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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2021 21:02:15 GMT
On the off chance anyone here likes Resident Alien, made another gif.
Loved his Good Cop/Bad Cop routine.
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Post by SirSourpuss on May 20, 2021 23:20:10 GMT
Tried to watch Blood of Zeus. Episode 1 is great, 2 and 3 are good too, episode 4 terrible and I can't even make it past half of episode 5. Watched episode Datalore of Star Trek TNG, instead. Reached the point where Data goes to confront Lore, alongside Wesley and Beverly, I think to myself it's great that we're only at the 20 minute mark of the episode. Episode ends in the next 3 minutes. Trek made 40 minutes go by like 20 and Blood of Zeus made 10 minutes look like an eternity. Blood of Zeus is not good television.
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Post by Obsidian Gryphon on May 21, 2021 11:59:26 GMT
Watching Reunited Worlds (Fantasy) Hae-sung was a 19 year old college student, living with his grandma, two young sisters and two young brothers in 2005. On his birthday, wanting to give him a surprise party with his family, his girlfriend Jung-won asked him to retrieve her wallet at the school art room. He witnessed a crime and hurried out of the school to report it but was hit by a car and died. 12 years later, he woke up and found himself back at his school. It was 2017 and everything had changed, including himself. He found he could heal quickly, stronger and oddly, electronic devices would not work properly when he tried to use them. He encountered an older man who seemed to be in the same state as he was. He set about to find out the real culprit of the crime and to help his scattered family members. I'm in ep 4 presently. While fascinating, I find it extremely irritating the writers deliberately left out the exploration of his mysterious return which I know they'll only dribble in somewhere in the middle of the drama. The first thing anyone would ask when they meet someone who has the same abilities is; what am I? who am I? How did I become like this? The protag didn't ask any of those questions. Instead, it's meandering conversation about other stuff.
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Post by SirSourpuss on May 21, 2021 18:52:59 GMT
I grudgingly finished Blood of Zeus and then indulged myself in some of my favourite, lighthearted, fun, trash I know; DC's Legends of Tomorrow. This show is so bad and I love it.
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Post by skekSil on May 21, 2021 21:02:11 GMT
Farscape. Delvians are OG Asari apparently: Embrace Eternity! Also Zhaan killed some dude during their 'melding' so she is a prototypical Ardat-Yakshi.
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Post by Energizer Bunny 211 on May 22, 2021 13:57:36 GMT
Started Season 2 of "THE EXPANSE".....This show just got better! Season One was really good, thoroughly enjoyed it once I got into it....And Season Two just made things far more interesting by upping the stakes and the ante, showing us the perspective of Mars. Season One began to make Mars out to be the Boogey Man, with the Outer Planets Alliance effectively being shrugged off as "terrorists", and Earth was the victim (maybe they still are....but, they've done their shady s--- too), and I don't think that Earth is as innocent in everything as they make out to be. Plus, now getting the proper glimpse of Mars' perspective you begin to understand their side of the story.
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Post by SirSourpuss on May 22, 2021 18:12:58 GMT
Farscape. Delvians are OG Asari apparently: Embrace Eternity! Also Zhaan killed some dude during their 'melding' so she is a prototypical Ardat-Yakshi. Farscape is my favourite Space show, outside of Trek. More than BSG? More than SG? Yup! You bet. And a lot of my interest went away when Virginia Hey had to quit the show. The show was still fun, though. Loved my boy, Scorpi.
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Post by skekSil on May 22, 2021 22:18:10 GMT
Farscape is my favourite Space show, outside of Trek. More than BSG? More than SG? Yup! You bet. And a lot of my interest went away when Virginia Hey had to quit the show. The show was still fun, though. Loved my boy, Scorpi. Im more of a B5 fan myself but Farscape is definitely in my top 5. Could have been better without Crichton's grimaces, mental breakdowns and pop-culture jokes no one understands. P.S. Dont forget the magnificent Hynerian bastard, he deserved more screentime. P.P.S. Never noticed this before but they sometimes use soundbites from Heroes of Might and Magic in their soundtrack.
