough because of those shots, and re-evaluate her character afterwards. One thing I’d say about the change of the climate in the last 10 years, that others have addressed: while I wouldn’t know for sure everything that was criticized or not back then, even about the butt shots (I recall criticism mixed with meme), the bit about boob armours being criticized by few and laughed by the rest is factually untrue. I recall LONG threads and discussions about this topic, and the ME2 outfits in general, going on in the legacy BSN, with tons of people discussing (and fighting) about it, split on different views. That doesn’t mean that nowadays the situation isn’t different, but it wasn’t as one sided as some people are saying back then.
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on Feb 7, 2021 8:50:53 GMT
I get that, but a RPG and Anthem are very different. We shall see when DA4 comes out if they can pull it off. As for face models and functionality, there is no difference what style the game will be.
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Not sure if this got posted. Novelty item for the 'kitchen sink' edition but canon content: Text version: N7
Congratulations on your graduation
From Captain David Anderson
Shepard,
When I graduated from the N7 program I had the honor of meeting Admiral Grissom, the man who inspired me to pursue a career in the service, and I never thought I’d feel prouder in my life.
I was mistaken.
Don’t get me wrong, it was a big day. An important day. But there’s something about welcoming driven young people like yourself into the ranks that’s also pretty damn satisfying.
Your distinguished service record may have gotten you into this program - but it was your courage, integrity, and tenacity that’s enabled you to join an elite few. You represent the best of humanity, and I feel certain you’ll make the galaxy a better place.
And I’m not the only one who feels this way. Becoming an N7 means the entire Systems Alliance is telling you one thing - we believe in you.
Let me end by saying this. Welcome to the team Shepard.
We know you won’t let us down.
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Post by KaiserShep on Feb 7, 2021 9:04:58 GMT
I think the importance of visual language gets overlooked a lot when it comes to games, maybe because games tend to not be taken particularly seriously in that respect. Best way to really see if the creator is good at using this language is to mute the audio and let an observer unaware of the story interpret it. You bet your ass that the interpretations observers come up with while watching certain shots of Miranda will not at all be reflective of the actual content of the scene.
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Post by Kappa Neko on Feb 7, 2021 9:23:20 GMT
A lot of people dislike the Eden Prime redesign, and are generally able to articulate why. Thank you i'm glad that i'm not alone in regards to the lighting changes. Yeah the Eden Prime change is exactly the kind of thing I didn't want. Looks bland AF. Please no changes to the art style/color palette! All I personally wanted was sharper textures and all DLC. I wanted the exact same experience as before, just sharper. Warts and all. Definitely not buying this now.
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Post by Croatsky on Feb 7, 2021 9:27:11 GMT
Some gamers: "Wow, these feminist players are such snowflakes, they get upset about anything!" Same gamers: Why did you change one camera so I can't stare at a woman's ass during this particular dialogue anymore?! Censorship I tell you!I never even got to see Garrus without his armor/clothing during my romance scene... These same feminists who cry and blame white men the moment people criticize their criticism? 2014 called, it wants it's "feminist owned compilation" back.
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Post by The Elder King on Feb 7, 2021 9:38:54 GMT
From what I read, it seems they went back to the original concept arts and decided to get closer to them in the in-game rapresentation, and they even brought back ME's lead artist (who I think he's also working on NME, because Gamble talked about him after the VGA).
I'll judge the full result on release. Eden Prime's atmosphere is the only negative think out of the ME-related changed that came out, for me, but I want to see that whole scene in motion, also.
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Post by Gileadan on Feb 7, 2021 9:44:32 GMT
I didn't like Miranda's butt shot, because it's not a choice, just like Hawke staring after Isabela after their first meeting. The moment denies me the option to play my Shepard as a respectful professional who adheres to the venerable guideline of "Dienst ist Dienst und Schnaps ist Schnaps". I would be fine with it if it was an option that the player can pick or not, and I would be fine if that option would be available towards male NPCs too. But since BioWare has evolved now, I will be curious to see if the Femshep/James "seduction" in the Citadel DLC remains untouched, where Femshep basically encourages James to get drunk enough to bang her. Totally not awkward and really wouldn't be a problem at all if their genders were reversed and male Shep getting a girl drunk enough to boink her. We'll see.
