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Post by gervaise21 on Dec 30, 2020 9:36:36 GMT
That's the vallaslin of Dirthamen isn't it? If he is one of the threats that might explain why specifically we discovered his temple in DAI. That would most likely make the other figure Andruil then as that is closest to the headpiece shown.: Still it doesn't rule out Ghilan'nain being involved, as she is always closely associated with Andruil, or Falon'Din who is always twinned with Dirthamen. The crystal halla statue would seem to suggest that Ghilan'nain is going to play some part. If she was also responsible for the strange transformation pools, that seems even more likely. I also wonder if the thing that was discovered in the depths by Solas and his followers was those pools. Could it be that which Mythal objected to and so was killed? Also, there does seem a strong possibility that the Grand Necropolis is going to be involved in events and Falon'Din was the god of the dead. Possible link there?
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Post by Absafraginlootly on Dec 30, 2020 9:40:55 GMT
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Post by gervaise21 on Dec 30, 2020 9:53:42 GMT
I think this may also have been mentioned elsewhere but another possibility for them being shown is their connection to the figures below. So Andruil was responsible for bringing the taint back from the Void, possibly her armour of the Void was created from red lyrium, so that would be her connection with Meredith. Meanwhile, Dirthamen, god of secrets, did indeed also go by the name of Dumat, god of silence (he is often depicted with his hands over his mouth which could equate to both secrets and silence). So it was he who whispered to Corypheus, getting him to mount the expedition to the Black City. The Arch-demon that was slain on the Silent Plains could just have been his split soul partner left behind when he was shut away by Solas. Hence Corypheus discovering the secret of effective immortality is achieved by splitting your soul with a dragon.
Incidentally, it has been suggested before that the dragons may not have been imprisoned but simply hibernating (in Uthenera?) awaiting the return of the gods. Then the darkspawn, or as I have suggested elsewhere, the high priest of the relevant Old God, awakes them. When a Grey Warden kills them, the soul is not destroyed as they believe, but returns to its counterpart in the Void (or wherever they are imprisoned). Hence Mythal wanting to capture it, to weaken them and increase her own power or possibly genuinely to save them because the soul is less corrupted than the original, so if the others are destroyed, it can be used to restore them to what they once were.
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Post by LadyofNemesis on Dec 30, 2020 12:30:48 GMT
I think this may also have been mentioned elsewhere but another possibility for them being shown is their connection to the figures below. So Andruil was responsible for bringing the taint back from the Void, possibly her armour of the Void was created from red lyrium, so that would be her connection with Meredith. Meanwhile, Dirthamen, god of secrets, did indeed also go by the name of Dumat, god of silence (he is often depicted with his hands over his mouth which could equate to both secrets and silence). So it was he who whispered to Corypheus, getting him to mount the expedition to the Black City. The Arch-demon that was slain on the Silent Plains could just have been his split soul partner left behind when he was shut away by Solas. Hence Corypheus discovering the secret of effective immortality is achieved by splitting your soul with a dragon. Incidentally, it has been suggested before that the dragons may not have been imprisoned but simply hibernating (in Uthenera?) awaiting the return of the gods. Then the darkspawn, or as I have suggested elsewhere, the high priest of the relevant Old God, awakes them. When a Grey Warden kills them, the soul is not destroyed as they believe, but returns to its counterpart in the Void (or wherever they are imprisoned). Hence Mythal wanting to capture it, to weaken them and increase her own power or possibly genuinely to save them because the soul is less corrupted than the original, so if the others are destroyed, it can be used to restore them to what they once were. isn't that part of the plot from the comic the Silent Grove?
with Yavana (one of Flemeth's daughters) being tasked to revive the dragons by her mother (possibly Mythal if we care to split hairs) with the blood of someone from the line of Callenhad. 'course we know Alistair refused to do so and killed her...but I wonder if there are other groves like this one with a similar purpose.
an interesting line she says to Alistair as well "Your heart beats with the old blood, as well. Where do you think it comes from? It sings of a time when dragons ruled the skies. A time before the Veil, before the mysteries were forgotten. Can you hear it?"
