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Post by ShadowAngel on Dec 18, 2020 7:14:30 GMT
Definitely seems they should've just cut last generation entirely to save themselves all of this trouble they put on them. I don't imagine the game selling as well but I guess it's moot when you're refunding people anyway as is. Just seems they really could've waited another half a year to be honest but I know them holiday dollars must've been hard to turn away.
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Post by saandrig on Dec 18, 2020 7:19:46 GMT
Wait, wait, hold on...
Delisting? Are you telling me they are delaying the game AFTER releasing it? 🤣 Wow. Even the Anthem disaster didn't get to such lows.
They should have just released the PC version and delayed the console for after a year. Yeah, I know their contracts forbid it, but boy, would the console owners get a nice feel what "exclusivity" is.
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Post by Voluptuous Volus on Dec 18, 2020 7:23:34 GMT
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Post by Pounce de León on Dec 18, 2020 9:40:51 GMT
I wonder if this will prompt some changes to the certification process for Sony & MS. Yeah, I wonder what's it actually good for when they still list defect products. I guess it's not worth much when it has to contend with potential holiday season sales.
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Post by azarhal on Dec 18, 2020 11:53:19 GMT
Wait, wait, hold on... Delisting? Are you telling me they are delaying the game AFTER releasing it? 🤣 Wow. Even the Anthem disaster didn't get to such lows. Sony can't do refunds without delisting, that's how their store works. People are trying to make this look "game so bad Sony had to delist it", but in reality it's "Sony is so against refunds that their store doesn't even support it".
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Post by aglomeracja on Dec 18, 2020 12:02:39 GMT
They didn't recall physical copies of the game, so it's possible that CDPR and Sony came to same arrangement to make it easier for people to get a refund.
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Post by Andrew Waples on Dec 18, 2020 13:31:22 GMT
Also, fyi: if you don't plan on refunding it, don't delete of the hard drive. It's no longer in my purchase history either. This was something I’m concerned about. I was looking into upgrading my Pro’s drive for its one final hurrah before I move on, but I guess those plans are cancelled. Edit: I still see it on my purchased list. Is this because you deleted it already? No.
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Post by Sanunes on Dec 18, 2020 13:58:14 GMT
Wait, wait, hold on... Delisting? Are you telling me they are delaying the game AFTER releasing it? 🤣 Wow. Even the Anthem disaster didn't get to such lows. Sony can't do refunds without delisting, that's how their store works. People are trying to make this look "game so bad Sony had to delist it", but in reality it's "Sony is so against refunds that their store doesn't even support it". Agreed about the Sony store, but I also think it demonstrates that a lot of people are looking for refunds at the same time. Its not "so bad that they are delisting it", but instead "they are delisting it because so many people are looking for refunds".
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Post by azarhal on Dec 18, 2020 14:38:03 GMT
Sony can't do refunds without delisting, that's how their store works. People are trying to make this look "game so bad Sony had to delist it", but in reality it's "Sony is so against refunds that their store doesn't even support it". Agreed about the Sony store, but I also think it demonstrates that a lot of people are looking for refunds at the same time. Its not "so bad that they are delisting it", but instead "they are delisting it because so many people are looking for refunds". If they were compliant with consumer laws a little everywhere on the planet, they wouldn't have to delist the game to offer refunds. The amount of people making request shouldn't matter, it's something that should always be supported. And now it seems delisting is causing problems for people who don't want it refunded.
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Post by saandrig on Dec 18, 2020 14:42:57 GMT
And now it seems delisting is causing problems for people who don't want it refunded. Problems for everyone! A perfect democracy 😜
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Post by Hrungr on Dec 18, 2020 17:39:28 GMT
Xbox Support @xboxsupportCyberpunk 2077: To ensure that every player can get the experience they expect on Xbox, we will be expanding our existing refund policy to offer full refunds to anyone who purchased Cyberpunk 2077 digitally from the Microsoft Store, until further notice. msft.it/6010pXEHjWhile we know the developers at CD PROJEKT RED have worked hard to ship Cyberpunk 2077 in extremely challenging circumstances, we also realize that some players have been unhappy with the current experience on older consoles. To date, we have granted refunds to the vast majority of customers who have requested one. To request an Xbox refund for Cyberpunk 2077, please follow the steps listed on our Xbox refund page here: msft.it/6010pXEHj
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Post by biggydx on Dec 18, 2020 19:20:01 GMT
Definitely seems they should've just cut last generation entirely to save themselves all of this trouble they put on them. I don't imagine the game selling as well but I guess it's moot when you're refunding people anyway as is. Just seems they really could've waited another half a year to be honest but I know them holiday dollars must've been hard to turn away. I would agree, but they definitely would have needed to have that be the marketing theme once gameplay was revealed in 2018. That could have afforded them maybe one additional year towards development and optimization. Still would have sucked for current gen players, as the game likely should have been optimized first for current gen platforms (plus PC). Its not like next gen upgrades couldn't have been rolled out after the fact.