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Post by SirSourpuss on May 22, 2021 22:32:29 GMT
Im more of a B5 fan myself but Farscape is definitely in my top 5. Could have been better without Crichton's grimaces, mental breakdowns and pop-culture jokes no one understands. P.S. Dont forget the magnificent Hynerian bastard, he deserved more screentime. B5 is definitely up there. I remember it as the "better" version of DS9, to be honest, but haven't given it a rewatch since forever. I am looking forward to the HD remaster getting on something other than Amazon.
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Post by AnDromedary on May 23, 2021 4:26:35 GMT
Farscape was definitely a very cool show. But it did go into crazy town a little too often for my tastes.
As for B5 vs. DS9, they both have their strengths and weaknesses IMO. B5 is somewhat more vibrant but also more soapy at times. As a SciFi fan, one should have seen all of them of course.
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Post by Obsidian Gryphon on May 23, 2021 9:33:24 GMT
Finished Reunited Worlds. Watching Awaken. It's a action, thriller, mystery drama but I'm already within eight mins after the "mysterious" opening which depicted the massacre of an entire village. The eight minute mark jumped to Seoul 28 years later on a police car chase. Thing is, the cops were chasing three 10-wheel goods trucks which are heavier and bigger than cars so no one sane would even think of using a car to overtake and block nor put themselves right in the middle of two goods trucks but that's what happened in the car chase scene. I when the detective exhorted the police driver to drive faster and overtake and the officer promptly landed them in the middle of two trucks. Naturally, the criminals tried to crush the car between them. This is a moronic car chase. Who bloody wrote the script?? Moreover, the police officers at the road block failed to take into account plausible consequences so of course in a "dramatic" moment, one of the trucks veered (because the hero cop shot out one of the tyres) in the direction of students coming out of a library. "Fortunately", nothing happened. The cops then waited politely for the criminal in the first truck to climb out instead of dashing over the minute the truck stopped moving. They're very courteous. Of course they never managed to catch up to him in time to stop him from taking a student hostage. I would fail that lot of police officers and detectives and send them back to the academy. Actually, I would fail the writers. ... stupid script. I wish the writers would have some sense to write a realistic car chase and police procedures / actions. They should watch such chases on YT. It's frightening to watch criminals driving crazily and recklessly on the freeways before they almost killed someone / people or themselves when they rammed into trailer-trucks, etc. They could take a knowledge leaf from the writer and producer of Hospital Playlist in creating realistic scenarios and portrayal.
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Post by Obsidian Gryphon on May 23, 2021 11:05:30 GMT
I don't know if I could watch Awaken (it's a Netflix supported kdrama) till the end. The detectives were sent to prevent a death. When their suspected target victim went swimming, they just stood and stared from the stairs several metres away. When he failed to move and started floating, they still stood there and stared. The guy in charge then casually told his colleague; hey, go and check, after the floating went on for several seconds. It doesn't help immersion / involvement when viewers are wondering if the characters are that stupid and inept. -1000 for the writers, producers and director. Edit. Geez, this show is trying my patience. If you're looking for someone and that someone is involved in another victim case albeit coincidentally and shows up in front of you, the logical thing is to talk to her. Instead, the protag stood there and stared. The cops didn't even try to talk to her and ask questions as to why she was chasing the victim. They saw her running after the guy! They just let her walk away. So far, the only part I like is when the greenhorn cop was tested on his observation skills which he failed.
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Post by Energizer Bunny 211 on May 23, 2021 12:23:20 GMT
To be honest, the only crime-based drama that has gotten the whole thing nearly exactly accurate is the Original LAW & ORDER, in terms of everything the cops and lawyers both have to deal with and go through to solve a case. That is what that show is really known for, how accurate it is to the 'procedural' goings on, and I don't know about the spin-offs like SVU I don't like those shows, never watched them. But the original L&O with Sam Waterston, Jesse L. Martin, Paul Sorvino, Steven Hill, Jerry Orbach, Jill Hennessey et al. was the best, and it really showed all the steps involved. And sometimes they won, sometimes they lost. But even if they lost their case, they dealt with it and moved on.