it was never really explored upon afterwards, I wonder if it'll have any significance now
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Post by gervaise21 on Dec 30, 2020 13:24:01 GMT
"Your heart beats with the old blood, as well. Where do you think it comes from? It sings of a time when dragons ruled the skies. A time before the Veil, before the mysteries were forgotten. Can you hear it?" The interesting thing about this speech is that it was the first occasion when it was intimated that there had been a pre-Veil world, which seemed to contradict what Andraste appeared to have been told by the Maker. It also specifically says that "the mysteries were forgotten". I do wonder if it wasn't a case of people simply forgetting but that the Veil actually caused some sort of amnesia in all the races. After all, Solas likens their state to being tranquil and we know that they seem to only vaguely remember their former life/self. "A time when dragons ruled the skies" whether these were actual dragons or dragon gods would also explain the dwarven fear of the surface and this would seem to be because of dragons. Of course, before the Veil, the sky is equated with the Fade, so did the dragons rule the actual skies, the Fade or both?
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Post by ellehaym on Dec 30, 2020 13:55:26 GMT
I wonder if the upside down crescent mood symbol are related? One of the figures in the mural has it. Its also the Heraldry of Drakes Fall. This location was also said to contain skeleton of primordial dragons similar to the OGs, though how would they know this if it predates the 1st Blight so would never see a OG bones. Darkspawn in DA:O would also redecorate statues and seen praying to them
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Post by fairdragon on Dec 30, 2020 19:38:56 GMT
Consider also that it was the Old Gods that taught humanity its magic and encouraged them to destroy Arlathan -- why would elven gods do this? One could point to the Forgotten Ones (look at the codex entry on Fen'Harel for their mention) and suggest that they had reason for vengeance, though that would probably be against Fen'Harel and their good brethren and not against the elven people themselves, no? Interesting that he suggests the Forgotten Ones would regard the Creators as their brethren but not the elven people. Of course when he said this we didn't know that neither of these groups were actually gods as distinct from very powerful elven mages. Did either set of gods know it was Fen'Harel alone who was responsible for their imprisonment? In fact surely he would have required some assistance, even if it was only to keep them distracted whilst he put his plan into motion. We also now know that the city in Arlathan Forest was likely dedicated to Andruil and that area was her domain. So if the Forgotten Ones had been at war with Andruil, it seems perfectly likely they would have wanted to avenge themselves on her people. However, as I set out above, initially the Old Gods were promoting the rise of their human worshipers rather than specifically targeting the elves, particularly if their aim was to ultimate set themselves free from their prisons. Also if Gelduran was one of the Forgotten Ones as suggested by the codex about him, he clearly had intention of revenge. I am Gelduran and I refuse those who would exert their will upon me. Let Andruil’s bow crack, let June’s fire grow cold. Let them build temples and lure the faithful with promises. Their pride will consume them, and I forgotten, will claim power of my own, apart from them until I strike in mastery.That suggests to me that Gelduran would be only too willing to avenge himself on the worshipers of the Creators and wouldn't be too fussy about who he acquired for himself so long as they did what he wanted them to. I feel there has to be some connection with the powerful entities of pre-Veil times. Whilst Solas seems to deny a link, he has a tendency to play with words. He said there is nothing in lore to connect his people and the Old Gods but that would be true because naturally human records do not have them and the Chantry lore doesn't mention the elves at all. I certainly believe he knows exactly what the Old Gods are but clearly he chose not to reveal it, even though he could easily have claimed he acquired his knowledge from spirits of the Fade. That also points to a link between them and the ancient elves and that they are connected to his plans in some way. I think on a banter between Solas and Dorian. Where Solas told Dorian all what he knows as Tevinter is exactly elven. I don't know the exact words, but i find it interessting. If the elve forgot there first faith leader (forgotten ones[hint hint]), i think they would take other who believe in them and taught them their knowledge.
They are in war with the elven gods, but the question is with how many. We know that Solas wasn't their enemy, but why he not????? If they are the forgotten ones they want break free or want somebody to get punished. Solas imprisoned both, but each group in a different place. So where are they???? to many questions.
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Post by fairdragon on Dec 30, 2020 19:44:25 GMT
Were you hoping they would just loan the concept of Antiva out to a different franchise? Or that they would wait another 10 years to put it in DA5, a game you would still hate anyway for not keeping the Inquisitor? Hoping for it being in a different game, one where they could focus on it more rather than being part of the half dozen that seem to be in this one thus not fully utilized. Also wouldn’t hate that game for not having Inky since the plot wouldn’t be about stopping Solas like DA4 is. Maybe DA5 get a focus on it. DA4 focus is definitely tevinter. But because they integrate factions, they make a DAI. But ferelden was focus in DAO not in DAI (even it doesn't look like it). I wish for you you get positive surprised by DA4.