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Post by Hrungr on Dec 18, 2020 19:22:37 GMT
Cyberpunk 2077 @cyberpunkgameUpdate on Retail Refunds 
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Post by slimgrin727 on Dec 18, 2020 19:26:03 GMT
Cyberpunk 2077 @cyberpunkgameUpdate on Retail Refunds  Jesus, what a disaster.
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Post by Sanunes on Dec 18, 2020 20:00:50 GMT
Xbox Support @xboxsupportCyberpunk 2077: To ensure that every player can get the experience they expect on Xbox, we will be expanding our existing refund policy to offer full refunds to anyone who purchased Cyberpunk 2077 digitally from the Microsoft Store, until further notice. msft.it/6010pXEHjWhile we know the developers at CD PROJEKT RED have worked hard to ship Cyberpunk 2077 in extremely challenging circumstances, we also realize that some players have been unhappy with the current experience on older consoles. To date, we have granted refunds to the vast majority of customers who have requested one. To request an Xbox refund for Cyberpunk 2077, please follow the steps listed on our Xbox refund page here: msft.it/6010pXEHj I do call BS on that Microsoft statement about "challenging circumstances". This problem was made by CDPR and not some outside force. They misled and lied to their consumers, yes there is a worldwide pandemic going on, but I don't see other games released in this window having the same problems on consoles.
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Post by bshep on Dec 18, 2020 21:55:46 GMT
Extremely challenging circumstances could refer to a lot of things. BEsides it is not like they would rip CDPR a new asshole in a statement about refunds. 
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Post by Sanunes on Dec 18, 2020 22:05:45 GMT
Extremely challenging circumstances could refer to a lot of things. BEsides it is not like they would rip CDPR a new asshole in a statement about refunds.  I don't want Microsoft to "rip them a new one" I just don't think trying to give CDPR an excuse works in the statement. I just think they would have been better off not making a comment like that at all so just don't put that second paragraph out there and let the first two speak for themselves without the editorialization.
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Post by cypherj on Dec 18, 2020 22:21:29 GMT
I haven't seen anything like this since Arkham Knight. I actually got a refund for that game, and it was pulled from Steam. I feel sorry for the developers because people will blame them when clearly an executive said this game is going out by this date no matter what. Make it happen.
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Post by KaiserShep on Dec 19, 2020 2:27:08 GMT
I haven't seen anything like this since Arkham Knight. I actually got a refund for that game, and it was pulled from Steam. I feel sorry for the developers because people will blame them when clearly an executive said this game is going out by this date no matter what. Make it happen. Especially since behind it all, a lot of effort and care went into the substantive side of the game. If only they were given more time for that to shine through better.
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Post by KaiserShep on Dec 19, 2020 2:28:55 GMT
Extremely challenging circumstances could refer to a lot of things. BEsides it is not like they would rip CDPR a new asshole in a statement about refunds.  I don't want Microsoft to "rip them a new one" I just don't think trying to give CDPR an excuse works in the statement. I just think they would have been better off not making a comment like that at all so just don't put that second paragraph out there and let the first two speak for themselves without the editorialization. Well, it is Microsoft. They know full well we’re gonna use all their stuff anyway, as corpos are wont to do.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 19, 2020 2:35:23 GMT
I don't want Microsoft to "rip them a new one" I just don't think trying to give CDPR an excuse works in the statement. I just think they would have been better off not making a comment like that at all so just don't put that second paragraph out there and let the first two speak for themselves without the editorialization. Well, it is Microsoft. They know full well we’re gonna use all their stuff anyway, as corpos are wont to do. Microsoft to anyone complaining about them on the Internet:
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Post by Cyberstrike on Jan 17, 2021 0:08:37 GMT
Definitely seems they should've just cut last generation entirely to save themselves all of this trouble they put on them. I don't imagine the game selling as well but I guess it's moot when you're refunding people anyway as is. Just seems they really could've waited another half a year to be honest but I know them holiday dollars must've been hard to turn away.
Given that CDPR were making the fucking game since TW3 was winding down (if not longer) and it's was originally made for PS4 and XB1, but then they dragged their feet on this turd so they could get their rabid fanbase so upset that this broken POS game so they could use the bullshit excuse that "would work better on the new consoles and new expensive PCs" that most players can't find and/or afford.
Blaming their fans for not playing it on "the correct" platform is just them and their rabid fanbase not being able to accept that they made a REALLY shitty game and as far I'm concerned it couldn't happened a better company. CDPR has produced nothing but over-hyped pieces of shit games since day one and now the chickens have come to roost.
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Post by KaiserShep on Jan 17, 2021 1:43:23 GMT
I don’t think cutting previous gen consoles out of the release would have helped as much as people think. Even on next gen it wasn’t exactly hunky-dory, and combine that with one of the worst next-gen console releases thanks to bot-wielding parasites and idiot retailers, I doubt this game would have recouped its development and promotion costs nearly as quickly, especially when accounting for the refunds (though however much those refunds is from both versions of previous gen systems I haven’t the foggiest).
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