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Post by Kappa Neko on Feb 7, 2021 9:49:17 GMT
From what I read, it seems they went back to the original concept arts and decided to get closer to them in the in-game rapresentation, and they even brought back ME's lead artist (who I think he's also working on NME, because Gamble talked about him after the VGA). I'll judge the full result on release. Eden Prime's atmosphere is the only negative think out of the ME-related changed that came out, for me, but I want to see that whole scene in motion, also. I respect that. It's just that for me personally there is no point in a nostalgia buy when the game doesn't look the same anymore. I know the game's target audience is a new generation. And they won't mind the change, they'll probably prefer the remaster look over the blurry original. So my own gripes are irreverent. I'm just sad because I was very much looking forward to replaying on PC without having to shell out 70+ bucks again just for the DLC. If they offered the same bundle for $60 of the original games and DLC, I'd buy it right now.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Feb 7, 2021 9:52:21 GMT
For those inevitable bad feels. You'll get through it again.
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Post by roivas on Feb 7, 2021 10:12:26 GMT
Or gamers upset about it should grow up instead. If this minor change upsets them so much, then that's their personal character failing. Some gamers: "Wow, these feminist players are such snowflakes, they get upset about anything!" Same gamers: Why did you change one camera so I can't stare at a woman's ass during this particular dialogue anymore?! Censorship I tell you!I never even got to see Garrus without his armor/clothing during my romance scene... And 14 years later I still won't see the m/m romance in ME1 Legendary Edition without a mod :/
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Post by Croatsky on Feb 7, 2021 10:12:43 GMT
I didn't like Miranda's butt shot, because it's not a choice, just like Hawke staring after Isabela after their first meeting. The moment denies me the option to play my Shepard as a respectful professional who adheres to the venerable guideline of "Dienst ist Dienst und Schnaps ist Schnaps". I would be fine with it if it was an option that the player can pick or not, and I would be fine if that option would be available towards male NPCs too. But since BioWare has evolved now, I will be curious to see if the Femshep/James "seduction" in the Citadel DLC remains untouched, where Femshep basically encourages James to get drunk enough to bang her. Totally not awkward and really wouldn't be a problem at all if their genders were reversed and male Shep getting a girl drunk enough to boink her. We'll see. I do recall Vega fans were not happy with this at all, at the time.
There was a demand for a romance, not to get James drunk enough for sex only to leave him uncomfortable after that affair.
MET team had serious issues when it came to FemShep romance writing. DA never had this issue, while MEA did a good job with romances.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Feb 7, 2021 10:23:33 GMT
I would respect your argument a lot more if the response to the lack of puritanism in other aspects of the LE or BW projects wasn't 'well maybe they're hiding it' and then an appeal to responsibility and trust. If there really is no slippery slope, then why is this ultimately such a big deal? Again, why would it be more honest if they hadn't said anything at all? Is it a bad thing if there are 'hidden' changes or is it not? Because there is no proof otherwise. As I said, the idea that it didn't happen before, doesn't mean it won't be happening in the future and if everyone is presenting it as a non-issue, then why make an issue out of it? Ideally, if it isn't an issue, then you don't make it an issue. If you are making it an issue, that means there's problem. And yes, had Bioware not said a word, people would have played through the LE, they would have got to the scene, they would have missed the change, because they don't play the original ME2 every day, just to load it up to that conversation with Miranda, to remember the shots perfectly, they would see the change, maybe some time later, that it is insignificant and moved on. If it is a non issue, then you treat it as a non issue. If you treat it as an issue, that means something is wrong. And you know what, maybe they did change Liara's ass shot in ME1, as well. They haven't said it, but it doesn't mean they didn't do it. Because if a clothed ass shot is an issue, how about a naked ass shot? Do you think that will make it through? I have my severe reservations now. I don't trust Bioware not to, now. Maybe it's because I mostly hang around Twitter and Discord, but the situation is very much reversed there. A lot of people dislike the Eden Prime redesign, and are generally able to articulate why. Nobody takes the Miranda stuff seriously. I don't care much if /v/ has a meltdown or if culture war crusaders like the Quartering get 100k views pumping out fake outrage about a game they had completed half a playthrough of back in 2012. Well, I have a problem with both, to be honest. And I only expected one of the two, but even so, I wasn't going to buy it. But I despise "modern sensibilities" more than the Eden Prime redesign. Now, I am willing to buy it, just to prove a point. If you are going to ask me why I don't have a problem with the Ede Prime redesign, it's because, as I've said, it's every remaster ever. Changes in lighting and atmosphere that completely botch the original's feel. The Silent Hill remasters did that, the Batman Arkham remaster did it, the Sleeping Dogs remaster did it, literally every remaster did it, except TLoU. The only one good remaster. Why would anyone thinks this was going to be different, I don't know. Why would Bioware, modern Bioware, of all studios, do it better? I'm on PC. I have mods. Never cared for the remaster. Never wanted it. And I don't know what more problems will arise, after the game gets released.