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Post by fairdragon on Dec 30, 2020 19:57:25 GMT
That's the vallaslin of Dirthamen isn't it? If he is one of the threats that might explain why specifically we discovered his temple in DAI. Yes it is!!!! That would most likely make the other figure Andruil then as that is closest to the headpiece shown.: Still it doesn't rule out Ghilan'nain being involved, as she is always closely associated with Andruil, or Falon'Din who is always twinned with Dirthamen. The crystal halla statue would seem to suggest that Ghilan'nain is going to play some part. If she was also responsible for the strange transformation pools, that seems even more likely. I don't see any vallaslin fit with the second figure, but Varric said seeing friends lose life and limb. I ask my self, what do he speak about: 1. It could be a lose of a normal soldier(but this isn't in game this is for us.) 2. It could be a certain worldstate. 3. which elven god stands for the death and accompanies the souls on their way. (falon'din)
Yes, i may be too narrow-minded in my theory, but for me they are falon'din and Dirthamen. Fight me for it .
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Post by fairdragon on Dec 30, 2020 20:08:47 GMT
I think this may also have been mentioned elsewhere but another possibility for them being shown is their connection to the figures below. So Andruil was responsible for bringing the taint back from the Void, possibly her armour of the Void was created from red lyrium, so that would be her connection with Meredith. Meanwhile, Dirthamen, god of secrets, did indeed also go by the name of Dumat, god of silence (he is often depicted with his hands over his mouth which could equate to both secrets and silence). So it was he who whispered to Corypheus, getting him to mount the expedition to the Black City. The Arch-demon that was slain on the Silent Plains could just have been his split soul partner left behind when he was shut away by Solas. Hence Corypheus discovering the secret of effective immortality is achieved by splitting your soul with a dragon. Incidentally, it has been suggested before that the dragons may not have been imprisoned but simply hibernating (in Uthenera?) awaiting the return of the gods. Then the darkspawn, or as I have suggested elsewhere, the high priest of the relevant Old God, awakes them. When a Grey Warden kills them, the soul is not destroyed as they believe, but returns to its counterpart in the Void (or wherever they are imprisoned). Hence Mythal wanting to capture it, to weaken them and increase her own power or possibly genuinely to save them because the soul is less corrupted than the original, so if the others are destroyed, it can be used to restore them to what they once were. isn't that part of the plot from the comic the Silent Grove?
with Yavana (one of Flemeth's daughters) being tasked to revive the dragons by her mother (possibly Mythal if we care to split hairs) with the blood of someone from the line of Callenhad. 'course we know Alistair refused to do so and killed her...but I wonder if there are other groves like this one with a similar purpose.
an interesting line she says to Alistair as well "Your heart beats with the old blood, as well. Where do you think it comes from? It sings of a time when dragons ruled the skies. A time before the Veil, before the mysteries were forgotten. Can you hear it?"
it was never really explored upon afterwards, I wonder if it'll have any significance now
The things she said fits what I believe.
old blood - blight dragon = old gods. forgotten - forgotten ones.
So all elven mages are shapeshifter, but only the forgotten dragons ruled the skies (majority??). = Only the forgotten ones shapeshift into dragon as mythal does. = Mythal a forgotten one as well. = Mythal is the 8th old god.
I know than the double blight make no sence, but there are so many pieces i can't bring them all together. i am confused.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 31, 2020 1:36:02 GMT
Hoping for it being in a different game, one where they could focus on it more rather than being part of the half dozen that seem to be in this one thus not fully utilized. Also wouldn’t hate that game for not having Inky since the plot wouldn’t be about stopping Solas like DA4 is. Maybe DA5 get a focus on it. DA4 focus is definitely tevinter. But because they integrate factions, they make a DAI. But ferelden was focus in DAO not in DAI (even it doesn't look like it). I wish for you you get positive surprised by DA4. I doubt it. With it being in the promotional material it seems this game will be the one that “focuses” on it. That being one map and then writing it off the list like they did with Kirkwall and the Free Marches. As for the focus of DA4, as I said it seems they are doing far too many nations at once for most of any to be given proper attention. I wish so too. I can’t think of how DA4 could be made any worse. Well I can, but that kind of stuff is far away.
