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Post by smilesja on Feb 7, 2021 19:28:31 GMT
Because her looks are part of her persona. And it makes sense to showcase it, in any conversation. Miranda's looks, past and personality are all interwoven, through narrative, into one. It all works together, or it falls apart. Without the sexualized shots, the point of her being this super beautiful, super attractive, irresistible woman that all men would want, falls flat. And, in a sense, saying you've moved on from that depiction of her body, means you've moved on from Miranda, meaning you no longer, as a creator, approve of your own creation. Which also spits in the face of her fans. At least, that's how it comes across to me and others I talked to. Because Mac made a point exactly that he "evolved" past it. And maybe it is a single show and it doesn't matter much, but in Mac saying it, it behooves a response. Had Mac never said a word about it, as I said earlier, this would have been a comparison video in some nobody's channel, a few weeks or months after the LE release, that nobody would have given two shits about. If looks are part of her personality then what does her ass have to do with talking about her sister possibly being discovered by her dip shit father and forcibly taken back to become his little puppet?
Since when is Miranda irresistible? Also having a character's entire personality be based around her ass seems a wee bit insensitive to women. The idea is more based on the masturbation fantasies of men rather then women. Considering our first introduction to Miranda was her blowing away someone showing what a hard ass she was to suddenly being all about her ass and figure while literally talking about her sister being taken away. Which is a very important and personal event central to her character development is pretty fucked up.
That is literally the kind of stuff that Zapp Brannigan would write.
Can we drop the butt wars please? XD
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Post by vonuber on Feb 7, 2021 19:28:39 GMT
Christ can we all just move on from Buttgate already. This nontroversy was fun for a while, but JEEEZ, make it stop already! It's just like the old days on BSN. What did you do during the Great BSN War, Daddy?
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Post by smilesja on Feb 7, 2021 19:34:46 GMT
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Post by The Elder King on Feb 7, 2021 19:43:27 GMT
I can’t see my video in my country, apparently, what is it?
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Post by ahglock on Feb 7, 2021 19:46:05 GMT
I can’t see my video in my country, apparently, what is it? Just the the opening song from the OST for Apocalypse now.
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Post by Abramsrunner on Feb 7, 2021 19:46:34 GMT
I haven't read into this whole "Miranda Buttgate", it reeks of baiting people with ad hominem attacks based on them being "immature", while no real discussion is actually being done, only beratement. Also did a "games journalist" start this mess? If so y'all need to stop listening to them, they just divide game communities for clicks.
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Post by smilesja on Feb 7, 2021 19:56:33 GMT
I haven't read into this whole "Miranda Buttgate", it reeks of baiting people with ad hominem attacks based on them being "immature", while no real discussion is actually being done, only beratement. Also did a "games journalist" start this mess? If so y'all need to stop listening to them, they just divide game communities for clicks. It was actually started folks here. XD
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Post by N7Pathfinder on Feb 7, 2021 20:00:41 GMT
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Post by Psychevore on Feb 7, 2021 20:22:38 GMT
I haven't read into this whole "Miranda Buttgate", it reeks of baiting people with ad hominem attacks based on them being "immature", while no real discussion is actually being done, only beratement. Also did a "games journalist" start this mess? If so y'all need to stop listening to them, they just divide game communities for clicks. Nah, that's not how this went.
It was mentioned the shot was changed. Capital G Gamers assumed this meant everything, from Miranda having to go through the whole of Mass Effect without any ass whatsoever, to that she would be replaced with an entirely different, completely sexless model. Both would obviously mean the anticipated 4K fapfest could not happen and the Gamers would have none of that.
Turns out, the ass is still in the game and nothing is changed about Miranda.
Basically, as usual, Gamers scared themselves then threw a temper tantrum lasting for days.
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Post by smilesja on Feb 7, 2021 20:53:45 GMT
I haven't read into this whole "Miranda Buttgate", it reeks of baiting people with ad hominem attacks based on them being "immature", while no real discussion is actually being done, only beratement. Also did a "games journalist" start this mess? If so y'all need to stop listening to them, they just divide game communities for clicks. Nah, that's not how this went.
It was mentioned the shot was changed. Capital G Gamers assumed this meant everything, from Miranda having to go through the whole of Mass Effect without any ass whatsoever, to that she would be replaced with an entirely different, completely sexless model. Both would obviously mean the anticipated 4K fapfest could not happen and the Gamers would have none of that.
Turns out, the ass is still in the game and nothing is changed about Miranda.
Basically, as usual, Gamers scared themselves then threw a temper tantrum lasting for days.
Aren't we all gamers here? And besides don't we at BSN keep gushing over sexiness of characters?
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Post by QuizzyBunny on Feb 7, 2021 20:54:06 GMT
So, any other news? Anyone with any info that will help me make a decision for PC or console? Speaking of, what kind of mods can you get for ME (I loved the story mods I found for DAO but I guess there aren't as many for ME).
