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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jan 13, 2021 15:50:08 GMT
Indestructible bones by itself absolutely does qualify as superhuman, since it is beyond normal human capabilities. Regarding the Widow, humans didn’t create it. The lore says it is Geth in origin, as Legion is known to use it (and is the only companion in ME2 that can). The Black Widow was made by humans, as a scaled down version. Then how does Shepard's skeletal structure disintegrates in the Blue and Green if it's indestructible? Torn apart at the submolecular level.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Jan 13, 2021 15:54:13 GMT
Then how does Shepard's skeletal structure disintegrates in the Blue and Green if it's indestructible? Torn apart at the submolecular level. Indestructible adj. not able to be destroyed. So....?
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Post by Pounce de León on Jan 13, 2021 15:57:14 GMT
Why not let Shepard be construct on biochip and we go chippin' in?
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Post by Little Bengel on Jan 13, 2021 16:30:28 GMT
Torn apart at the submolecular level. Indestructible adj. not able to be destroyed. So....? The level of pedantry I'm seeing here is absolutely lul-worthy. Only on the BSN do I get to see this.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Jan 13, 2021 16:37:12 GMT
Indestructible adj. not able to be destroyed. So....? The level of pedantry I'm seeing here is absolutely lul-worthy. Only on the BSN do I get to see this. I am pointing out that indestructible doesn't equal unbreakable. But if you don't like it, then tough.
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Post by feuerrabe on Jan 13, 2021 16:37:54 GMT
Then maybe the combat system should backup what the lore says then, otherwise you'll get conflicting information from the game. I don't see the point: You biggest problem seemed to be the movement via thrusters, which is perfectly in line with the lore. You could easily get away with all out flight, Superman style, using mass effect fields as explanation, it just wouldn't make good gameplay.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Jan 13, 2021 16:39:35 GMT
Torn apart at the submolecular level. You do understand, then, that if it were so, the entire Crucible would have torn itself apart. Nothing would be able to contain the green glow, it would have, effectively, eaten its way out and flooded the ... everything. The more of it that would be generated, the more it would eat away at things. If no more of it is being produced, whatever it was that caused that light would simply eat a hole in the hull of the crucible and float away in space. If there is a substance that can contain it, let's call it indestructium, and Shepard is indestructible, then it is safe to say that yes, Shepard is made of it.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Jan 13, 2021 16:43:01 GMT
Then maybe the combat system should backup what the lore says then, otherwise you'll get conflicting information from the game. I don't see the point: You biggest problem seemed to be the movement via thrusters, which is perfectly in line with the lore. You could easily get away with all out flight, Superman style, using mass effect fields as explanation, it just wouldn't make good gameplay. Are you talking about MEA or Shepard being a "supersoldier"? Because I never said anything about thrusters or mass effect fields. Only about how Shepard doesn't show any abilities that mark's them out as being a supersoldier. A cyborg yes, but not a supersoldier.
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Post by ahglock on Jan 13, 2021 16:44:25 GMT
I actually thought by then SAM was pretty much back. Like wasn't that the entire point of the twin getting to SAMs console and hitting the button. I always thought he was there enough after that which is why Ryder stopped dying. So like the programming power was there, just not the voice. Must've forgotten that. I don't have the game, but I've watched some playthroughs a long while back. I'll do it again after I've completed my current trilogy playthrough, since I want to do a review-lite post for each game here. It is not super clear either when you play through it, like I don't think you get Sams voice back until you arrive on Meridean. But Sam gets removed from Ryder1 via the bad guy, Sam begins talking to Ryder2 on the station and explains what is going on that without SAM Ryder1 will die. Ryder1 is twitching on the floor doing nothing. Ryder2 fights through the station to SAMS console hits a button and then it cut scenes back to Ryder1 who can stand but is jacked up and not fully in control.
They never explain it, but my take on it was SAM was basically back but focusing on repairs to get RYDER1 alive again, but its consciousness was stuck with RYDER2 though its processing power was available to RYDER1. But since they never explain it I think almost anything can be interpreted from the scenes.