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Post by gervaise21 on Dec 31, 2020 9:13:04 GMT
As for the focus of DA4, as I said it seems they are doing far too many nations at once for most of any to be given proper attention. I have to admit that I share Hanako's trepidation about doing the various locations justice, particularly as there seems a strong likelihood they are going to include Tevinter, Antiva, Nevarra (the Grand Netropolis), Arlathan Forest and Weishauppt, with the Deep Roads and possible Kal'Sharok as well. I remember when they first revealed that DAI would stretch over from Ferelden to include Orlais, everyone was excited. Then we got some concept art for Orlais and it looked really promising. Except it turned out that small section of Val Royeaux was the only part of the capital city we visited and none of the iconic landmarks were included. Now admittedly we don't have that problem with Antiva City because it is just generally said to be beautiful, without any specific buildings, although as I've said previously you would think that if that castle had always had magic encircling it someone would have mentioned it. So the concept art does look lovely but if we don't end up visiting more than a small part of the city and the fairy tale castle remains just an attractive backdrop, then it will be disappointing. However, I would be even more disappointed if we go to Tevinter and then only see a small part of Minrathous. We have been given a lot of detail about that city both in game and in books, so it does need to be the main hub of the game, with multiple districts, each with their own architecture, ambiance and sub-plots. What worries me is that if all those earlier city shots were primarily of Antiva City, then it would seem there have been only one or two that could possibly be Minrathous. I'm hoping this is because they want to keep the rest for later or even to surprise us in game. I'm dreading that it is because Minrathous is going to be treated like Val Royeaux and we will just get one, maybe two, districts and none of the iconic landmarks we have been told about.
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Post by fairdragon on Dec 31, 2020 9:27:46 GMT
Maybe DA5 get a focus on it. DA4 focus is definitely tevinter. But because they integrate factions, they make a DAI. But ferelden was focus in DAO not in DAI (even it doesn't look like it). I wish for you you get positive surprised by DA4. I doubt it. With it being in the promotional material it seems this game will be the one that “focuses” on it. That being one map and then writing it off the list like they did with Kirkwall and the Free Marches. As for the focus of DA4, as I said it seems they are doing far too many nations at once for most of any to be given proper attention. I wish so too. I can’t think of how DA4 could be made any worse. Well I can, but that kind of stuff is far away. But if they do, then they have to expand the map of thedas. because then there are hardly any countries that are considered as new focus.
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Post by fairdragon on Dec 31, 2020 9:48:38 GMT
As for the focus of DA4, as I said it seems they are doing far too many nations at once for most of any to be given proper attention. I have to admit that I share Hanako's trepidation about doing the various locations justice, particularly as there seems a strong likelihood they are going to include Tevinter, Antiva, Nevarra (the Grand Netropolis), Arlathan Forest and Weishauppt, with the Deep Roads and possible Kal'Sharok as well. I remember when they first revealed that DAI would stretch over from Ferelden to include Orlais, everyone was excited. Then we got some concept art for Orlais and it looked really promising. Except it turned out that small section of Val Royeaux was the only part of the capital city we visited and none of the iconic landmarks were included. Now admittedly we don't have that problem with Antiva City because it is just generally said to be beautiful, without any specific buildings, although as I've said previously you would think that if that castle had always had magic encircling it someone would have mentioned it. So the concept art does look lovely but if we don't end up visiting more than a small part of the city and the fairy tale castle remains just an attractive backdrop, then it will be disappointing. However, I would be even more disappointed if we go to Tevinter and then only see a small part of Minrathous. We have been given a lot of detail about that city both in game and in books, so it does need to be the main hub of the game, with multiple districts, each with their own architecture, ambiance and sub-plots. What worries me is that if all those earlier city shots were primarily of Antiva City, then it would seem there have been only one or two that could possibly be Minrathous. I'm hoping this is because they want to keep the rest for later or even to surprise us in game. I'm dreading that it is because Minrathous is going to be treated like Val Royeaux and we will just get one, maybe two, districts and none of the iconic landmarks we have been told about. I think you look from the wrong angle. I don't think Orlais and strictly speaking Val Royeaux was at it was because of Ferelden including in the game. It was like that because of the feed back the players give on DA2.
