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Post by colfoley on Dec 6, 2020 9:06:49 GMT
Taking a closer look at the above artwork again and it seems so far my probable first character has two potential love interests. Also interesting that it is the fairly standard DA divide with Rogue/ Warrior/ Mage. I was questioning if the artwork has any relevance for DA4, or was just made to rapresent Dragon Age. In this case, it makes sense to place the three different classes. But the fact that Crow Lady already appeared in concept arts before, as well as the Wardens with an hint for a Warden companion, makes it possible the artwork is connected to the next game. Yeah the inclusion of Crow lady is the biggest indication it is for the next game...which also makes the prevalance of Dark Spawn there a bit sus. I mean it makes sense on a few levels if the Darkspawn have some big impact on the next DA game...I just hope its not TOO big of an impact since the Darkspawn are kind of the least interesting thing about DA in a way for me Though weirdly enough I do like a lot of the things surrounding them. (The Blight in general, the Magisters, Corypheus, the idea of intelligent Darkspawn, etc)
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Post by gervaise21 on Dec 6, 2020 9:26:27 GMT
MAH BOI STRIFE! *ahem* Kind of interesting Patrick Weekes didn't write this one/ any of them. This makes me think that Strife is almost certainly going to feature prominently in the next game and Patrick handed him over to another writer in much the same way that DG did with Cole last game because otherwise he didn't think he could do him justice. As Lead Writer PW is going to have his hands full co-ordinating the over arching story line plus writing anything for Solas, where hopefully there will be a bit more than we had for Corypheus last game. It was also noticeable that a different person was writing the Crow story than for Tevinter Nights. Don't know if that is significant or not.
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Post by colfoley on Dec 6, 2020 9:29:56 GMT
MAH BOI STRIFE! *ahem* Kind of interesting Patrick Weekes didn't write this one/ any of them. This makes me think that Strife is almost certainly going to feature prominently in the next game and Patrick handed him over to another writer in much the same way that DG did with Cole last game because otherwise he didn't think he could do him justice. As Lead Writer PW is going to have his hands full co-ordinating the over arching story line plus writing anything for Solas, where hopefully there will be a bit more than we had for Corypheus last game. It was also noticeable that a different person was writing the Crow story than for Tevinter Nights. Don't know if that is significant or not. that last part about corypheus is 100% true.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 6, 2020 9:42:08 GMT
MAH BOI STRIFE! *ahem* Kind of interesting Patrick Weekes didn't write this one/ any of them. This makes me think that Strife is almost certainly going to feature prominently in the next game and Patrick handed him over to another writer in much the same way that DG did with Cole last game because otherwise he didn't think he could do him justice. As Lead Writer PW is going to have his hands full co-ordinating the over arching story line plus writing anything for Solas, where hopefully there will be a bit more than we had for Corypheus last game. It was also noticeable that a different person was writing the Crow story than for Tevinter Nights. Don't know if that is significant or not. Could Strife be the guy in the group shot people thought might be a Qunari? He is described as tall with silver hair, and the guy in the group shot seemed too thin for a qunari but could fit a tall elf.
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Post by The Elder King on Dec 6, 2020 9:44:50 GMT
I was questioning if the artwork has any relevance for DA4, or was just made to rapresent Dragon Age. In this case, it makes sense to place the three different classes. But the fact that Crow Lady already appeared in concept arts before, as well as the Wardens with an hint for a Warden companion, makes it possible the artwork is connected to the next game. Yeah the inclusion of Crow lady is the biggest indication it is for the next game...which also makes the prevalance of Dark Spawn there a bit sus. I mean it makes sense on a few levels if the Darkspawn have some big impact on the next DA game...I just hope its not TOO big of an impact since the Darkspawn are kind of the least interesting thing about DA in a way for me Though weirdly enough I do like a lot of the things surrounding them. (The Blight in general, the Magisters, Corypheus, the idea of intelligent Darkspawn, etc) I mean, the darkspawn alone are indeed quite boring as an enemy, but if they’re going to be featured prominently I think it’s quite likely that there’ll be something/someone else connected to them, like the Blight. They won’t just add them as a major enemy group without a big plot around them.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 6, 2020 10:12:54 GMT
Yeah the inclusion of Crow lady is the biggest indication it is for the next game...which also makes the prevalance of Dark Spawn there a bit sus. I mean it makes sense on a few levels if the Darkspawn have some big impact on the next DA game...I just hope its not TOO big of an impact since the Darkspawn are kind of the least interesting thing about DA in a way for me Though weirdly enough I do like a lot of the things surrounding them. (The Blight in general, the Magisters, Corypheus, the idea of intelligent Darkspawn, etc) I mean, the darkspawn alone are indeed quite boring as an enemy, but if they’re going to be featured prominently I think it’s quite likely that there’ll be something/someone else connected to them, like the Blight. They won’t just add them as a major enemy group without a big plot around them. They're more interesting than what the main threat in the game is going to be, which is just another crazy mage plotting to destroy the world to bring back his.