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Post by Pounce de León on Jan 13, 2021 16:44:25 GMT
Torn apart at the submolecular level. You do understand, then, that if it were so, the entire Crucible would have torn itself apart. Nothing would be able to contain the green glow, it would have, effectively, eaten its way out and flooded the ... everything. The more of it that would be generated, the more it would eat away at things. If no more of it is being produced, whatever it was that caused that light would simply eat a hole in the hull of the crucible and float away in space. If there is a substance that can contain it, let's call it indestructium, and Shepard is indestructible, then it is safe to say that yes, Shepard is made of it. Attack by the Asari Commando Squad. Just imagine. It quite weakens my integrity just thinking about it. It certainly must have had an effect on Shepard.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Jan 13, 2021 16:46:07 GMT
Torn apart at the submolecular level. You do understand, then, that if it were so, the entire Crucible would have torn itself apart. Nothing would be able to contain the green glow, it would have, effectively, eaten its way out and flooded the ... everything. The more of it that would be generated, the more it would eat away at things. If no more of it is being produced, whatever it was that caused that light would simply eat a hole in the hull of the crucible and float away in space. If there is a substance that can contain it, let's call it indestructium, and Shepard is indestructible, then it is safe to say that yes, Shepard is made of it. 👆 This.
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Post by feuerrabe on Jan 13, 2021 16:46:44 GMT
I don't see the point: You biggest problem seemed to be the movement via thrusters, which is perfectly in line with the lore. You could easily get away with all out flight, Superman style, using mass effect fields as explanation, it just wouldn't make good gameplay. Are you talking about MEA or Shepard being a "supersoldier"? Because I never said anything about thrusters or mass effect fields. Only about how Shepard doesn't show any abilities that mark's them out as being a supersoldier. A cyborg yes, but not a supersoldier. Shepard does not have an ability to mark them as a super soldier, they simply are one. That's the first thing that Mass Effects ever points out.
THat raises the question what you meant by referring to contradictions in the lore, whilst referring to my previous post.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Jan 13, 2021 16:57:30 GMT
Are you talking about MEA or Shepard being a "supersoldier"? Because I never said anything about thrusters or mass effect fields. Only about how Shepard doesn't show any abilities that mark's them out as being a supersoldier. A cyborg yes, but not a supersoldier. Shepard does not have an ability to mark them as a super soldier, they simply are one. That's the first thing that Mass Effects ever points out. And how is Shepard simply a "supersoldier"? Because all I've seen from them is just a soldier.
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Post by feuerrabe on Jan 13, 2021 17:06:59 GMT
Shepard start out being the best special forces soldier mankind has to offer, right from the start.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Jan 13, 2021 17:07:58 GMT
The level of pedantry I'm seeing here is absolutely lul-worthy. Only on the BSN do I get to see this. I consider internal consistency to be important to the setting. I wouldn't call it "pendantry". The Crucible itself is inconsistent enough in its function as it is. Let's not make it any worse.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Jan 13, 2021 17:10:17 GMT
Shepard start out being the best special forces soldier mankind has to offer, right from the start. Err, wasn't Anderson classed as the best Spec Ops soldier the human race had?
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Post by feuerrabe on Jan 13, 2021 17:13:03 GMT
Shepard start out being the best special forces soldier mankind has to offer, right from the start. Err, wasn't Anderson classed as the best Spec Ops soldier the human race had? In his prime yes.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Jan 13, 2021 17:15:38 GMT
Err, wasn't Anderson classed as the best Spec Ops soldier the human race had? In his prime yes. So how can Shepard be the best Spec Ops soldier when Anderson has already reached that point. Hell, I highly doubt that Shepard has gotten the same amount of medals as Anderson has.
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Post by Phantom on Jan 13, 2021 17:15:39 GMT
Indestructible bones by itself absolutely does qualify as superhuman, since it is beyond normal human capabilities. Regarding the Widow, humans didn’t create it. The lore says it is Geth in origin, as Legion is known to use it (and is the only companion in ME2 that can). The Black Widow was made by humans, as a scaled down version. Then how does Shepard's skeletal structure disintegrates in the Blue and Green if it's indestructible? as much as I hate to admit it, Reaper Tech is better than Cerberus Tech. So Reaper Tech can disintegrates Cerberus Tech and any indestructible skeletons.
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Post by feuerrabe on Jan 13, 2021 17:22:53 GMT
So how can Shepard be the best Spec Ops soldier when Anderson has already reached that point. Hell, I highly doubt that Shepard has gotten the same amount of medals as Anderson has. Aside from the fact that Anderson couldn't become a Spectre anymore because of the political intrigue, he was getting too old for the job - my impression was that he was older than 35 or so, which would be an age at which it would become difficult to reach the greatest heights of physical achievement. In the game he is considerably more busy with command than as active field agent.