DAI haven't more locations than DAO and i think they had put there time instead of Val Royeaux in the hinterlands. The reason for that is maybe the last change for something like open world (a guess from me). I would found it intressting what they have planed before that. The dev. have time and they must divide this time well. In DAO i think that was good. DA2 was 90 % Kirkwall (boring all the same look). DAI was better more different places but the hinterlands map was to big. I think they can do it, but that is a thing of organization. And that is a think what bioware has lost seeing how MEA and anthem were developed.
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Post by gervaise21 on Dec 31, 2020 10:32:42 GMT
DA2 was 90 % Kirkwall (boring all the same look). I've mentioned previously that Bioware know how to do a big city well from their treatment of Baldurs Gate in the first game of that name and particularly Athkatla in Baldurs Gate 2. There they had multiple areas and each looked different, had its own architecture, plots and even background music, in the case of the market district. We also had proper day/night cycles. From that major hub we went to other areas that were equally interesting, including wilderness areas, smaller towns, temple ruins, a noble's stronghold with surrounding area and the Underdark (the equivalent of the Deep Roads). Kirkwall suffered from the extremely short development period and constant reuse of maps which resulted from this, just giving them different names. If the Devs couldn't see that was the reason people objected to the city location rather than the fact of being based in a city as against wandering around vast maps of wilderness with repetitive encounters with bandits and beasties, they must be rather stupid. So instead imagine a city the size of the Hinterlands with varied architecture and inhabitants and that gives the sense of what I am suggesting.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 31, 2020 10:57:49 GMT
I doubt it. With it being in the promotional material it seems this game will be the one that “focuses” on it. That being one map and then writing it off the list like they did with Kirkwall and the Free Marches. As for the focus of DA4, as I said it seems they are doing far too many nations at once for most of any to be given proper attention. I wish so too. I can’t think of how DA4 could be made any worse. Well I can, but that kind of stuff is far away. But if they do, then they have to expand the map of thedas. because then there are hardly any countries that are considered as new focus. With them setting things up like the Executors, I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s what they do and future games if they happen will go beyond the continent.
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Post by telanadas on Dec 31, 2020 14:40:31 GMT
So all elven mages are shapeshifter, but only the forgotten dragons ruled the skies (majority??). = Only the forgotten ones shapeshift into dragon as mythal does. = Mythal a forgotten one as well. = Mythal is the 8th old god. The weird thing I find about the old gods is that they are all seemingly related to the evanuris, with their characteristics and constellations. Dragons were also supposed to be the evanuris' divine form and it's insinuated through codices that they practiced blood magic. So if the evanuris are related to the old gods it would make things make a lot more sense. If Mythal is the eighth old god it seems to suggest she was also able to roam the fade once, or that she was imprisoned like the rest of the evanuris. Maybe she was stricken from the pantheon after her death, so people couldn't worship her into being again. Her killers did trash her temple after all, and it was in the Arbor wilds in the middle of nowhere so maybe her temple was moved there, magically. But then Flemeth says a wisp of Mythal came to her, and we know from Solas that when spirits die they reform as wisps in the void. So, it makes me wonder if Mythal's death actually worked in her favour because she was able to nudge history through Flemeth. Even though her killers tried to remove the idea of divinity from her, the idea of her was so strong she manifested again regardless. Meanwhile, the evanuris had no choice but to stay imprisoned within the fade because they could not die and reform again.
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Post by telanadas on Dec 31, 2020 14:57:23 GMT
So instead imagine a city the size of the Hinterlands with varied architecture and inhabitants and that gives the sense of what I am suggesting. Exactly, this is honestly what I am also expecting of Minrathous, a massive densely packed city separated into zones. Fantasy cyberpunk is something we've never really seen on a large scale in games and I think it would be such a cool opportunity for Bioware to do something ground breaking and different to what we usually see when talking about elves, dwarves etc. We've toured Ferelden and people like Dorian have commented on how backwards it all is in the south. Now I am expecting the grandness and excess as has been described of the north, where magic fuels everything. To do anything less and cheapen it to something akin to Val Royeaux would be such a waste of the worldbuilding and lore they have already established...in my humble opinion.