Most movies, tv shows these days miss a lot, cut out a lot and 'sensationalize' even more. And the cops (or Lawyers) always nail their guy. STuff these days never shows what happens if they cops/lawyers lose their case, there's never any consequence or 'after the fact'.
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Post by Obsidian Gryphon on May 23, 2021 12:50:53 GMT
To be honest, the only crime-based drama that has gotten the whole thing nearly exactly accurate is the Original LAW & ORDER, in terms of everything the cops and lawyers both have to deal with and go through to solve a case. That is what that show is really known for, how accurate it is to the 'procedural' goings on, and I don't know about the spin-offs like SVU I don't like those shows, never watched them. But the original L&O with Sam Waterston, Jesse L. Martin, Paul Sorvino, Steven Hill, Jerry Orbach, Jill Hennessey et al. was the best, and it really showed all the steps involved. And sometimes they won, sometimes they lost. But even if they lost their case, they dealt with it and moved on. Most movies, tv shows these days miss a lot, cut out a lot and 'sensationalize' even more. And the cops (or Lawyers) always nail their guy. STuff these days never shows what happens if they cops/lawyers lose their case, there's never any consequence or 'after the fact'. Sadly, I didn't have the time to watch tv shows back then so I missed Law and Order. I wouldn't mind the sensationalize stuff if the writers keep the narrative and character interactions logical but some, like those who wrote for Awaken, don't subscribe to logic. They deliberately ignore the logical chain of events / responses / reactions just to drag out the story. It's poor writing and story telling.
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Post by Obsidian Gryphon on May 24, 2021 5:06:58 GMT
I skipped the rest of the eps of Awaken and went to the last ep where everything was resolved. It went as I suspected. Nothing new on the cause of the "mysterious" massacre of the village. It's just another experiment science stuff where the bad guys want to live forever.
Watching My ID is Gangnam Beauty. Story of a junior university student who went through cosmetic procedures / plastic surgery. She made the decision to do it after suffering years of bullying from her classmates for being fat and ugly. She slimmed down in her teens but the unkind remarks and bullying did not stop. Hence, she had her facial features corrected as she wanted to experience happy student days at the university. Her empathetic mother supported her decision.
However, her surgery was no secret and news spread through the campus. Some students mocked her while others looked down on her, especially the seniors who only wished to make use of her for their own ends. Fortunately, she had a close friend who's attending the same university as she and provided much support and protection.
The drama explored the emphasis that society places on appearances and about the true meaning of happiness and beauty.
Special note about this drama. Lee Young-ae made a special appearance. I nearly missed it or rather, I didn't realise it's her. It's being years since I last saw her which was Dae Jang Geum or Jewel in the Palace in 2004 and Lady Vengeance (2005). She halted her career after she got married and has children. She's making a slow come back by appearing for cameos and a short tv drama but she has a drama to film this year so I hope to catch that.
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Post by SirSourpuss on May 24, 2021 15:11:36 GMT
Oh man ... giving STD (what a name) a try. So in the first 5 minutes, Michelle Yeoh and Mikey Burnham are stranded on a desert planet and are cut off from communicating with the Discovery, due to atmospheric interference. Michelle Yeoh's solution to this is to walk in a Starfleet logo pattern, over a small area of an entire planet, during a sandstorm, that not only should blow their tracks away, buy also obscure the pattern from any visual scans from the Discovery and since it is no unnatural man made structure, would also not register in the Discovery's sensors. Nevertheless, this ~2 city blocks pattern is picked up by the Discovery and they are rescued. Did I mention we are just five minutes in, folks? I'm not even going to make a fuss about the KlingOrcs. I can do it, I can get through one episode of STD. The things I do to get my Michelle Yeoh and Jason Isaacs fix.