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Post by The Elder King on Feb 7, 2021 10:31:51 GMT
We should keep in mind that there are a lot of people that played the trilogy back then and can’t right now (PS5) or can, but without mods to enhance the admittedly outdated graphics (Series X/S). And the same thing was true in last gen. PC players are just a part of the old fanbase, so it’s normal that, while for them a remaster might not be appealing (although I saw PC players that want to buy it), for console players a remaster is more appealing.
Plus, the LE, if successful, could bring a new influx of players that didn’t play the trilogy or BioWare games in, so that the audience for their next games is increased.
Given enough time and resources, I think a remake would’ve been better, but I also think that it’d have caused a lot of complaints also, based on the likely decision to change stuff. Just the gameplay alone of ME in a full remake would’ve caused a split.
On the topic of Miranda, since some are fearing they’d also change her model, Liana Ruppert is the one that is covering the LE for Game Informer, and she said here that they aren’t, and that the updated camera shot, while not focusing on her butt, would still show it, only without focusing on it but on her entire model.
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Post by Croatsky on Feb 7, 2021 10:44:27 GMT
We should keep in mind that there are a lot of people that played the trilogy back then and can’t right now (PS5) or can, but without mods to enhance the admittedly outdated graphics (Series X/S). And the same thing was true in last gen. PC players are just a part of the old fanbase, so it’s normal that, while for them a remaster might not be appealing (although I saw PC players that want to buy it), for console players a remaster is more appealing. Plus, the LE, if successful, could bring a new influx of players that didn’t play the trilogy or BioWare games in, so that the audience for their next games is increased. Given enough time and resources, I think a remake would’ve been better, but I also think that it’d have caused a lot of complaints also, based on the likely decision to change stuff. Just the gameplay alone of ME in a full remake would’ve caused a split. Thing is, it's less about is there public interest for MET remake, it's a big issue of BioWare OG team not wanting to do it at all. Hell they seem to have been pressured by EA to do the Remaster, despite heavy fan interest for remaster for years. On the topic of Miranda, since some are fearing they’d also change her model, Liana Ruppert is the one that is covering the LE for Game Informer, and she said here that they aren’t, and that the updated camera shot, while not focusing on her butt, would still show it, only without focusing on it but on her entire model. LMAO, after all of this drama we will STILL see her ass in that scene. There just won't be a heavy focus on it.
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Post by The Elder King on Feb 7, 2021 10:47:51 GMT
I think the problem for BioWare, in wanting to do a remaster (if that’s case, as I don’t recall reading about this), could be related to two different issues: first, the fact that they don’t have a lot of manpower available (which is way a lot of work is being outsourced); and second, that they likely know that criticism about the endings, among other things, will likely resurface around and after release.