Being the best is something doesn't tend to last.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Jan 13, 2021 17:27:29 GMT
Then how does Shepard's skeletal structure disintegrates in the Blue and Green if it's indestructible? as much as I hate to admit it, Reaper Tech is better than Cerberus Tech. So Reaper Tech can disintegrates Cerberus Tech and any indestructible skeletons. Lol, I'm still trying to work out how this supposed "indestructible skeleton" would even exist in the lore. Cause that should be impossible given how the technological trap in Mass Effect is supposed to keep everyone on the same level.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Jan 13, 2021 17:33:47 GMT
So how can Shepard be the best Spec Ops soldier when Anderson has already reached that point. Hell, I highly doubt that Shepard has gotten the same amount of medals as Anderson has. Aside from the fact that Anderson couldn't become a Spectre anymore because of the political intrigue, he was getting too old for the job - my impression was that he was older than 35 or so, which would be an age at which it would become difficult to reach the greatest heights of physical achievement. In the game he is considerably more busy with command than as active field agent.
Being the best is something doesn't tend to last.
But in order to be classed as the best, you'd need to surpass the one before you. Unless of course no one has been classed as the best beforehand. And Shepard's round about 29 during the events of ME1, so they have alot of catching up seeing as they missed 2 years of their live in ME2's beginning.
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Post by Cyberstrike on Jan 13, 2021 17:37:14 GMT
I still think Shepards Story is over and that it would be a terrible idea to bring Shepard back in the new ME Game. But i have no problem to see some of the companions in the new ME game. Maybe as a playable Char. I would love to play as Liara or Tali
The more and more I keep hearing about people wanting to play as aliens in a ME game the less and the less I'm sure that would make the game better and I'm starting to think it might actually make the game worse.
When I think of some the weird and unintentional funny animations in some of the characters in DAI looking up at a qunari or down at a dwarf is just sometimes just weird and awkward like the others can't make their eye lines and it looks like a bad movie where the actors aren't told where to look at some special effect creatures or monsters to be added later. And some of the romances in DAI are downright laughable where the size difference between the various races make for some of the romances looking downright weird and/or stupid because of the characters' height seeing Josephine kissing a dwarf is more funny because it looks funny even when it's not supposed to be, (especially with Josie always standing on one leg in the start and completion of the romance).
Then I think of seeing that with with say a krogan, a turian, or a volus and that is something that I DON'T want to see in a ME game. I get the appeal of wanting to play as the other races but I feel unless they decide to a MMO style game (and count me out of that) I think the playing as other races should stay in the MP modes. The SP mode should focus on a single race as the player character.
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Post by Phantom on Jan 13, 2021 17:38:06 GMT
as much as I hate to admit it, Reaper Tech is better than Cerberus Tech. So Reaper Tech can disintegrates Cerberus Tech and any indestructible skeletons. Lol, I'm still trying to work out how this supposed "indestructible skeleton" would even exist in the lore. Cause that should be impossible given how the technological trap in Mass Effect is supposed to keep everyone on the same level. Well In Mass Effect, We do have Eldritch Abominations that override our sense of reality. Our definition of Indestructible is borderline meaningless compared to Reapers and their tier of Technology. Reaper can basicly say to Milk way Galaxy species to shut up and sit down. Logic doesn't apply to Eldritch Abominations in general for they no-sell Logic. Also You can write a story of the underdogs winning logically against Eldritch Abominations with or without Deus Ex Machina aka something like the Crucible without negating the nature of said Eldritch Abomination or the Lore of the Story.
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Post by traks on Jan 13, 2021 17:43:23 GMT
Must've forgotten that. I don't have the game, but I've watched some playthroughs a long while back. I'll do it again after I've completed my current trilogy playthrough, since I want to do a review-lite post for each game here. It is not super clear either when you play through it, like I don't think you get Sams voice back until you arrive on Meridean. But Sam gets removed from Ryder1 via the bad guy, Sam begins talking to Ryder2 on the station and explains what is going on that without SAM Ryder1 will die. Ryder1 is twitching on the floor doing nothing. Ryder2 fights through the station to SAMS console hits a button and then it cut scenes back to Ryder1 who can stand but is jacked up and not fully in control.
They never explain it, but my take on it was SAM was basically back but focusing on repairs to get RYDER1 alive again, but its consciousness was stuck with RYDER2 though its processing power was available to RYDER1. But since they never explain it I think almost anything can be interpreted from the scenes.
On my last playthrough I made out a difference for the first time. My powers functioned well during the last mission - of course - but the profile (infiltrator) didn't. No seeing of enemies highlighted in red when zooming... So I think, the connection to SAM is still not fully "repaired" during the final mission. Also in the epilogue it's said that Ryder technically doesn't need SAM anymore, but that SAM of course helps him/her.
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