Correction, we are currently on the Shenzou, not the Discovery. My bad.
Wow ... the Shenzou's interior is looking very ... updated. Are we sure this is supposed to be in the pre-TOS era? It's making even the Prometheus, the experimental Starfleet ship from Voyager look outdated. And I'm not just saying that because we dodged Andy Dick.
Alright, so we're doing the "human raised by vulkans" thing for a third time, after doing it with Spock in the movies, Spock in the JJ movies and now with Mikey. That's original. Fine, I guess.
Oh, right. I forgot that by the time of TOS, Klingons had not been seen for a hundred years. Well, that was bullshit, I guess.
Hey, waaaaaaait! Klingons did not have cloaking tech that far back.
The beacons are lit. Gondor calls for aid! Why exactly would the Klingons set up a beacon, in an empty part of space that nobody would be able to see? I mean, I know it's the future, but give me a beak, nobody is going to detect a flare, that's hundreds of light years away and think "oh shit, the light of Kahless, time to go to war". You'd think the Klingons would have a better way to go to war, than this. Do you think it'd even be visible all the way on the other side of the Alpha Quadrant? This bothers me, so fucking much, goddamn!
Great, we're crying now. That's fantastic. And Mikey Burnham just committed mutiny. Are we fucking serious? So much for being logical, eh Mikey? Well, there's no way she's getting out of this one.
So Mikey Burnham committed mutiny for no reason. And the Klingons started an invasion with 15 ships. That's ... uhhhh, pretty pointless.
Episode 2. Wow, Mikey is behaving like a prick, for no reason. Mikey is a sociopath. It all makes sense now. Understandable, considering ... wait, if nobody has seen the Klingons in 100 years, how did the Klingons blow up Mikey Burnham's colony 20 years ago? Guess that was bullshit too, huh? So the show wasn't even consistent with its own canon for its premiere episode? I didn't know it was possible to fuck up that soon.
Klingon ships are up to 24 now, because 24 Klingon houses. Still pathetic. That's a skirmish, not a war.
That's not how the containment field works! Mikey should be dead! The whole jail was depressurized and half of the containment field, alongside her jail cell, got blown out! WHAT THE FUCK!!!!
We've jumped the Shark! We're in the first 15 minutes of episode 2 and we've jumped the shark! Mikey Burnham is mind melding with Sarek from across the quadrant! Partial absorption of a Vulkan's Katra has never happened before, nor does it explain why it would make that mind meld possibly, nor how Mikey Burnham was able to do it in the first place! We're achieving Batwoman levels of bad, but Batwoman at least waited till her crossover episode to be this bad! What's going on!? Sarek ... what the fuck, dude? Apparently, Mikey isn't the only person that Sarek deposited his "Katra" to, since, as he states, it wears on him physically, when he does it this long range mind meld, meaning he's done that before and to other people. So over the years, Sarek just up and implants his consciousness to various people without their knowledge. Sarek is a creep and a pervert.
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Post by regack on May 24, 2021 15:44:19 GMT
Oh man ... giving STD (what a name) a try. So in the first 5 minutes, Michelle Yeoh and Mikey Burnham are stranded on a desert planet and are cut off from communicating with the Discovery, due to atmospheric interference. Michelle Yeoh's solution to this is to walk in a Starfleet logo pattern, over a small area of an entire planet, during a sandstorm, that not only should blow their tracks away, buy also obscure the pattern from any visual scans from the Discovery and since it is no unnatural man made structure, would also not register in the Discovery's sensors. Nevertheless, this ~2 city blocks pattern is picked up by the Discovery and they are rescued. Did I mention we are just five minutes in, folks? I'm not even going to make a fuss about the KlingOrcs. I can do it, I can get through one episode of STD. The things I do to get my Michelle Yeoh and Jason Isaacs fix. Correction, we are currently on the Shenzou, not the Discovery. My bad. Wow ... the Shenzou's interior is looking very ... updated. Are we sure this is supposed to be in the pre-TOS era? It's making even the Prometheus, the experimental Starfleet ship from Voyager look outdated. And I'm not just saying that because we dodged Andy Dick. Alright, so we're doing the "human raised by vulkans" thing for a third time, after doing it with Spock in the movies, Spock in the JJ movies and now with Mikey. That's original. Fine, I guess.