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Post by gervaise21 on Dec 6, 2020 12:21:59 GMT
Could Strife be the guy in the group shot people thought might be a Qunari? He is described as tall with silver hair, and the guy in the group shot seemed too thin for a qunari but could fit a tall elf. I must admit I hadn't thought of that one but it's possible. In which case no way he is a city elf, that guy is just too buff for that. Mind you I don't know how long he was meant to have been living with the Dalish, so he could have beefed up a bit. I notice in the latest offering the writer only mentions the Morlyn clan without actually saying they are Dalish. I've always felt that Irelin was way too proficient a shapeshifter to be Dalish. I mean I thought shapeshifting was only rarely found among modern mages, even those outside the Circle. So may be it is another group of elves with different traditions to the Dalish, may be having survived down to the present having not been captured by Tevinter. That would also account for them having this strange journal that is said to be an ancient relic. Strife certainly seemed to know a lot about the Arlathan Forest and had a reverence for Andruil in Three Trees to Midnight, which would suggest a group that did honour the Creators/Evanuris, but I've pointed out before that the Dalish are not said to go that far north.
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Post by legbamel on Dec 6, 2020 14:37:40 GMT
The Wardens got shafted hard in DAI so it's nice to see them in a more positive light again. Of course, for them that means fighting and dying in the Deep Roads. One presumes this means no cure has been found for the Taint, but I think that's best. It would take away such a big part of what makes them so tragic as heroes.
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Post by theascendent on Dec 6, 2020 19:55:37 GMT
I wonder if this highlights specific areas we will be seeing in the game. Arlathan Forest, Minrathous, Antiva City and the Deep Roads. Not a bad combination.
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Post by colfoley on Dec 6, 2020 20:10:08 GMT
I was wrong but its more interesting in a way, Evka was from TVN, not the bts. Lol i didn't realize that Viago basically chloroformed Illario.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2020 19:16:12 GMT
I saw this too! Family maybe. *shrugs*
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Post by Absafraginlootly on Dec 7, 2020 22:50:02 GMT
Tarquin was one of the cops ... I mean, Templars from Streets of Minrathous, unless I’m remembering incorrectly. The Templars in Streets of Minrathous are Knight Captain Rana Savas Knight Captain Jahvis & Brom I ran a word search on the name Tarquin in my digital copy of Tevinter Nights and it doesn't appear.
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Post by colfoley on Dec 7, 2020 23:48:20 GMT
So speaking about Shadows of Minrauthous I believe...lol this is rather complicated isn't it?...that i had it wrong. Listening to Jackdaw listening to it I think I had who the Venatori was mixed up. Which creates a whole different 'shit' reaction in its own way but makes things more interesting. It seems like its another hint about an order that is actually trying to redeam Tevinter 'we are the Tevinter you forgot' said to a magister strongly applied to be a Venatori...
Plus now that I think about it we do have what lucannis was up to in the Wigmaker...someone had to pay him. *shrugs*
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Post by necrowaif on Dec 8, 2020 5:08:48 GMT
Tarquin was one of the cops ... I mean, Templars from Streets of Minrathous, unless I’m remembering incorrectly. The Templars in Streets of Minrathous are Knight Captain Rana Savas Knight Captain Jahvis & Brom I ran a word search on the name Tarquin in my digital copy of Tevinter Nights and it doesn't appear. Yeah, I guess I misremembered.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2020 22:06:23 GMT
I realized yesterday that Tarquin was also the name of a character in Divinity Original Sin 2 and that's why the name sounded so familiar to me.
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Post by Buckeldemon on Dec 8, 2020 22:53:32 GMT
I realized yesterday that Tarquin was also the name of a character in Divinity Original Sin 2 and that's why the name sounded so familiar to me. Perhaps the author did a run of ME3 before thinking of names... Tarquin Victus. Second association in terms of pronounciation would be Wilhuff "Evacuate? In our moment of triumph?" Tarkin.