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Post by smilesja on Feb 7, 2021 20:55:26 GMT
So, any other news? Anyone with any info that will help me make a decision for PC or console? Speaking of, what kind of mods can you get for ME (I loved the story mods I found for DAO but I guess there aren't as many for ME). Doesn't looks like there'll be any mods.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Feb 7, 2021 20:58:46 GMT
So, any other news? Anyone with any info that will help me make a decision for PC or console? Speaking of, what kind of mods can you get for ME (I loved the story mods I found for DAO but I guess there aren't as many for ME). You may have to wait a few years for any mods. (That is, IF they'll even work on the LE).
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Post by Croatsky on Feb 7, 2021 20:58:47 GMT
So, any other news? Anyone with any info that will help me make a decision for PC or console? Speaking of, what kind of mods can you get for ME (I loved the story mods I found for DAO but I guess there aren't as many for ME). We don't know what sort of mod support or mod tools will be for MELE yet. We have to wait for news on that one.
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Post by The Elder King on Feb 7, 2021 21:00:22 GMT
Mac Walters said they’re talking/talked with modders, but someone tweeted that he doesn’t know anyone that was talked to, although NDAs could be in place. He said they’ll release more info on that topic on release, so if the choice is between PC and console, considering you can also play on the former with a controller, if you like that, I’d go for that.
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Post by phaedon on Feb 7, 2021 21:05:15 GMT
So, any other news? Anyone with any info that will help me make a decision for PC or console? Speaking of, what kind of mods can you get for ME (I loved the story mods I found for DAO but I guess there aren't as many for ME). There are no news today, but you can check the Known Features doc for a compilation of what we know so far.
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Post by QuizzyBunny on Feb 7, 2021 21:06:09 GMT
I'm just a bit anxious when people say controller support, it wouldn't be the first time that happened and it's absolute shit. My PC id def good enough to run MELE, and if I could add some mods it would be even more attractive to do so, but I just can't play shooters comfortably without a good controller. But thanks for the head's up, feel free to ping me here if they say anything more on the topic.
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Post by NotN7 on Feb 7, 2021 21:17:56 GMT
So, any other news? Anyone with any info that will help me make a decision for PC or console? Speaking of, what kind of mods can you get for ME (I loved the story mods I found for DAO but I guess there aren't as many for ME). There will be mods but the modder's need to see the changes to the the game before they can do anything least in my mind but time will tell
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Post by Croatsky on Feb 7, 2021 21:21:03 GMT
I'm just a bit anxious when people say controller support, it wouldn't be the first time that happened and it's absolute shit. My PC id def good enough to run MELE, and if I could add some mods it would be even more attractive to do so, but I just can't play shooters comfortably without a good controller. But thanks for the head's up, feel free to ping me here if they say anything more on the topic. Mass Effect Andromeda has pretty good controller support and it will likely be based on that.
I mean, MET was made in consoles in mind first. ME1 came on X360 first, while 3rd party studio ported it on PC year later. In fact ME2 and ME3 on PC suffered from poor keyboard and mouse support, as there were quite a few universal command keys. The worst being in ME3 when you had sprint, cover, cover fault, interaction and rolling on same button! Yet BioWare refused to give controller support on PC.
This was corrected in MEA, with no more universal command keys and controller support.
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Post by QuizzyBunny on Feb 7, 2021 21:29:47 GMT
I'm taking all of this as the BSN supporting me getting it on PC rather than console.
Just hope it's not just the xbox-controller, I much prefer the playstation one...
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Post by vonuber on Feb 7, 2021 21:33:38 GMT
It's PC for me everytime.
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Post by Croatsky on Feb 7, 2021 21:35:58 GMT
I'm taking all of this as the BSN supporting me getting it on PC rather than console. Just hope it's not just the xbox-controller, I much prefer the playstation one... Ah, I have no idea does it support PS controller. You should check does MEA on PC has PS controller support, instead of just XBOX.
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Post by colfoley on Feb 7, 2021 21:40:43 GMT
I think my platform of choice is already well known.
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Post by Psychevore on Feb 7, 2021 21:47:05 GMT
Nah, that's not how this went.
It was mentioned the shot was changed. Capital G Gamers assumed this meant everything, from Miranda having to go through the whole of Mass Effect without any ass whatsoever, to that she would be replaced with an entirely different, completely sexless model. Both would obviously mean the anticipated 4K fapfest could not happen and the Gamers would have none of that.
Turns out, the ass is still in the game and nothing is changed about Miranda.
Basically, as usual, Gamers scared themselves then threw a temper tantrum lasting for days.
Aren't we all gamers here? And besides don't we at BSN keep gushing over sexiness of characters? We're all gamers. We're not all Gamers though.
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