Good luck, if by the end of the episode, or next one you don't feel like throwing something at the screen because of random plot armor and the stupidity of every character... well... uhh... well, good luck.
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Post by SirSourpuss on May 24, 2021 17:22:47 GMT
Oh man ... giving STD (what a name) a try. So in the first 5 minutes, Michelle Yeoh and Mikey Burnham are stranded on a desert planet and are cut off from communicating with the Discovery, due to atmospheric interference. Michelle Yeoh's solution to this is to walk in a Starfleet logo pattern, over a small area of an entire planet, during a sandstorm, that not only should blow their tracks away, buy also obscure the pattern from any visual scans from the Discovery and since it is no unnatural man made structure, would also not register in the Discovery's sensors. Nevertheless, this ~2 city blocks pattern is picked up by the Discovery and they are rescued. Did I mention we are just five minutes in, folks? I'm not even going to make a fuss about the KlingOrcs. I can do it, I can get through one episode of STD. The things I do to get my Michelle Yeoh and Jason Isaacs fix. Correction, we are currently on the Shenzou, not the Discovery. My bad. Wow ... the Shenzou's interior is looking very ... updated. Are we sure this is supposed to be in the pre-TOS era? It's making even the Prometheus, the experimental Starfleet ship from Voyager look outdated. And I'm not just saying that because we dodged Andy Dick. Alright, so we're doing the "human raised by vulkans" thing for a third time, after doing it with Spock in the movies, Spock in the JJ movies and now with Mikey. That's original. Fine, I guess.
Good luck, if by the end of the episode, or next one you don't feel like throwing something at the screen because of random plot armor and the stupidity of every character... well... uhh... well, good luck. I went about 5 minutes at some point in episode 2 thinking "at least it's not as bad as episode 1". I was wrong. This is worse. So much worse. It keeps escalating. How does it keep escalating? It shouldn't be possible? Calm the fuck down, show!
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Post by regack on May 24, 2021 17:39:49 GMT
Good luck, if by the end of the episode, or next one you don't feel like throwing something at the screen because of random plot armor and the stupidity of every character... well... uhh... well, good luck. I went about 5 minutes at some point in episode 2 thinking "at least it's not as bad as episode 1". I was wrong. This is worse. So much worse. It keeps escalating. How does it keep escalating? It shouldn't be possible? Calm the fuck down, show! So, personally, I encourage you to continue watching a bit more, just because I selfishly can't wait to see your further reaction to this statement... Alright, so we're doing the "human raised by vulkans" thing for a third time, after doing it with Spock in the movies, Spock in the JJ movies and now with Mikey. That's original. Fine, I guess. Because it does get even more... "interesting"
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Post by SirSourpuss on May 24, 2021 18:44:57 GMT
I went about 5 minutes at some point in episode 2 thinking "at least it's not as bad as episode 1". I was wrong. This is worse. So much worse. It keeps escalating. How does it keep escalating? It shouldn't be possible? Calm the fuck down, show! So, personally, I encourage you to continue watching a bit more, just because I selfishly can't wait to see your further reaction to this statement... Alright, so we're doing the "human raised by vulkans" thing for a third time, after doing it with Spock in the movies, Spock in the JJ movies and now with Mikey. That's original. Fine, I guess. Because it does get even more... "interesting" I know I'm not the nicest person, but do I really deserve this? It makes Legends of Tomorrow look like quality TV. I mean, the production values are high. Ridiculously high, for something so badly written. But the writing. The show invalidates itself in its first episode. They couldn't keep consistency for 40 minutes. In the 2nd episode, they turn Mikey into a prick. Sarek into a mind rapist. The orcs, I mean the Klingons, invade Starfleet space with 24 ships. They turn on the bat signal to start wars. The fuck is going on? It's ridiculous! I remember when I use to watch Trek for smart writing. Like, last week, when I was still watching DS9. I heard that season 4 got a rewrite, to be more like good Trek. I'm seriously hoping they can turn things around. I'm going to soldier through STD. I might even feel brave enough to watch Picard after it (oof), but my expectations for Kurtzman Trek are ... I'd say low, but somehow that feels way too damn high.