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Post by Heimdall on Dec 8, 2020 22:54:54 GMT
At this point I think it likely that Crow Lady and possibly Lucanis are companions I think. The former’s prominence in the art and consistent design makes me feel fairly sure. The latter’s supposed death makes me think they’re setting up a plot point, maybe he’s the undead looking one?
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Post by Little Bengel on Dec 8, 2020 23:39:48 GMT
At this point I think it likely that Crow Lady and possibly Lucanis are companions I think. The former’s prominence in the art and consistent design makes me feel fairly sure. The latter’s supposed death makes me think they’re setting up a plot point, maybe he’s the undead looking one? I have to admit, I'd much rather have the undead companion be a mage. I'm not opposed to having a major questline with Lucanis as a central character, but I don't exactly see him as companion material, and Crow Lady is more likely to be the DA4 party's Crow rep.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 9, 2020 0:26:22 GMT
At this point I think it likely that Crow Lady and possibly Lucanis are companions I think. The former’s prominence in the art and consistent design makes me feel fairly sure. The latter’s supposed death makes me think they’re setting up a plot point, maybe he’s the undead looking one? I don’t think they’d have two companions be Antivan Crows. We’ve never had two companions of the same background in the same game.
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Post by gervaise21 on Dec 9, 2020 8:51:15 GMT
nother hint about an order that is actually trying to redeam Tevinter 'we are the Tevinter you forgot' said to a magister strongly applied to be a Venatori... We already had one faction trying to redeem Tevinter, the Lucerni. So either Dorian/Maevaris had enlarged the scope of this to include Soporati or this is a different group entirely. Plus now that I think about it we do have what lucannis was up to in the Wigmaker...someone had to pay him I agree it may well have been this group who was sponsoring him, particularly if they are Soporati working against the Venatori and so do not have access to the Siccari, who are linked to the State and thus the Archon/Magisterium. However, we do know from Magekiller that the Archon was using outsiders to do his dirty work for him because he didn't want to use his usual forces in order to distance himself from the enterprise and was doing so out of self preservation rather than any noble sentiments about redeeming Tevinter. So any leading Magister opposed to the Venatori could have been behind Lucanis, including Dorian/Maevaris or even the Archon. What points to a more clandestine underworld sponsor was the elf in red, Athima, who assisted them as part of the deal. The red coat naturally makes you think of the Jennies, who may have extended their operations that far north and whilst not having the money to employ Lucanis, may have been working with those that did. Bottom line is, given how corrupt the Venatori are, there are several people who could want them out of the way but for different reasons. I don’t think they’d have two companions be Antivan Crows. We’ve never had two companions of the same background in the same game. Well, of course, technically Lucanis may no longer be a Crow if he has faked his own death to break his ties with them. That might even create complications in the team if the Crow lady recognised him. It is also possible that this time round we may have companion choices that are mutually exclusive through aligning yourself with a particular faction. So opt for a Crow alliance and you get the Crow lady, opt for the Forgotten Tevinter group and you get Tarquin or the Viper, opt for the Freedom Fighters and you get Lucanis. (In TN Illario objects that the Crows are not freedom fighters, which Lucanis knows is true but clearly would seem to have leanings in that direction which could have prompted his decision to leave them)
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Post by Sifr on Dec 9, 2020 14:02:57 GMT
I noticed there's also a better quality image of this Deep Roads concept art on Dragon Age's site.
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Post by Solas on Dec 9, 2020 15:02:54 GMT
"We are the Tevinter you forgot" makes me think less of Dorian and Maevaris' campaign to redeem Tevinter and more of like.. well a bit of a slave uprising feel and most of all like a ''Tevinter mundanes seeking to overthrow the magocracy" feel. It's not as simple as that as there are lowborn mages and enslaved mages (Calpernia is an example), but in a society dominated by a magocracy and where power is really important, and where said power is inevitably linked to magical ability, non-mages are 'left behind' or 'forgotten'. It could also be an Old God cultist thing maybe, Old God worship has been left behind/largely forgotten in favor of the Tevinter Chantry, although that kinda faction would be Venatori-adjacent. Questions, questions.
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Post by necrowaif on Dec 9, 2020 16:03:31 GMT
Tarquin is also the name of Elan’s dad from Order of the Stick. Notably, the only villain I have ever seen defeated via a deliberate anticlimax.
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Post by Hrungr on Dec 9, 2020 17:15:21 GMT
Tarquin is also the name of Elan’s dad from Order of the Stick. Notably, the only villain I have ever seen defeated via a deliberate anticlimax. That's where I know the name from! (it was bugging me)
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