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Post by fairdragon on Jan 9, 2021 17:45:09 GMT
I noticed something: Varric:"A person they'll never see coming." What did he mean? who is not allowed to see us? They means more than one, so Who are they?
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Post by gervaise21 on Jan 9, 2021 18:48:07 GMT
Varric:"A person they'll never see coming." What did he mean? Well I suppose he could mean the "demons, dragons, darkspawn and even the Dread Wolf" will never see us coming, although the only one we specifically need to stay under the radar from is Solas. After all, demons can read our minds so no secrecy there, dragons in the past were never that bothered who we were and the darkspawn could only really sense us if we were Wardens. So if it did refer to the 3Ds as well as Solas then it was just a bit of empty rhetoric on Varric's part. However, there are other people that we may cross swords with. There are the remaining Venatori; the Antaam; the Executors (if they are not allies); the Take back Tevinter group and other possible factions yet to be revealed. If these groups turn out to be threats then it may be helpful to be a complete unknown as the first three would certainly be aware of the Inquisitor and it was the need for anonymity that ruled out their active participation going forward but I have to admit that was related to Solas, so I think it was just talking up our new hero on Varric's part.
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Post by Little Bengel on Jan 9, 2021 19:05:25 GMT
It could also be a general "they" rather than some hidden significance. These are also a thing, y'know fairdragon
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Post by Hrungr on Jan 9, 2021 20:18:48 GMT
So instead imagine a city the size of the Hinterlands with varied architecture and inhabitants and that gives the sense of what I am suggesting. Exactly, this is honestly what I am also expecting of Minrathous, a massive densely packed city separated into zones. Fantasy cyberpunk is something we've never really seen on a large scale in games and I think it would be such a cool opportunity for Bioware to do something ground breaking and different to what we usually see when talking about elves, dwarves etc. We've toured Ferelden and people like Dorian have commented on how backwards it all is in the south. Now I am expecting the grandness and excess as has been described of the north, where magic fuels everything. To do anything less and cheapen it to something akin to Val Royeaux would be such a waste of the worldbuilding and lore they have already established...in my humble opinion. This is largely what I expect as well. Minrathous in particular is just too big to do in its entirely, so I expect we'll be able to visit key districts, and hopefully they'll be large enough to get a good feel for them. And I would expect the same with Antiva City. The Grand Necropolis is located outside the city, so they may only have to build that. It's almost the size of a city itself though, but built on many, many levels. We'll likely only see a small number of them. Will we actually get to see Kal Sharok? Hard to say. As it's been pointed out numerous times, this is quite a lot already...
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Post by midnight tea on Jan 9, 2021 21:04:43 GMT
Exactly, this is honestly what I am also expecting of Minrathous, a massive densely packed city separated into zones. Fantasy cyberpunk is something we've never really seen on a large scale in games and I think it would be such a cool opportunity for Bioware to do something ground breaking and different to what we usually see when talking about elves, dwarves etc. We've toured Ferelden and people like Dorian have commented on how backwards it all is in the south. Now I am expecting the grandness and excess as has been described of the north, where magic fuels everything. To do anything less and cheapen it to something akin to Val Royeaux would be such a waste of the worldbuilding and lore they have already established...in my humble opinion. This is largely what I expect as well. Minrathous in particular is just too big to do in its entirely, so I expect we'll be able to visit key districts, and hopefully they'll be large enough to get a good feel for them. And I would expect the same with Antiva City. The Grand Necropolis is located outside the city, so they may only have to build that. It's almost the size of a city itself though, but built on many, many levels. We'll likely only see a small number of them. Will we actually get to see Kal Sharok? Hard to say. As it's been pointed out numerous times, this is quite a lot already... Some of those locations will likely end up as DLC or live-serviced stream of content, no different than Frostback Basin in JOH or Deep Roads in Descent for DAI.
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Post by eternalambiguity on Jan 9, 2021 21:58:14 GMT
I noticed something: Varric:"A person they'll never see coming." What did he mean? who is not allowed to see us? They means more than one, so Who are they? "They" is also used as a gender neutral singular term.
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Post by pessimistpanda on Jan 10, 2021 2:52:27 GMT
I suspect "they" in the context of the trailer, if it refers to anything at all, refers to basically everyone in the world of Thedas.
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