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Post by regack on May 24, 2021 19:07:52 GMT
So, personally, I encourage you to continue watching a bit more, just because I selfishly can't wait to see your further reaction to this statement... Because it does get even more... "interesting" I know I'm not the nicest person, but do I really deserve this? It makes Legends of Tomorrow look like quality TV. I mean, the production values are high. Ridiculously high, for something so badly written. But the writing. The show invalidates itself in its first episode. They couldn't keep consistency for 40 minutes. In the 2nd episode, they turn Mikey into a prick. Sarek into a mind rapist. The orcs, I mean the Klingons, invade Starfleet space with 24 ships. They turn on the bat signal to start wars. The fuck is going on? It's ridiculous! I remember when I use to watch Trek for smart writing. Like, last week, when I was still watching DS9. I heard that season 4 got a rewrite, to be more like good Trek. I'm seriously hoping they can turn things around. I'm going to soldier through STD. I might even feel brave enough to watch Picard after it (oof), but my expectations for Kurtzman Trek are ... I'd say low, but somehow that feels way too damn high.
No, I don't want to subject you to something objectionable, but I kind of want to see your reaction to the backstory stuff you learn in episode 6, although I fear you might suffer physically from the experience. So, to be fair, I never finished the first season, I just lost the ability to maintain any kind of suspension of disbelief that would allow me to continue watching this thing that was somehow supposed to be connected in any way to Star Trek. I still kinda want to finish it out and see, but ... eh, I've got other things to do. I liked the first episode of Picard better, but I've only seen the one. At least it didn't make me want to throw things at the tv the way STD did. Of recent Trek things, what I actually liked was the cartoon: Lower Decks.
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Post by SirSourpuss on May 24, 2021 20:05:02 GMT
I know I'm not the nicest person, but do I really deserve this? It makes Legends of Tomorrow look like quality TV. I mean, the production values are high. Ridiculously high, for something so badly written. But the writing. The show invalidates itself in its first episode. They couldn't keep consistency for 40 minutes. In the 2nd episode, they turn Mikey into a prick. Sarek into a mind rapist. The orcs, I mean the Klingons, invade Starfleet space with 24 ships. They turn on the bat signal to start wars. The fuck is going on? It's ridiculous! I remember when I use to watch Trek for smart writing. Like, last week, when I was still watching DS9. I heard that season 4 got a rewrite, to be more like good Trek. I'm seriously hoping they can turn things around. I'm going to soldier through STD. I might even feel brave enough to watch Picard after it (oof), but my expectations for Kurtzman Trek are ... I'd say low, but somehow that feels way too damn high.
No, I don't want to subject you to something objectionable, but I kind of want to see your reaction to the backstory stuff you learn in episode 6, although I fear you might suffer physically from the experience. So, to be fair, I never finished the first season, I just lost the ability to maintain any kind of suspension of disbelief that would allow me to continue watching this thing that was somehow supposed to be connected in any way to Star Trek. I still kinda want to finish it out and see, but ... eh, I've got other things to do. I liked the first episode of Picard better, but I've only seen the one. At least it didn't make me want to throw things at the tv the way STD did. Of recent Trek things, what I actually liked was the cartoon: Lower Decks. To be honest, I want to get through it. I keep saying how bad it is, from the summaries and reviews I've watched and read, but I owe it to the show to watch it, to see for myself the ridiculousness of the script. It's a shame, because the cast is doing its best, with the material it's been given. At least, so far. But the material is so bad!