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Post by ClarkKent on Feb 7, 2021 10:57:49 GMT
I didn't like Miranda's butt shot, because it's not a choice, just like Hawke staring after Isabela after their first meeting. The moment denies me the option to play my Shepard as a respectful professional who adheres to the venerable guideline of "Dienst ist Dienst und Schnaps ist Schnaps". I would be fine with it if it was an option that the player can pick or not, and I would be fine if that option would be available towards male NPCs too. But since BioWare has evolved now, I will be curious to see if the Femshep/James "seduction" in the Citadel DLC remains untouched, where Femshep basically encourages James to get drunk enough to bang her. Totally not awkward and really wouldn't be a problem at all if their genders were reversed and male Shep getting a girl drunk enough to boink her. We'll see. I also wonder about the fate of Khalisah al-Jilani quest("I've had enough of your snide insinuations"). Going around punching female reporters for laughs seems like something that might not age well.
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Post by Croatsky on Feb 7, 2021 11:02:04 GMT
I also wonder about the fate of Khalisah al-Jilani quest("I've had enough of your snide insinuations"). Going around punching female reporters for laughs seems like something that might not age well. It did not age well at all, after last 4 years of an Orange fash administration.
And she didn't even ask that tough nor provocative question, it's like Jesus! Are people really that easily angered? What am I saying, yes that is the case.
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Post by ClarkKent on Feb 7, 2021 11:08:11 GMT
I also wonder about the fate of Khalisah al-Jilani quest("I've had enough of your snide insinuations"). Going around punching female reporters for laughs seems like something that might not age well. It did not age well at all, after last 4 years of an Orange fash administration.
And she didn't even ask that tough nor provocative question, it's like Jesus! Are people really that easily angered? What am I saying, yes that is the case.
Yeah, I always answer her questions because I'm a good egg.
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Post by The Elder King on Feb 7, 2021 11:13:06 GMT
I mean, making her look dumb in front of the camera and all of her viewers always seemed far more appealing to me then ‘losing patience’ and punching her, so I never used that option. Other then the problems of that particular choice, it seemed to me that it made Shepard looks like an idiot incapable of countering her point. There are plenty of Renegade interrupts across ME2 that were far better and made more sense.
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Post by Croatsky on Feb 7, 2021 11:20:12 GMT
I mean, making her look dumb in front of the camera and all of her viewers always seemed far more appealing to me then ‘losing patience’ and punching her, so I never used that option. Other then the problems of that particular choice, it seemed to me that it made Shepard looks like an idiot incapable of countering her point. There are plenty of Renegade interrupts across ME2 that were far better and made more sense. By far my favorite in the series.
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Post by The Elder King on Feb 7, 2021 11:23:48 GMT
I mean, making her look dumb in front of the camera and all of her viewers always seemed far more appealing to me then ‘losing patience’ and punching her, so I never used that option. Other then the problems of that particular choice, it seemed to me that it made Shepard looks like an idiot incapable of countering her point. There are plenty of Renegade interrupts across ME2 that were far better and made more sense. By far my favorite in the series.
There were a couple more I quite liked, but yeah, that’s definitely among the best.
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Post by Gileadan on Feb 7, 2021 11:27:10 GMT
I didn't like Miranda's butt shot, because it's not a choice, just like Hawke staring after Isabela after their first meeting. The moment denies me the option to play my Shepard as a respectful professional who adheres to the venerable guideline of "Dienst ist Dienst und Schnaps ist Schnaps". I would be fine with it if it was an option that the player can pick or not, and I would be fine if that option would be available towards male NPCs too. But since BioWare has evolved now, I will be curious to see if the Femshep/James "seduction" in the Citadel DLC remains untouched, where Femshep basically encourages James to get drunk enough to bang her. Totally not awkward and really wouldn't be a problem at all if their genders were reversed and male Shep getting a girl drunk enough to boink her. We'll see. I also wonder about the fate of Khalisah al-Jilani quest("I've had enough of your snide insinuations"). Going around punching female reporters for laughs seems like something that might not age well. One would hope so, because I'd say that an actual punch from a professional soldier inflicts way more harm than a glance at someone's derrière. None of my Shepards ever punched her, but at least it was a choice.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 7, 2021 11:33:56 GMT
For those inevitable bad feels. You'll get through it again. Ah, okay. Almost got me hopeful there for a minute. And Eh, compared to the terrible shit they are pulling now like with DA4 and almost certainly ME5 this one pales in comparison. Though watch them manage to ruin that too, like ME5 being a Shepard sequel but canonizing Shepard as just being the worst person towards her.
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