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Post by regack on May 24, 2021 21:43:07 GMT
To be honest, I want to get through it. I keep saying how bad it is, from the summaries and reviews I've watched and read, but I owe it to the show to watch it, to see for myself the ridiculousness of the script. It's a shame, because the cast is doing its best, with the material it's been given. At least, so far. But the material is so bad! It's also visually stunning at times... anyway, I understand and I feel your pain.
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Post by SirSourpuss on May 24, 2021 22:14:33 GMT
To be honest, I want to get through it. I keep saying how bad it is, from the summaries and reviews I've watched and read, but I owe it to the show to watch it, to see for myself the ridiculousness of the script. It's a shame, because the cast is doing its best, with the material it's been given. At least, so far. But the material is so bad! It's also visually stunning at times... anyway, I understand and I feel your pain. So far, season 1 looks absolutely gorgeous. As good as the 2010 Trek movie, in terms of production value. It looks more like a movie than a TV show. Everything about it is stunning.
But the writing! They try to hit you with so many curve balls, none of which makes any sense, to distract you from the fact that none of these make sense. But I notice. Like, some of these may take me 5 minutes to register, but my brain processes them. Not to mention the blatant plagiarism. The orcs, the beacon, the albino orc. You'd think Kurtzman wanted to make Lord of the Rings, instead. In real Trek, T'kuvma would challenge a couple of lower house leaders in his quest for holy war, gain influence and power in the Empire then either make a move on the Chancelor himself, or through public sentiment, get the Chancelor to agree to the war. Then they'd go to battle carrying the Light of Kahless, at best, if not just light it symbolically, at the start of the war and leave it back on Qo'noS, where it would be safe. They wouldn't risk it at the start of the war. It would be used to be paraded, at the end of the war, should the Klingons prove victorious, or used as a rallying banner, if the Klingons are losing the war.
Not to mention that the entire war starts because the Federation says "we come in Peace" and T'Kuvma decided that the Federation was lying. And everyone just went along, when maybe 1 day earlier, nobody in the entire Klingon Empire had any real beef with the Federation. No challenges, no proof, not even perceived slights reported from the Federation's side. Just one guy saying "they're liars". Meanwhile, on this flimsy premise, the Klingon Empire disregards any cost this war may have on them, or how other factions may exploit it against them. Like the Cardassians, or the Romulans, or the Breen. It's almost like whoever wrote this has the understanding of politics of a 5 year old. And I may be discrediting quite a few 5 year olds, by saying that.
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Post by Obsidian Gryphon on May 24, 2021 23:55:19 GMT
Wow ... the Shenzou's interior is looking very ... updated. Are we sure this is supposed to be in the pre-TOS era? It's making even the Prometheus, the experimental Starfleet ship from Voyager look outdated. And I'm not just saying that because we dodged Andy Dick. That's a common assessment. The easiest way to deal with it is this; there's no point trying to reconcile the incongruity. CBS's STD, ST Picard and other ST works do not take place in the canon timeline. Due to licensing issues with Paramount, none of the assets from Star Trek Classic (1969), STTNG, DS9, Voyager, Enterprise (2005) and Paramount's ST movies can be used. For most Star Trek fans (me included), the lore of Star Trek is split into two; Canon and Kelvin-verse. For me, Star Trek ended with Enterprise. STD and STP take place in the Kelvin-verse, the timeline of which started with the JJA Star Trek movies; Star Trek (2009), ST Into Darkness and ST Beyond. The modern looking ships, settings and lore of CBS's ST are "consistent" for the Kelvin-verse timeline. Edit. Your posts sum up what I've heard about the Kelvin-verse STs. Sure glad I didn't watch them.
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